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 Post subject: Combining two images
PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:05 pm  (#1) 
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Hey Gimpers:
I'm going to attempt to combine two images. The background is a downed airplane and in the foreground, a woman investigator. (The image of the woman is on a neutral background)

I want to avoid the “paper cutout” look.

Is the current thinking to add a Layer Mask, work around the woman with a small paintbrush and then judicious use of the Smudge Tool? Working around the woman's hair strands will be slow going. Faced with a similar problem on another project, after I had finished with the masking, I used the Clone Tool to add strands of hair where needed. Worked pretty well.

Anyway, is there a better approach to all this?

Much thanks,
Bry


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 Post subject: Re: Combining two images
PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:59 pm  (#2) 
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I think you're going about it in the proper way.
That's how I would do it.

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 Post subject: Re: Combining two images
PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:55 pm  (#3) 
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Shouldn't be a 'cut-out' look if you use the magic wand on the plain background and feather it. You can either cut it then and paste as a new layer (over your other image) or colour to alpha. Then use your eraser for in between the hair.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:47 pm  (#4) 
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Okay. Thanks Wallace, good to hear from you again. Remember the "Shorts Girl?"

And Sallyanne, thank you. Something new for me to try. There are always interesting options.

Let me fool with this and get back to you.

All best,
Bry


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 Post subject: Re: Combining two images
PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:27 pm  (#5) 
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bcripps wrote:
Okay. Thanks Wallace, good to hear from you again. Remember the "Shorts Girl?"

And Sallyanne, thank you. Something new for me to try. There are always interesting options.

Let me fool with this and get back to you.

All best,
Bry

That's cool.
Yes I remember the "shorts-girl". :hehe

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 Post subject: Re: Combining two images
PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:05 am  (#6) 
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Old habits die hard.
I usually create transparent png cut-out of the item, paste as new layer. Then adjust color, lighting, and other edits so that they match.
This is probably not the best method, just a routine developed over the years. The good thing about using layers masks is that you can keep the original untouched and do the editing over the layer mask.
But it's also handy to have a transparent png, when you have done the troublesome extraction you can use it easily with new projects.

Used levels and inner shadow on Scully.

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 Post subject: Re: Combining two images
PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:22 am  (#7) 
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I like how the inner shadow makes her look less cut out...I never thought of it, so thanks for the idea!


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 Post subject: Re: Combining two images
PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:57 pm  (#8) 
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Great ideas here and something new to try. I've been mucking with the project for a couple days and while not there yet, it was enough to get an approval from the publisher.
One other question, if I may: I've included a pix of my downed plane and have done some work on it. But in the book, the plane is pink. (Yeah, I know... a pink plane! But it is relevant to the story line.) Anyway, what's the best approach to applying a light pink wash over what I have now. Just need a hint of color and not sure if it needs to be mottled. Maybe because the plane burned? A couple of ideas would be appreciated.

And finally, I've started having a problem saving JPEG's in GIMP. I copy the photo to my desk top and it opens in Gimp. I work on the photo and when finished, click “Export As” and select JPEG from the menu and hit Export. I get the “Do you want to replace” window and hit Replace, then the “Export Image as JPEG” and hit Export. Then I get GIMP Message: “JPEG image plug-in could not save image.”

I tried saving as GIF and PNG with the same none results.

That's very frustrating after working on a photo for an hour.

And sometimes GIMP won't even open the photo to begin with while every other program I can think of, has no problem.

Is my GIMP 2.8 software corrupt?

Thanks as always...
Bry


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 Post subject: Re: Combining two images
PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:02 pm  (#9) 
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Opps... here's the plane photo.


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 Post subject: Re: Combining two images
PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:49 pm  (#10) 
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bcripps wrote:
Great ideas here and something new to try. I've been mucking with the project for a couple days and while not there yet, it was enough to get an approval from the publisher.
One other question, if I may: I've included a pix of my downed plane and have done some work on it. But in the book, the plane is pink. (Yeah, I know... a pink plane! But it is relevant to the story line.) Anyway, what's the best approach to applying a light pink wash over what I have now. Just need a hint of color and not sure if it needs to be mottled. Maybe because the plane burned? A couple of ideas would be appreciated.

And finally, I've started having a problem saving JPEG's in GIMP. I copy the photo to my desk top and it opens in Gimp. I work on the photo and when finished, click “Export As” and select JPEG from the menu and hit Export. I get the “Do you want to replace” window and hit Replace, then the “Export Image as JPEG” and hit Export. Then I get GIMP Message: “JPEG image plug-in could not save image.”

I tried saving as GIF and PNG with the same none results.

That's very frustrating after working on a photo for an hour.

And sometimes GIMP won't even open the photo to begin with while every other program I can think of, has no problem.

Is my GIMP 2.8 software corrupt?

Thanks as always...
Bry

Try exporting the image,
by typing in the file extension as .jpg instead of .jpeg.
In other words,
don't select the file extension from drop-down menu.
Type it in as .jpg instead of .jpeg,
to see if this saves the image correctly.

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