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 Post subject: Fedora black and white screen of death? [Solved]
PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:26 am  (#1) 
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EDID checksums error ... 135 remaining?
And a black screen with all white letters and numbers.




Okay so i go to login to my os today and it boots, loads the icon and then i get this black screen with white numbers.
And it says something about EDID checksums are wrong 135 remaining or something?

So this is the 3rd time i have installed Fedora from my USB flash drive (thank God i have that), and gotten this crash.Does anyone know whats going on?

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 Post subject: Re: Fedora black and white screen of death?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:42 am  (#2) 
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You might be better off asking at the Fedora User Forum.

This is for F16, probably the same for F17
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=272333

You have to remember being a Fedora user = beta tester for Red Hat

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:14 am  (#3) 
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Rod wrote:
So this is the 3rd time i have installed Fedora from my USB flash drive

Have you needed to reinstall Fedora because after the error the system can not be used anymore?

Another report:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=838265
What is your video card?
lspci | grep -i vga

Using free video drivers or proprietary?

Run the command "dmesg" and see if you find error messages about it (as in the RedHat report)

Also try updating the kernel (if that is possible in Fedora)

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:47 am  (#4) 
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Thanks Yafu.I think i am just going to leave my computer on :lol
That seems to fix the problem.
Also unplugging the monitor works.I guess i will have to upgrade to better video drivers.
I did download and replace with free ones when i was running windows.But those drivers should no longer exist as i wiped the entire windows drive with this install. :)

Sad thing is i lost all my information on my F drive this time.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:58 am  (#5) 
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I really feel bad for you Rod that this is happening. Did you not make a live disk on a DVD? or did you put it onto a USB? I don't know if that makes a difference or not.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:17 pm  (#6) 
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Rod wrote:
Thanks Yafu.I think i am just going to leave my computer on :lol
That seems to fix the problem.

But that's an annoying solution :crash
The kernel has modules that read certain information from Hardware to choose the best system configuration. EDID is the information that digital dispay provide:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_ ... ation_data
Then the problem can come from many places. May be that your display has a corrupt EDID. It may be a bug in the Kernel. Unlikely but can also be the video drivers.
You as first step do a system update just in case Fedora to correct the problem. And try to get a newer Kernel version that you have.
I'm seeing that there are problems when your card is an ATI:
https://www.google.com/search?q="kernel"+"edid"
Is your video card an ATI? See the previous order I have given you for know that

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Yes that is the display driver that i installed ATI :)

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:41 pm  (#8) 
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Rod wrote:
I did download and replace with free ones when i was running windows.But those drivers should no longer exist as i wiped the entire windows drive with this install. :)

Sad thing is i lost all my information on my F drive this time.

Rod, the video drivers for Windows won't work in Linux.

Most people are running nVidia or AMD/ATI video cards. Both of those companies provide proprietary video drivers specifically designed for Linux. Never manually download and use the drivers from nVidia or AMD/ATI's website because you'll be redoing it everytime there is a new kernel update. If you do decide to go with either of these proprietary drivers, they are already packaged for Fedora and are available in the rpmfusion repos you have already enabled. Using akmod will automatically rebuild the kernel mods each time a new kernel is released and will fill the time gap between the new kernel and the kmods being pushed out to the repos.

You can determine which video card you have and which kernel module driver is being used by issuing the following from terminal as root.

lspci -vk

Would you post the output of that command back to this thread (or send it to me in a PM)?

Once you determine which brand/model of video card you have, you can install the correct proprietary drivers. Specific and exact steps need to be followed when installing the drivers. If you use nVidia, there are two drivers. One driver is for newer cards and one driver is for legacy cards.

If everything else is working properly with the open source drivers, I highly recommend you stick with them and don't bother installing the proprietary drivers.

Btw- The EDID checksum error doesn't have anything to do with fact that you chose to use Fedora as your distro. It's not limited to any specific distro and it is not limited to ATI video cards. If unplugging your monitor fixes the problem, that suggests there is corruption occurring with your display's EDID and powering it off and back up corrects the problem. My guess is that the Windows drivers you've been using ignored the checksum or just didn't use EDID, which is common in Windows.

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I recall in Ubuntu that there was a command line fix similar to chkdsk that fixed a client's (had an illegal OS license and I told him I would put Feisty Fawn on his system {yes, way back; lol} and he said that's cool. I got it back a few months later and repaired it and found out he really was using Ubuntu for images and music and such and that brought a smile to me. I asked him how he liked Linux and he said he was extremely pleased with the OS) Ubuntu build (did some research to find the solution as I recall; lol) so I know there is such a command if you are getting kicked out to the terminal Rod. Just don't remember it since I don't use Ubuntu that often. Assuming the same command for Fedora since Linux is probably the same at the terminal level. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Fedora black and white screen of death?
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Here is the information you requested Tux.

[rod@rod ~]$ su -
Password:
[root@rod ~]# lspci -vk
00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Xpress 200 Host Bridge (rev 01)
   Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 2a30
   Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64
   Memory at <ignored> (64-bit, non-prefetchable)

00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
   Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 99
   Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=68
   I/O behind bridge: 0000e000-0000efff
   Memory behind bridge: fde00000-fdefffff
   Prefetchable memory behind bridge: d8000000-dfffffff
   Capabilities: [b0] Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 2a30

00:11.0 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 Serial ATA Controller (rev 80) (prog-if 8f [Master SecP SecO PriP PriO])
   Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 2a30
   Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 23
   I/O ports at ff00 [size=8]
   I/O ports at fe00 [size=4]
   I/O ports at fd00 [size=8]
   I/O ports at fc00 [size=4]
   I/O ports at fb00 [size=16]
   Memory at fe02f000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512]
   Expansion ROM at fdf80000 [disabled] [size=512K]
   Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2
   Capabilities: [50] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
   Kernel driver in use: sata_sil

00:12.0 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 Serial ATA Controller (rev 80) (prog-if 8f [Master SecP SecO PriP PriO])
   Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 2a30
   Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 22
   I/O ports at fa00 [size=8]
   I/O ports at f900 [size=4]
   I/O ports at f800 [size=8]
   I/O ports at f700 [size=4]
   I/O ports at f600 [size=16]
   Memory at fe02e000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512]
   Expansion ROM at 3c000000 [disabled] [size=512K]
   Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2
   Capabilities: [50] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
   Kernel driver in use: sata_sil

00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
   Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 2a30
   Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 19
   Memory at fe02d000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
   Capabilities: [d0] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
   Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd

00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
   Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 2a30
   Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 19
   Memory at fe02c000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
   Capabilities: [d0] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
   Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd

00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB2 Host Controller (rev 80) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
   Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 2a30
   Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 19
   Memory at fe02b000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
   Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2
   Capabilities: [d0] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
   Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd

00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 SMBus Controller (rev 82)
   Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 2a30
   Flags: 66MHz, medium devsel
   I/O ports at 0b00 [size=16]
   Memory at fe02a000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]

00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 IDE Controller (rev 80) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
   Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 2a30
   Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 16
   I/O ports at 01f0 [size=8]
   I/O ports at 03f4 [size=1]
   I/O ports at 0170 [size=8]
   I/O ports at 0374 [size=1]
   I/O ports at f400 [size=16]
   Capabilities: [70] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
   Kernel driver in use: pata_atiixp

00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
   Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 2a30
   Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 64, IRQ 16
   Memory at fe024000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
   Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
   Capabilities: [60] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
   Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel

00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-ISA Bridge (rev 80)
   Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 2a30
   Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0

00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-PCI Bridge (rev 80) (prog-if 01 [Subtractive decode])
   Flags: bus master, VGA palette snoop, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64
   Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=64
   I/O behind bridge: 0000d000-0000dfff
   Memory behind bridge: fdd00000-fddfffff
   Prefetchable memory behind bridge: fdc00000-fdcfffff

01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
   Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 2a30
   Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 17
   Memory at d8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
   I/O ports at ee00 [size=256]
   Memory at fdef0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
   [virtual] Expansion ROM at fde00000 [disabled] [size=128K]
   Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
   Capabilities: [80] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
   Kernel driver in use: radeon

02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
   Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 2a30
   Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 21
   I/O ports at dc00 [size=256]
   Memory at fddff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
   Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
   Kernel driver in use: 8139too

02:04.0 Communication controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. HSF 56k Data/Fax Modem
   Subsystem: Conexant Systems, Inc. Soft Data Fax Modem with SmartCP
   Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 255
   Memory at fdde0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
   I/O ports at df00 [size=8]
   Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2

02:06.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Agere Systems FW322/323 (rev 61) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
   Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 2a30
   Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 20
   Memory at fddfe000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
   Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2
   Kernel driver in use: firewire_ohci

[root@rod ~]#


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