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 Post subject: Finally my Java is talking to JWF
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:02 am  (#1) 
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Admittedly I only tried a couple of times in the past two years but many times after downloading a second version and it would not 'see' my java (which was the latest too).
Here is one of the first things I have done today. I called it a 'earth heart' because of the colours.
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Here is a larger one of the heart
https://www.flickr.com/photos/115367823@N05/

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 Post subject: Re: Finally my Java is talking to JWF
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:07 am  (#2) 
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Looks cool, Sallyanne. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Finally my Java is talking to JWF
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:45 am  (#3) 
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Thanks Lyle.
Wish I could make them bigger but I only have a small laptop. Was told when downloading this version that you really needed 64 bit to render proper sizes too.
Did this one before as well - looks a little like a flower in the middle
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I did this with it
https://www.flickr.com/photos/115367823 ... 54/sizes/l

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:38 am  (#4) 
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sallyanne wrote:
Admittedly I only tried a couple of times in the past two years but many times after downloading a second version and it would not 'see' my java (which was the latest too).
Here is one of the first things I have done today. I called it a 'earth heart' because of the colours.
[ Image ]
Here is a larger one of the heart
https://www.flickr.com/photos/115367823@N05/

Java Windows Framework?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:55 pm  (#5) 
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Rod wrote:
sallyanne wrote:
Admittedly I only tried a couple of times in the past two years but many times after downloading a second version and it would not 'see' my java (which was the latest too).
Here is one of the first things I have done today. I called it a 'earth heart' because of the colours.
[ Image ]
Here is a larger one of the heart
https://www.flickr.com/photos/115367823@N05/

Java Windows Framework?

Sorry Rod I didn't think it was a new thing. JWF = jWildfire flame/fractals
http://www.jwildfire.org/

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:11 am  (#6) 
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TMA - JWF uses JRE

Version 3 was released end of last year and is excellent. Well worth a try if anyone interested in this sort of pattern.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:51 am  (#7) 
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sallyanne wrote:
Rod wrote:
sallyanne wrote:
Admittedly I only tried a couple of times in the past two years but many times after downloading a second version and it would not 'see' my java (which was the latest too).
Here is one of the first things I have done today. I called it a 'earth heart' because of the colours.
[ Image ]
Here is a larger one of the heart
https://www.flickr.com/photos/115367823@N05/

Java Windows Framework?

Sorry Rod I didn't think it was a new thing. JWF = jWildfire flame/fractals
http://www.jwildfire.org/

Ahh okay. Thank you for clearing that up for us. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Finally my Java is talking to JWF
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:27 pm  (#8) 
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How did you do it, Sallyanne. I downloaded but it wont run because Linux complains it's not executable and I can't fix it myself because it's read only in the properties. I may give up because I don't want to signup to yet another forum to get help.

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 Post subject: Re: Finally my Java is talking to JWF
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:30 pm  (#9) 
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How did you do it, Sallyanne. I downloaded but it wont run because Linux complains it's not executable and I can't fix it myself because it's read only in the properties. I may give up because I don't want to signup to yet another forum to get help.

It is a Java application, and runs from your home folder. Not even really necessary to make it executable, except for maybe the starter script for a .desktop file.

Not too sure that Sallyanne uses linux so:

It goes something like this:

Before starting you need the java runtime installed. That should be in your distro repository. In ubuntu look for something like: http://imgur.com/tuT0Evv

Then download and unpack the jwildfire zip into its own folder, somewhere in your home partition (1)

Start it up using the standard java syntax
java -jar j-wildfire-launcher.jar

in a terminal or run the provided bash file (2)

Use the Add Java runtime button and browse for the location (3) something like shown. It will be there somewhere. Only need to do that once or again if the java packages get updated.

all-in-one screenshot: http://imgur.com/YbNt8VH

Then it is click on the start button to get the JWildFire dialog. Sometimes a little delay before it starts, looks like this. http://imgur.com/6EyfVyT

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:58 pm  (#10) 
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Kimba wrote:
How did you do it, Sallyanne. I downloaded but it wont run because Linux complains it's not executable and I can't fix it myself because it's read only in the properties. I may give up because I don't want to signup to yet another forum to get help.

It is a Java application, and runs from your home folder. Not even really necessary to make it executable, except for maybe the starter script for a .desktop file.

Not too sure that Sallyanne uses linux so:

It goes something like this:

Before starting you need the java runtime installed. That should be in your distro repository. In ubuntu look for something like: http://imgur.com/tuT0Evv

Then download and unpack the jwildfire zip into its own folder, somewhere in your home partition (1)

Start it up using the standard java syntax
java -jar j-wildfire-launcher.jar

in a terminal or run the provided bash file (2)

Use the Add Java runtime button and browse for the location (3) something like shown. It will be there somewhere. Only need to do that once or again if the java packages get updated.

all-in-one screenshot: http://imgur.com/YbNt8VH

Then it is click on the start button to get the JWildFire dialog. Sometimes a little delay before it starts, looks like this. http://imgur.com/6EyfVyT

I have done all that but the sh file is treated as a text file and the launcher comes up with an error saying it's not executable and I should be careful.

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 Post subject: Re: Finally my Java is talking to JWF
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:06 pm  (#11) 
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Image This is my error message.

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 Post subject: Re: Finally my Java is talking to JWF
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:44 am  (#12) 
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The thing with JWF fractals is they also have scripts installed and you may install others. I already had the background and then ran the spiral and heart scripts. Thus giving it the heart shape. The 'Earth Heart'
The flower one I found something I liked in mutagen and ran 3D on it. I don't think it is a script but one of the settings. After pressing a setting you need to render again and script 'run'
Someone had to work it out first and their name is mentioned and then put it into a script for users to use.
Kimba, rich has done an extremely good job at trying to explain. Please don't give up! You have an extremely talented mind and will be able to get a lot out of it.
If you are still having problems try the JWF forum at http://jwildfire.org/forum/index.php
You may get an answer there. Someone there surely should be able to help you get it working!

Thanks rich for the heads up on the latest version. And yes I run windows.

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 Post subject: Re: Finally my Java is talking to JWF
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:47 am  (#13) 
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Kimba wrote:
[ Image ] This is my error message.


New day, our time-zones are diametrically opposite. ;)

Interesting message, I do not think putting the files in your Desktop folder is a good idea. AFAIK the jar file does not need to be executable. Guessing that you are clicking on it, in Windows fashion.

Knocked up a video on installation, this in a kubuntu VM, so everything a little cramped.

https://youtu.be/kgH74dnMPBA about 6 minutes

Out of interest, which linux distribution do you use? Obviously package managers, file managers differ. konsole = console = terminal = xterm depending on distro.

but...it might give some clues to get jwildfire working.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:16 pm  (#14) 
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Thanks Rich2005, I am using Linux Mint 18. Yes I was double-clicking Windows fashion :oops: , I only use the terminal when I have to, I hate typing.

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I have tried everything I know but I still can't get it working. It's a permissions problem but I have tried changing permissions and I still get the error message whether I use the terminal or not.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:03 am  (#16) 
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Hate to be beaten by a dumb computer ;)
I did a test installation in a Mint 18 Virtual machine. There should be no problems with jre and it looks like you have that installed already.

When it comes to starting j-wildfire-launcher.jar, do not right click and choose the start with java option. You must use the java syntax

java -jar j-wildfire-launcher.jar


Here is the video of the installation. https://youtu.be/-agtoAoUstM 7 minutes
Everything is included:
- Install JRE using the Mint Software Manager.
--- give java a check in a terminal
- Download the jwildfire zip
--- unzip with the Mint archive manager
--- make a jwildfire folder
--- copy the files over and check permissions
- First run of jwildfire in a terminal to check that it works.
- Make a desktop launcher for Jwildfire

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 Post subject: Re: Finally my Java is talking to JWF
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:53 pm  (#17) 
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ImageThank you, Rich2005, I got it working with your instructions. I don't understand Java as I have concentrated on Python.

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 Post subject: Re: Finally my Java is talking to JWF
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:15 pm  (#18) 
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It is shown at the end of that last video.

Briefly (at least in that cinnamon Mint18)
1. right click on the desktop and choose 'make a new launcher here'
2. browse for the j-wildfire-launcher.jar file so you get the whole path maybe home/kimba/somefolder/j-wildfire-launcher.jar
3. edit that to add the java -jar bit to the front
ok that.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:32 pm  (#19) 
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Thanks Rich2005, I withdrew that last comment when I watched the video. I didn't realise you would see it so soon.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:20 pm  (#20) 
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This post explains why I had so much trouble and how to fix it. https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic. ... 7&t=172661

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