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 Post subject: What Is Wilber? SOLVED
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:21 am  (#1) 
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Okay, so I emailed the creator of Wilber, Tuomas Kuosmanen, about what Wilber really is. My email to him is as follows, copied and pasted:

Tuomas,

Are you the same person that designed Wilber the GIMP? If so, I have a question. Is Wilber supposed to be a known animal, or is he a GIMP, as Gimp.org says? Some say he's a coyote, but I tend to believe what GIMP.org says. Could you please clear this up for us. GIMPWIKI says he's a coyote as well, so some believe that. Also, did Wilber ever have a body, or just a head, as it's known now? Please clear this up for me. Would be great to hear it coming right from the person's mouth that created him. Thanks!

Jim

His response, also copy and pasted:

Hey, yes I am. :-)

You are correct: Wilber is an animal of its own species: a "gimp".
What a GIMP is, is sort of a joke, because people kept asking it so
much: it would be so boring to say it's a dog or a fox or whatever.
And when I designed the character, I did not really have any
particular animal in mind. - so it's sort of a mystery without any
explanation.

It also does not have a body. I think I have seen an image years ago
when someone did a body for it, but not in general.

Have a good day! :-)

//Tuomas

So, GIMP.org is correct. :bigthup

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 Post subject: Re: What Is Wilber? SOLVED
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:33 am  (#2) 
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Thanks Warrior now we all know and I'm sure the creator still gets amused when people try to figure it out :rofl

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 Post subject: Re: What Is Wilber? SOLVED
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:45 am  (#3) 
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Graechan wrote:
Thanks Warrior now we all know and I'm sure the creator still gets amused when people try to figure it out :rofl

Haha, I'll bet he does too.

I was feeling a bit berated from these three threads, so I thought I would find out:

http://www.gimpchat.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=254

http://www.gimpchat.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=10248

http://www.gimpchat.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=10256

I really didn't care what Wilber was, mind you, I just felt that GIMP.org knew what it was talking about. Turns out, it did.

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 Post subject: Re: What Is Wilber? SOLVED
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:12 am  (#4) 
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Wilber is what a Goat


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 Post subject: Re: What Is Wilber? SOLVED
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 4:25 am  (#5) 
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so maybe you guy's didn't get it,
Wilber is like me.

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 Post subject: Re: What Is Wilber? SOLVED
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 5:53 am  (#6) 
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OK, if this is the post of mine, that stay's on top the longest
then clearly i am doing something wrong, or maybe i have missed my calling
completely. Well what the hell, i think all the art work i have seen here is great
is great, and i have not read a bad post. Thank you for the excellent
education. GIMP CHAT is truly a remarkable website, and compared to
all other sites this is above the others.


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 Post subject: Re: What Is Wilber? SOLVED
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 5:58 am  (#7) 
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I got it Mike but I am still trying to figure out the four images. I can't seem to see any differences in them, probably because they aren't side by side.

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 Post subject: Re: What Is Wilber? SOLVED
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:06 am  (#8) 
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You're an old goat, got it, but why post the same photo 5 times? It was late last night when I posted this, so nobody to answer you.

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 Post subject: Re: What Is Wilber? SOLVED
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:46 am  (#9) 
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Thank you The Warrior, very cool of you tracking down the original designer. :2thup

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 Post subject: Re: What Is Wilber? SOLVED
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:29 am  (#10) 
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Warrior, nice to clear that up, I didn't think he was supposed to be any particular animal and I'm glad that it was just supposed to be the head, a body would just add to the animal confusion.

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 Post subject: Re: What Is Wilber? SOLVED
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:44 pm  (#11) 
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I'm a bit disappointed to find out that Wilber's own creator referred to Wilber as being a "joke".
This may also be part of the reason why Gimp isn't taken all that seriously. When it's own creators make light of what is now a mainstay of it's platform.
I'm not a "stick in the mud", but this lighthearted approach seems to perpetuate Gimp's stigma as a viable alternative to any other image manipulation software.
It's no wonder that some people laugh when you tell them that you use Gimp.

I don't feel that Wilber's overall appearance needs a change, but I do feel that Wilber as a mascot suffers form an "Identity Crisis". It's high time that this "crisis" should be over with, and Gimp/Wilber transform from adolescence and emergence into adulthood, with some kind of firm identity.

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 Post subject: Re: What Is Wilber? SOLVED
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:58 pm  (#12) 
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I completely disagree. Who doesn't take GIMP seriously, Photoshop users? So what?

And there's nothing at all wrong with lightheartedness. There is no "identity crisis." I think it odd you take that so seriously. He's a mascot that's a gimp, nothing wrong with that at all. To me, that's way more creative than making him a certain animal, etc. I think people take this way too seriously.

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 Post subject: Re: What Is Wilber? SOLVED
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:10 pm  (#13) 
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Odd, I thought Wilber was actually a specific breed of dog, but this proved me wrong. XD

I have to agree with The Warrior, and it's not the first time a creature was a "whatever", in Gonzo's own words on the Muppets. Goofy is no particular animal, Gonzo isn't, the Animaniacs aren't, and neither is Wilber. This is played for laughs in all the shows, where the characters themselves try to figure out what species their friend is.

So it's not uncreative. GIMP is merely taken lightly because of lacking specific features or ports of favorite plugins, and some people still hold their first impressions of GIMP at earlier stages of development against the program. GIMP's mascot is the least of its problems.

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 Post subject: Re: What Is Wilber? SOLVED
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:17 pm  (#14) 
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I agree, most people laugh at Gimp because it's free or lacks features that are taken for granted in Photoshop, like the transform tool or layer styles, not because of the mascot. Now those problems can be pretty easily fix with 3rd party plugins but the biggest drawback to taking it seriously is the lack of CMYK support. If 2.10 or 3.0 had that I bet a lot more people will respect the program and I'm sure a lot of businesses would switch to it instead worrying about Photoshop licenses.

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 Post subject: Re: What Is Wilber? SOLVED
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:21 pm  (#15) 
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I agree that Wilber should stay just the way he/she is. If you want to put a body on or clothes, fine. Just keep the original head that is part of Gimp. As far as I am concerned, Wilber is part of gimp with or without a body.

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 Post subject: Re: What Is Wilber? SOLVED
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:23 pm  (#16) 
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The Warrior wrote:
I completely disagree. Who doesn't take GIMP seriously, Photoshop users? So what?

And there's nothing at all wrong with lightheartedness. There is no "identity crisis." I think it odd you take that so seriously. He's a mascot that's a gimp, nothing wrong with that at all. To me, that's way more creative than making him a certain animal, etc. I think people take this way too seriously.

I'm not 100% with you on this point, given what my most recent post in this thread has explained.
I will nonetheless continue to use Gimp. Feeling as I do about Wilber and the association to Gimp that this has,
joke or not.

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 Post subject: Re: What Is Wilber? SOLVED
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:54 pm  (#17) 
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Wallace wrote:
I will nonetheless continue to use Gimp.

This is the main thing. Me too my friend, me too.

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 Post subject: Re: What Is Wilber? SOLVED
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:44 pm  (#18) 
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 Post subject: Re: What Is Wilber? SOLVED
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 4:33 pm  (#19) 
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Good one odin

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 Post subject: Re: What Is Wilber? SOLVED
PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:52 am  (#20) 
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molly wrote:
I agree that Wilber should stay just the way he/she is.
Wilber would be a funny name for a girl, haha. :hehe :mrgreen:

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