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 Post subject: The Special Apple In The Bowl (Apple Fixed) - For Griatch
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:26 pm  (#1) 
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Well, at first I tried to draw an apple tree with a a singular red apple and the rest of them grey..., but the tree looked weird and I couldn't figure out how to add the apples so... xD

I ended up drawing this!
I colored everything in color then made a second layer of the finished apples in the bowl and made desaturated and erased everything but the one apple that's red...I know it's the hard way but I can't shade in black and white very well I go crazy w/o color. :hoh

The outline was done last and I know isn't perfect but I was getting overwhelmed and I'm tired. xD

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I fixed the bowl with the help/suggestion of Merrak! Thank you! :D

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I fixed the apple with what Griatch suggested!
I must say I think this looks MUCH better! :D

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About 4 or 5 hours.

I hope you like it @ Griatch!


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 Post subject: Re: The Special Apple In The Bowel - For Griatch
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:36 pm  (#2) 
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I like the texture on the bowl!

But it looks a bit flat. The texture should curve around along with the structure of the bowl itself. Maybe mapping the texture to a sphere would do it?


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 Post subject: Re: The Special Apple In The Bowel - For Griatch
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:39 pm  (#3) 
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I tried to shade it to look rounded...I don't know what that sphere thing is. xD
The Texture is the "mosaic" filter, I couldn't find a nice texture drawing it so I did that....

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 Post subject: Re: The Special Apple In The Bowl - For Griatch
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:48 pm  (#4) 
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One of the filter experts here may have a better idea than I do, but here's one way I can think of to get the curve on the texture.

Select filters -> Map -> Map Object, and select sphere. (It seems to work best if you have the texture in a separate image, filling the entire frame)

Then cut off the top half of the sphere and some of the bottom to get a bowl shape. (iwarp can also be used to flatten the bottom a bit)

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 Post subject: Re: The Special Apple In The Bowl - For Griatch
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:54 pm  (#5) 
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oohhhhhhhh...I wish I had known about that. xD
I don't know if I can do that now, but I will see, since the bowl really could use a bit of a puff! :D

Thank you. :D

Edit:
I kinda fixed it, I noticed a few mistakes but I have to go to bed and GIMP keeps locking up today. :(

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 Post subject: Re: The Special Apple In The Bowl (Fixed) - For Griatch
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:48 am  (#6) 
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Oooh, that's cool Moko! Much appreciated! I like the stark outline around the whole piece, gives it an iconic feel, very much a part of your personal style I think. Applying the spherical map did add more depth to the bowl too. :)

Interesting technique to do everything in colour and then desaturate; as you say it was probably more work this way, but as long as it works!

Since I know you want feedback, you could maybe take another look at the apple. Apples are like bloated doughnuts, around the stem on both sides there is a deep recess (look at the Apple logo for example). I think you could just add a bit more dark-red shading around the stem in this case, and maybe a highlight to show the "dip" around the stem.

Thanks for the great Red Apples Lie themed image! :D
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 Post subject: Re: The Special Apple In The Bowl (Fixed) - For Griatch
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:43 am  (#7) 
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Unusual for you to use greyscale Moko. I like it - it's a great effect.


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 Post subject: Re: The Special Apple In The Bowl (Fixed) - For Griatch
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:44 pm  (#8) 
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Erisian wrote:
Unusual for you to use greyscale Moko. I like it - it's a great effect.

Yeah it is, I like color color and colorrrrrr!!!

I'm glad you like it. :D


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Oooh, that's cool Moko! Much appreciated! I like the stark outline around the whole piece, gives it an iconic feel, very much a part of your personal style I think. Applying the spherical map did add more depth to the bowl too. :)

Interesting technique to do everything in colour and then desaturate; as you say it was probably more work this way, but as long as it works!

Since I know you want feedback, you could maybe take another look at the apple. Apples are like bloated doughnuts, around the stem on both sides there is a deep recess (look at the Apple logo for example). I think you could just add a bit more dark-red shading around the stem in this case, and maybe a highlight to show the "dip" around the stem.

Thanks for the great Red Apples Lie themed image! :D
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You're welcome I'm glad you liked it! :D

I was having issues with the red apple's outline, it wasn't "popping" like I wanted! :gaah
Maybe shading will help, I'll see if I can fix that that way... ;)

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 Post subject: Re: The Special Apple In The Bowl (Apple Fixed) - For Griatch
PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:15 am  (#9) 
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Glad you think the suggestions were useful. I ... don't really see any difference between your "Edit one" and your "Edit 2" concerning the apple though. Maybe you accidentally linked the wrong version?
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 Post subject: Re: The Special Apple In The Bowl (Apple Fixed) - For Griatch
PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:31 pm  (#10) 
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Griatch wrote:
Glad you think the suggestions were useful. I ... don't really see any difference between your "Edit one" and your "Edit 2" concerning the apple though. Maybe you accidentally linked the wrong version?
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Well to me it looks different... but I know what I did. xD

Here's a screen shot to show the difference.

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