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 Post subject: Re: After taking some time with linux...
PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:03 am  (#11) 
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-Ubuntu comes with the Wacom drivers preinstalled in the kernel. Why do you need to download new ones?
-While it's preinstalled, you might need to do a little light tweaking to get it working jut right.

-I learned to hard way, that searching the Internet can lead you down the path of bad or old information. Beware.

-Almost all Linux distributions have a package manager. There should be no reason to download TAR archives and install programs manually. "Synaptic" is the program you should open to install programs. It might not have really uncommon ones, but you should find almost everything you could want there.

-If you burn the ISO to a disc, you can easily install Ubuntu from inside Windows. Just pop the CD/DVD in and run Wubi.exe.
-If you want to install it the other way, you need to learn about partitioning. You can install Ubuntu without wiping your entire drive. While setting the installation parameters, it should allow you to set how you want to partition. You could practice installing Linux using a virtual machine, or on another computer. However, I think a demonstration is best. Check this video out: (Hold on, I'm looking for the video. I can't seem to find it.)
-Before you install, you need to shrink Window's partition. You can do this from inside Windows if you're using Vista or 7. After shrinking it, shut down and reboot into Windows so it can check the file system to make sure everything still works.
-If you can, it's usually helpful to separate the OS's file system from your personal files (on separate partitions). You don't need to though. You can get by with everything on one partition if you want.
-If you have a lot of RAM, you can get by without a swap partition. It is not ideal, and it can cause your computer to lock up if you run out of free RAM, but it's possible.

To answer Rod's question, most Linux installs use between 2-4 GB for the system. Some ask for more space for later expansion, but you can fit Linux on a USB stick.

VIDEOS & TUTORIALS:
-Video showing how to shrink the Windows partition in 7 (or maybe Vista) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Anpfu6WY ... re=related
-Video showing you the overall process for partitioning. You don't need to follow this to the letter, it's just a loose guide. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhnLk3gv ... re=related
-Tutorial showing how to install from within Windows. http://hubpages.com/hub/Install-Ubuntu- ... -With-WUBI
-Video showing how to manually partition. It's actually showing how to upgrade, but it should still help. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5AGfHJysBk

And no, that not me in those videos. I'm no even on Ubuntu right now. My latest Unix mistress is OpenSUSE.

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 Post subject: Re: After taking some time with linux...
PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:52 am  (#12) 
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about Ubuntu nobody force you to update every 6 mounths, if the system is stable and customized to your need no much reason to upgrade

Anyway the very last version, on the net from Yesterday is one of the "long term" and will be supported for 3 years

What i prefer in Ubuntu is that even if the official repository may be off date, you could find very often updated packadges in some unofficial repository

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 Post subject: Re: After taking some time with linux...
PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:34 am  (#13) 
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Well... if you want to install anything *new* down the road, it can be a bit challenging. Also, if you want old libraries for said new-to-you programs you may suddenly find them unavailable.

I speak from experience. I switched to debian, and never looked back. I suppose it might be different now...

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Anyway the very last version, on the net from Yesterday is one of the "long term" and will be supported for 3 years


Yes. I tend to re-purpose machines and use them until they die. As I said, Lazy. So YMMV.

And there are reasons not to use Debian. They get weird and political about seemingly arbitrary things (I know they are not, by the way, but if you don't have an exhaustive in depth knowledge about the Free vs. Open software... it really looks random) And so you have to do some of your own leg-work for things like... Flash Player and the like.

And yes, one should always download from the package manager, because dealing with dependencies in your head is more than anyone should have to deal with.

As for on-line searches: was talking about browsing for how-to's and other on-line information. I should have made that more clear. Sorry.

I don't hate Ubuntu. I rather like it actually. I just use Debian because it meets my personal needs somewhat better. For most people, Ubuntu is probably better. So let's just pretend I edited that comment out. It's pretty pointless and just adds drift.


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 Post subject: Re: After taking some time with linux...
PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:54 am  (#14) 
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"-Ubuntu comes with the Wacom drivers preinstalled in the kernel. Why do you need to download new ones?" because i had no way of knowing they came preinstalled. yes, I knew how to burn an ISO and have already installed ubuntu. An example off the top of my head regarding installing tarballs is inkscape. When i let the software manager download it it wasn't the current version.

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 Post subject: Re: After taking some time with linux...
PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:33 pm  (#15) 
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Well, every time I've used Ubuntu, I was able to just plug my tablet in and it automatically worked. I needs minor tweaking to get the aspect ratio right, but it's already there.

GIMP also needs a little tweaking.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:56 pm  (#16) 
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I'll try it and see. I need to get the connectivity issue fixed. I can't get it connected to my LAN yet which means no software downloads yet.

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 Post subject: Re: After taking some time with linux...
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:56 pm  (#17) 
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Bummer.

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 Post subject: Re: After taking some time with linux...
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:20 pm  (#18) 
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Bummer indeed.

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 Post subject: Re: After taking some time with linux...
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Right now I'm completely disappointed with the whole thing. I decided to go all the way and removed the windows partition so now all I have is ubuntu but I simply cannot get it to connect to my gateway. Without being online I can't do anything. Although I'm not a noob in anyway networks are a weak point for me. I can usually get a windows system to work but Ubuntu asks for a LOT more information. I thought I had all of the information right but it won't connect. I've researched it, tried some of the stuff i've found and nothing works. So for right now I have a 30 pound paper weight sitting in my living room.
Unless i can get the wireless connected I'll have to move it to another room and dig an ethernet cable out of my junk box.

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 Post subject: Re: After taking some time with linux...
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For all its worth, I have a Gateway and from what I understand it has to have the windows partition. When I had my big virus crash last year, it wouldn't let me use anything except the disk provided by Gateway. I had a techie working on it, and after several calls to Gateway, they informed him the partitions have to stay. I think Gateway is the only PC that builds computers that doesn't let you install without the partition....

Don't ask me if I know what I am talking about, cuz I don't. All I know the partition couldn't be removed. :roll:

http://www.computing.net/answers/window ... 82967.html

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