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 Post subject: Howto- Remove Foreground blurred Object
PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:00 pm  (#1) 
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I have been trying to remove the blurred stalk from this picture but have tried many things without any avail.

Could anyone help me learn.

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 Post subject: Re: Howto- Remove Foreground blurred Object
PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:03 pm  (#2) 
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The clone tool :clone would be useful for this. Choose a fuzzy brush, CTRL-click on the part of the image you want to use (somewhere close to the stalk is good) then paint carefully over the stalk.


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 Post subject: Re: Howto- Remove Foreground blurred Object
PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:26 pm  (#3) 
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I had a go at this but rushed it and made a mess but this should give you an idea of what could be achievable with care.

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 Post subject: Re: Howto- Remove Foreground blurred Object
PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:43 pm  (#4) 
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Nice job Eris.
You can also use the resynthsize script. I didn't put the wires back in though.
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 Post subject: Re: Howto- Remove Foreground blurred Object
PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:15 pm  (#5) 
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Thank you both for the replies.
Eris's result was better than the resynthesizer, though I tried duplicating using clone tool and could not do a better job, I guess it requires quite some skill.

However, I was thinking if there was a method which could use the fact that the stalk is blurred and the background is somewhat visible through. Could we use this information in reconstructing the image somehow?


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 Post subject: Re: Howto- Remove Foreground blurred Object
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:45 am  (#6) 
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Hi Symfar, Yes it does take some practice. In this case I duplicated the layer twice, made a jagged feathered selection in the top selection, cut out the selection and then moved the layer underneath so that I had a nice colour match. I then merged the top layers, select all and used the clone stamp at 50 % to hide where the selections merged. Even then there is often a marked difference in hue (especially in the sky). I overcome this by using the noise spread filter to spread the join (using the smudge tool often leaves flat areas which do not look nice). In this photo I repeated this procedure five times in different areas of the photo. For the power lines, I simply cloned them out. Then on transparent layers (new) I used the paths tool to draw the path which I then stroked with a brush at 50 % to join over the cloned sky.
All told , about 2 hours work to get a believable result. I have left the file at the same size for you to compare with your original. BTW it is usually easier to create new content if it fits in rather than recover what is partially hidden.
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 Post subject: Re: Howto- Remove Foreground blurred Object
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:49 am  (#7) 
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Excellent result Wbool.


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 Post subject: Re: Howto- Remove Foreground blurred Object
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:27 am  (#8) 
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Nice photo, used wireworm to remove the wires
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 Post subject: Re: Howto- Remove Foreground blurred Object
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:44 am  (#9) 
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Remember also that to get very close color matches for cut or copied selections you can use the Colors>Curves tool. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Howto- Remove Foreground blurred Object
PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:58 am  (#10) 
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@alc59, I have wireworm downloaded and installed in my plug-in directory but I was reading the text in with the download and it doesn't look like it works with 64 bit. I am running Fedora-17 and it only names windows and Mac. Do you know if this will work in Fedora?

I clicked the permissions to allow it to be executable but it doesn't show up in my Gimp so maybe that is why because my Gimp is 64 and also my Linux.

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 Post subject: Re: Howto- Remove Foreground blurred Object
PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:48 am  (#11) 
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Can you elaborate a little Rod?


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 Post subject: Re: Howto- Remove Foreground blurred Object
PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:38 am  (#12) 
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molly wrote:
@alc59, I have wireworm downloaded and installed in my plug-in directory but I was reading the text in with the download and it doesn't look like it works with 64 bit. I am running Fedora-17 and it only names windows and Mac. Do you know if this will work in Fedora?

I clicked the permissions to allow it to be executable but it doesn't show up in my Gimp so maybe that is why because my Gimp is 64 and also my Linux.


I use wireworm as a irfanview plug-in
haven't tried it in my gimp 2.8 64


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 Post subject: Re: Howto- Remove Foreground blurred Object
PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:53 am  (#13) 
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okay, thanks alc. I have a feeling it won't work cuz I do have 9 or 10 ps plug-ins and they work so it could be a version thing or maybe a 64-bit prob.
If you decide to try it and it works, let me know will you? :teeth

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:03 pm  (#14) 
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Molly wrote:
@alc59, I have wireworm downloaded and installed in my plug-in directory but I was reading the text in with the download and it doesn't look like it works with 64 bit. I am running Fedora-17 and it only names windows and Mac. Do you know if this will work in Fedora?

Wire Worm is excellent, although it will run on Win and Mac 32-bit and 64-bit systems it needs a 32-bit host.
Use alc59 suggestion of IrfanView (32-bit).
I'm curious does ShellOut work between 32-bit and 64-bit programs?

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 Post subject: Re: Howto- Remove Foreground blurred Object
PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:13 pm  (#15) 
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molly wrote:
okay, thanks alc. I have a feeling it won't work cuz I do have 9 or 10 ps plug-ins and they work so it could be a version thing or maybe a 64-bit prob.
If you decide to try it and it works, let me know will you? :teeth

It will open but can't get it to run in 64
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 Post subject: Re: Howto- Remove Foreground blurred Object
PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:23 pm  (#16) 
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darn, I can't even get it to open that far. It doesn't show up on my menu. Where is it on yours? thats too bad cuz I really like that plug-in.
Maybe someone will rewrite it. Thank you alc.

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 Post subject: Re: Howto- Remove Foreground blurred Object
PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:36 pm  (#17) 
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This is the first time i ever used PSPI
i had to point it to the wireworm folder under settings, then it showed in filters
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 Post subject: Re: Howto- Remove Foreground blurred Object
PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:39 pm  (#18) 
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I don't have PSPI. I looked into it and I thought it said it didn't work in 64-bit. Do you have the link for that one?

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 Post subject: Re: Howto- Remove Foreground blurred Object
PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:47 pm  (#19) 
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That's probably why it's not working, it's 32bit, just thought i'd try it
you could probably run it with wine
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 Post subject: Re: Howto- Remove Foreground blurred Object
PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:56 pm  (#20) 
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Thanks alc. I got all the info on how to get this but it is all this compiling stuff and cd command, make command etc. I might have known it would not be an easy install. lol

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