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 Post subject: Re: New filters set 'Film emulation/'
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:03 pm  (#41) 
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... I don't agree with you :
Why don't you people allow to download the module they want manually and put it in the good place ?
I know five people who use GIMP. Two of them can't run this plugin... (2/5 ! + me).
Do you find that ok ?
I never had similar problems. I use RawTherapee, PhotoFiltre, ShiftN, FastStone, neatImage...I don't speak about other software that don't concern the photo.
Cloud is the cancer of the liberty !


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 Post subject: Re: New filters set 'Film emulation/'
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:06 pm  (#42) 
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Sacom wrote:
... I don't agree with you :
Why don't you people allow to download the module they want manually and put it in the good place ?

Why do you think this is not possible ? Have you only tried to ask ?

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I know five people who use GIMP. Two of them can't run this plugin... (2/5 ! + me).
Do you find that ok ?

Why don't they post feedback, explain their problems so we can try to help them ?
Complaining without even giving clues to help you is useless.

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I never had similar problems. I use RawTherapee, PhotoFiltre, ShiftN, FastStone, neatImage...I don't speak about other software that don't concern the photo.
Cloud is the cancer of the liberty !


What cloud ? It seems you have a huge misunderstanding on what the G'MIC project is, its philosophy, and how it works. If Patrick David (the author of the color profile files) could read you, I'm sure he would appreciate !
The color profile files for the film emulation filters are absolutely free to download, and the links can be found quite easily.
Nobody already had this request (or at least never asked), that's why you cannot find a list of the links. But, you could be surprised to see how this can be fixed easily when asking in a polite way.
The easy way : find someone who succeeded in downloading all of the color profiles (use filter '[Download all presets]' for this).
The required files are then stored locally on its computer, you can find them here :
- On Linux : $HOME/.gmic_film_presets/*.cimgz
- On Windows : %APPDATA/gmic_*.cimgz
Copy them on your machine, at the same location and it should solve your problem.

And next time, I suggest you to be less aggressive.


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 Post subject: Re: New filters set 'Film emulation/'
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:36 pm  (#43) 
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I clicked on <Download all presets>, I waited for a while (obviously) and I got all of them, without any problem!
(just a minus point: they go -in Windows- under "...(user)/AppData/Roaming", each one with its appropriate name)

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 Post subject: Re: New filters set 'Film emulation/'
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:09 pm  (#44) 
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Also, I've done a .zip file with all color profiles included. You can get it here : http://gmic.sourceforge.net/data_film_p ... resets.zip
You are welcome.


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 Post subject: Re: New filters set 'Film emulation/'
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:51 pm  (#45) 
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Hello all,

I must apologize for my anger. I got out and walked under the stars :o)
I'm better. Excuse me...
I have spent many time to try to understand what is matter.
Moreover, my provider Orange give me only 1Mb of band pass and with a lot of misunderstanding, I exploded.
I erased all and I will reinstall all.

Tell me :
Once one downloaded any profil, is it definitively on the PC ?
Or the next time, we have to download it again ?
In the second case it looks like a cloud...isn't it ?
And with a very low bandpass, it isn't really pleasant.

Thanks for your help and your patience.


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 Post subject: Re: New filters set 'Film emulation/'
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:52 pm  (#46) 
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I tried clicking on Download all presets & I got nothing. What exactly am I supposed to see when I reopen G'MIC? Also if we download the presets that are in the zip file, where are they supposed to go after they are downloaded?

Edit: I get it now. I have all the presets downloaded and under the filer Film Emulation, there are 2 categories "Other Effects" & "Slide [color]" They are pretty hard to miss if you're not careful. Within the "Other Effects" preset, it lists the presets to the right in the scroll bar. Same goes for "Slide [color]".


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 Post subject: Re: New filters set 'Film emulation/'
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:07 pm  (#47) 
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For the curious an interesting overview, Color Film Emulation Added to GIMP!
Check the comments and skeptical enough about film emulation link.

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 Post subject: Re: New filters set 'Film emulation/'
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:21 pm  (#48) 
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This is a brief technical explanation on how the Film emulation filters work.
When you select one particular type of film in one of the Film emulation filter, G'MIC checks if the color profile already exist on your hard drive.
If it finds it, then it uses it. Otherwise, it tries to download it via Internet, and if it succeeds, it stores the color profile into a new local file on your hard drive.

So, basically, if your Internet connection does not work for some reasons, all you need to make these Film emulation filters work is to download the color profiles (the .zip link I've sent), and decompress all these files in the folder where G'MIC is trying to find them. Doing this will avoid G'MIC to try downloading the files from the Internet, as they will be already present on your hard disk.
The folder where your must store the files depends on the OS you are using :

- On Linux, you need to create a folder $HOME/.gmic_film_preset/, then put all the .cimgz data files from the .zip archive inside this newly created folder.
- On Windows, you just have to put all your .cimgz data files directly into the %APPDATA/ folder (this is a path variable that depends on your version of Windows, so I cannot tell you exactly what it is, maybe others can help and tell what they have for %APPDATA/). Here, no need to create a new subfolder in %APPDATA/

This is the only thing you should do. Then you run GIMP, then the G'MIC plug-in, and all film emulation filters should work without having to retrieve data from the Internet. If this doesn't work like this, you have probably done something wrong.
Of course, once these files are copied on your local hard-drive, they can stay there forever, so no need to do the manipulation again on the same machine (except if new color profiles are added in the Film Emulation filters in the future !).

Well, that's how it technically works. Let me know if you encounter some problems in doing this.


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 Post subject: Re: New filters set 'Film emulation/'
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:46 pm  (#49) 
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On my windows 7 the individual .cimgz files for this end up in the same place as the gmic update files:

C:\Users\%USERNAME%\AppData\Roaming (which is a hidden folder normally)

So I assume on windows XP they should be in:

C:\Documents and Settings\%USERNAME%\ (or at least some folder under there)

Maybe this will help!


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 Post subject: Re: New filters set 'Film emulation/'
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:48 pm  (#50) 
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OK !
All is reinstalled and all is OK, despite a very very slow downloading.
Oouff !

I notice that when I use a preset, It is loaded by Internet (slowly:o) and I 'm able to use it again, even after a powerOFF/power/on of my PC.
So it is OK...BUT... !

I put all the presets that I have downloaded and unziped in the place where I have found the first preset I've already used and which is ok, but G'Mic is not able to use the presets here copied.

I suppose we must indicate at Gmic (somewhere) the name of preset it can use without download it by Internet...

ps : for my tryings, I stopped my link Internet ; it is here I see the presets doesn't works...


Any idea ?
An I clear in my explanations ?


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 Post subject: Re: New filters set 'Film emulation/'
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:51 pm  (#51) 
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I confirm : on my Win 7 64bits, the presets are here :

C:\users\blabla\appdata\roaming\ .............


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 Post subject: Re: New filters set 'Film emulation/'
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:57 pm  (#52) 
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You are right Sacom, it seems there have been some problems with the zip file.
I'll try to fix that as soon as possible.


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 Post subject: Re: New filters set 'Film emulation/'
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 6:00 pm  (#53) 
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Ah I see what's up, the individual files need a prefix of "gmic_"


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 Post subject: Re: New filters set 'Film emulation/'
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 6:15 pm  (#54) 
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Thx garagecoder, that was it.
Here is the new link :

http://gmic.sourceforge.net/data_film_p ... resets.zip

That should work now, after the upload is finished (takes a lot of time with my connection here, at home).
Tomorrow, I'll add a little notice about it in the filter [Download all presets] as well.


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 Post subject: Re: New filters set 'Film emulation/'
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 6:32 pm  (#55) 
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Congratulation !
Now, it run nicely.

I have renomed the files. It exist a very nice tool here : http://programmation.micsoft.fr/program ... lappli.php

And which permit to make what we want with the names of files.


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 Post subject: Re: New filters set 'Film emulation/'
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:25 am  (#56) 
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Ha nice news indeed !


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 Post subject: Re: New filters set 'Film emulation/'
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:05 am  (#57) 
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I've added a quick note to explain the different steps. Maybe this will be useful for other users in the future.

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 Post subject: Re: New filters set 'Film emulation/'
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:05 pm  (#58) 
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David,
maybe you use %APPDATA as a symbol, I don't know, but -as said before- on my system (Windows 7 32-bits) and on Sacom's system (Windows 7 64-bits) the application data folders are on:
(Users/user-name)/AppData, where you have 3 different subfolders:
Local, LocalLow, Roaming
and G'MIC presets go into the Roaming subfolder

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 Post subject: Re: New filters set 'Film emulation/'
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:53 pm  (#59) 
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%APPDATA is actually a system variable, which can take several different values, depending on the version of windows you are considering. I can't reasonably list all the values this variable can take, for all different versions of windows, so I'll let the user determine its own value of %APPDATA by itself.


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 Post subject: Re: New filters set 'Film emulation/'
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:59 pm  (#60) 
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OK, I was almost sure you were right (that was the reason I mentioned "symbol"), sorry.

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