I can´t continue ....

Kijkeline · **Joined:** Jun 17, 2021 **Posts:** 5

Sorry I can´t continue, I can´t post any image on this forum

May you remove my member account please ?

Thank you very much !

Ella · **Joined:** May 17, 2014 **Posts:** 1445

Hi Kijkeline, you must have done five postings before you can post an image.
That has been done, I see. So now it should work.
Good luck :clover

and welcome to Gimp Chat :welcome

oldmangrumpy · **Posted:** Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:39 pm **(#3)**

Kijkeline - hi there; we understand your initial frustration, but all forums have rules and regulations and yes, as Ella says you need 5 posts (comments) before being able to post your images.

But you are there now, so please feel free to express yourself artistically, post your works and join in the fun. We would love to see what you wanted to show us :yes

mahvin · **Joined:** Oct 06, 2010 **Posts:** 4050

Are you needing help with posting your images. At first it can be intimidating, but afterwards it's a piece of cake.

PixLab · **Posted:** Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:40 am **(#5)**

mahvin wrote:

Are you needing help with posting your images. At first it can be intimidating, but afterwards it's a piece of cake.

Um... No, it's not its meaning, the problem is to not be able to upload an image before having posted 5 posts, I felt the same way and I almost gave up as usually after introducing yourself on a forum you can upload an image on your second post, or the third one if you did not introduced yourself OR you did not spent time reading 1 or 2 posts just to unlock 1 or 2 badges, but waiting 5 posts... yeah I did felt :gaah

ofnuts · **Joined:** Oct 25, 2010 **Posts:** 4756

PixLab wrote:

mahvin wrote:

Are you needing help with posting your images. At first it can be intimidating, but afterwards it's a piece of cake.

Um... No, it's not its meaning, the problem is to not be able to upload an image before having posted 5 posts, I felt the same way and I almost gave up as usually after introducing yourself on a forum you can upload an image on your second post, or the third one if you did not introduced yourself OR you did not spent time reading 1 or 2 posts just to unlock 1 or 2 badges, but waiting 5 posts... yeah I did felt :gaah

I don't see the justification for this rule. Over on Gimp-Forum we have no such restriction(*) and I have never seen image abuse. Restricting external links in the first posts, why not, but attachments are local.

(*) Given that our main purpose is to answer questions, and that help is much more to the point if the OPs can show their images, this would be counter-productive.

PixLab · **Posted:** Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:38 am **(#7)**

ofnuts wrote:

I don't see the justification for this rule. Over on Gimp-Forum we have no such restriction(*) and I have never seen image abuse. Restricting external links in the first posts, why not, but attachments are local.

(*) Given that our main purpose is to answer questions, and that help is much more to the point if the OPs can show their images, this would be counter-productive.

Indeed! I was able to upload a screenshot on my second or third post to answer a question.
About external link, yeah why not, I understand to counter spam, but after 2 or 3 posts, you can see if they are spammer or not (a spammer will try the first post, if he can't, he will not come back anyway, as he's loosing time)

sallyanne · **Posted:** Sun Jun 20, 2021 9:27 am **(#8)**

Wallace can correct me if I am wrong, but the only person who is able to change this would be the owner (Omega) and you know how often he visits us.

Wallace · **Posted:** Sun Jun 20, 2021 9:42 am **(#9)**

This rule is in place to safeguard Gimp Chat.
The rule stands.

PixLab · **Posted:** Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:23 pm **(#10)**

Wallace wrote:

This rule is in place to safeguard Gimp Chat.

Out of curiosity, from who, from what? Can you elaborate?
in comparison on a photograph's forum, you can post an image from your first post... and here you have an "Art" section...
So I would like to understand why not being able to post an image for 5 posts will safeguard GC?

Wallace wrote:

The rule stands.

Does it mean, it's not an open topic/subject?

Yes, I'm a newbie here, but I'm too old to be satisfied with a "because it's like that", the fact is I like to check the math :mrgreen:

, oh and I said "I'm too old" I'm still under 60yo, though :yes

Wallace · **Posted:** Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:50 am **(#11)**

PixLab wrote:

Wallace wrote:

This rule is in place to safeguard Gimp Chat.

Out of curiosity, from who, from what? Can you elaborate?
in comparison on a photograph's forum, you can post an image from your first post... and here you have an "Art" section...
So I would like to understand why not being able to post an image for 5 posts will safeguard GC?

Wallace wrote:

The rule stands.

Does it mean, it's not an open topic/subject?

Yes, I'm a newbie here, but I'm too old to be satisfied with a "because it's like that", the fact is I like to check the math :mrgreen:

, oh and I said "I'm too old" I'm still under 60yo, though :yes

This 5 post "rule" isn't really a rule.
It's part of Gimp Chat's "Spam Hammer" board setting.
We're not suppose to offer comprehensive answers,
as to the inner working of the site.
Especially those that concern security.
However, most spammers will not make the effort required.
This keeps spammers from filling a thread/post with whatever they like.
Originally this was the idea.

This setting can of course be amended to zero posts required,
but I'm reluctant to do so.
For the reason mentioned above.

PixLab · **Posted:** Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:47 am **(#12)**

Thanks a lot for your answer, I very much appreciated it.

Wallace wrote:

This setting can of course be amended to zero posts required,
but I'm reluctant to do so.
For the reason mentioned above.

May be not zero post, but 3 posts? Would you give it a try for few weeks or until you've forgotten you did setup GC with 3 posts? :hehe

No worries, this was my last question about this topic, I will not come back to it, whatever your decision will be, and I hope that I was not a "piece of work" during this topic (if so please tell me), I was just advocating for the newcomers

(I'm only speaking about being able to upload pictures after 3 posts, not about external links which are a way more sensible subject)

In all cases, thanks a lot for your time and patience :bigthup

Wallace · **Posted:** Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:54 am **(#13)**

PixLab wrote:

Thanks a lot for your answer, I very much appreciated it.

Wallace wrote:

This setting can of course be amended to zero posts required,
but I'm reluctant to do so.
For the reason mentioned above.

May be not zero post, but 3 posts? Would you give it a try for few weeks or until you've forgotten you did setup GC with 3 posts? :hehe

No worries, this was my last question about this topic, I will not come back to it, whatever your decision will be, and I hope that I was not a "piece of work" during this topic (if so please tell me), I was just advocating for the newcomers

(I'm only speaking about being able to upload pictures after 3 posts, not about external links which are a way more sensible subject)

In all cases, thanks a lot for your time and patience :bigthup

We're looking into this issue.
However, I'm not confident that this is going to change.
Your support for a "new member" is notable and much appreciated.

PixLab · **Posted:** Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:50 am **(#14)**

Wallace wrote:

We're looking into this issue.
However, I'm not confident that this is going to change.
Your support for a "new member" is notable and much appreciated.

Thanks for your answer, have a great day :bigthup

Wallace · **Posted:** Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:15 pm **(#15)**

PixLab wrote:

Wallace wrote:

We're looking into this issue.
However, I'm not confident that this is going to change.
Your support for a "new member" is notable and much appreciated.

Thanks for your answer, have a great day :bigthup

No problem.

ofnuts · **Joined:** Oct 25, 2010 **Posts:** 4756

Wallace wrote:

This keeps spammers from filling a thread/post with whatever they like.
Originally this was the idea.

This setting can of course be amended to zero posts required,
but I'm reluctant to do so.
For the reason mentioned above.

In 10 years of Gimp forum moderation (on several sites...) I have never seen a spam with images. and if I were to spam that way I would put a link to an image on a server of mine so I can count the hits. Forbidding links is what keeps these guys away(*).

This said, current spamming levels in forums are way below what they were 10 years ago. It is much more efficient to spam social networks.

(*) In the GF logs, I still see a couple of users per week that ring one or more spammer alarms (IP address, user names, emails) but they don't post anything, likely because their attempts were rejected (links, and some key words).

Wallace · **Posted:** Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:48 pm **(#17)**

ofnuts wrote:

In 10 years of Gimp forum moderation (on several sites...) I have never seen a spam with images. and if I were to spam that way I would put a link to an image on a server of mine so I can count the hits. Forbidding links is what keeps these guys away(*).

This said, current spamming levels in forums are way below what they were 10 years ago. It is much more efficient to spam social networks.

(*) In the GF logs, I still see a couple of users per week that ring one or more spammer alarms (IP address, user names, emails) but they don't post anything, likely because their attempts were rejected (links, and some key words).

This is what the setting says.

Min post count before posting external links: (set to 5)
Users will need this number of posts before they are able to use the [URL] BBCode tag,
or post external page urls and domain references. Applies to posts, signatures, PMs, and profiles.

Thanks for your feedback ofnuts.
We're currently looking into this issue.

Mike · **Joined:** Aug 27, 2010 **Posts:** 491

Quite frankly, I am surprised this even made the second page of comments.

Most sites would be like, "It's our policy and if you don't like it you know where the exit can be located."

Sites don't create rules so their users can tell them they know a better way.

Wallace · **Posted:** Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:53 pm **(#19)**

Attention
We've decided to not make any changes to the post requirements.

Erisian · **Posted:** Mon Jul 05, 2021 4:16 am **(#20)**

Mike wrote:

Quite frankly, I am surprised this even made the second page of comments.

Most sites would be like, "It's our policy and if you don't like it you know where the exit can be located."

Sites don't create rules so their users can tell them they know a better way.

I think it's good that people can query rules in case they can be improved for the benefit of all. At the end of the day it is the decision of those in charge, for good reason, but I would hate to be part of something where I didn't feel able to discuss opinions and ideas. The way you have just described sounds suffocatingly dictatorial.