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 Post subject: Re: GIMP 2.8.12 Released (BROKEN) - GIMP 2.8.14 Released
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:29 am  (#91) 
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Rod wrote:
Well i am sticking with GIMP-2.8.10 for now. Unless Partha wants to share his compiled version. :lol
For sure 2.8.14 is still having library referencing problems. Python, icons and themes, and the PDB all seem to be broken in the windows 8 64 bit version still. I haven't heard any new release information from Gimp User website either so i assume it is still a problem?

Hey Rod,

Ummm, I did share my compiled version. :) It's on my website and announced here.

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 Post subject: Re: GIMP 2.8.12 Released (BROKEN) - GIMP 2.8.14 Released
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:21 am  (#92) 
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partha wrote:
Rod wrote:
Well i am sticking with GIMP-2.8.10 for now. Unless Partha wants to share his compiled version. :lol
For sure 2.8.14 is still having library referencing problems. Python, icons and themes, and the PDB all seem to be broken in the windows 8 64 bit version still. I haven't heard any new release information from Gimp User website either so i assume it is still a problem?

Hey Rod,

Ummm, I did share my compiled version. :) It's on my website and announced here.

Thanks,
Partha


I know and i am also grateful. :)
Installing on my desktop this time to see if that fixes the launch issue.

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 Post subject: Re: GIMP 2.8.12 Released (BROKEN) - GIMP 2.8.14 Released
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:43 am  (#93) 
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Still get an error dialog.

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It seems to be using my .gimp-2.8 user folder "splashes" directory so i am thinking i need to uninstall GIMP-2.8.12 for this to work.

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 Post subject: Re: GIMP 2.8.12 Released (BROKEN) - GIMP 2.8.14 Released
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:25 am  (#94) 
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Rod wrote:
... and the PDB all seem to be broken in the windows 8 64 bit version still. I haven't heard any new release information from Gimp User website either so i assume it is still a problem?


That error is fixed. Now. After the release. If that bug is not considered as very severe, the fixed version will be 2.8.16.


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 Post subject: Re: GIMP 2.8.12 Released (BROKEN) - GIMP 2.8.14 Released
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:35 am  (#95) 
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Rod wrote:
Still get an error dialog.

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It seems to be using my .gimp-2.8 user folder "splashes" directory so i am thinking i need to uninstall GIMP-2.8.12 for this to work.

Hi Rod,

I think I already responded on the other thread. In any case, my suggestion is to first back up your .gimp folder and delete it. Then restart my build and let me know if you get any errors. If yes, send me the report I mentioned. If not, then the culprit is in your .gimp folder.

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 Post subject: Re: GIMP 2.8.12 Released (BROKEN) - GIMP 2.8.14 Released
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:55 am  (#96) 
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Hi Partha!
Yes, deleting user profile folder solves the problem of start-up error.
Gimp loads. However, the paint tool, etc, as well as the selection tools show significant delay,
up to 2 seconds, at some point it seems to be not responsive at all, kinda.

P.S. but i'm gonna keep your build anyways, because it's so cool :)


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 Post subject: Re: GIMP 2.8.12 Released (BROKEN) - GIMP 2.8.14 Released
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:14 am  (#97) 
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Onkel Hatti wrote:
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If would think if there are binary packages released by the GIMP team, there should be at least one round of Beta testing before any "Official" releases are made.
Normally, no beta testing needed. The source is available for everybody.

Hi Hatti,

I'm not sure I follow what you're saying. Just to clarify, I was referring to beta testing any compiled (Windows) binary packages released by the GIMP team, not the source code. What is occurring right now is basically the kind of Beta testing of the binary packages I'm referring to. All this could be done prior to any "Official" release of compiled binary packages by the GIMP team.

The beta testing I'm suggesting would be for Windows binaries released by the GIMP team (and possibly MAC binaries, now that they are providing those as well).

The GIMP team would not be involved in beta testing Linux binaries because Linux binaries are usually compiled and released by GIMP package maintainers for each Linux distro. In Linux, all binaries are normally beta tested via testing repos before they are actually pushed to update repos. Unless or course you roll your own (or use a rolling distro).

For example, in Fedora, GIMP 2.8.14 is still sitting in the testing repos. It's being well tested by the Fedora "testers" before being pushed to the official update repos. I was thinking that a similar paradigm could implemented for the Windows community with a "Beta" release of the compiled Windows binaries.

If the GIMP team releases "Official" Windows binaries (without testing) and they're broken, they end up with egg on their faces. There are a lot more GIMP Windows users than Linux or MAC users. Approximately 70% of the traffic on this site are Windows users, with 20% using Linux and 10% using MAC.

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 Post subject: Re: GIMP 2.8.12 Released (BROKEN) - GIMP 2.8.14 Released
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:30 am  (#98) 
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K1TesseraEna wrote:
Hi Partha!
Yes, deleting user profile folder solves the problem of start-up error.
Gimp loads. However, the paint tool, etc, as well as the selection tools show significant delay,
up to 2 seconds, at some point it seems to be not responsive at all, kinda.

P.S. but i'm gonna keep your build anyways, because it's so cool :)

Thanks! :) I like the whole grayscale look - does not distract from your photo work.

I am concerned about "significant delay" though. :(

Just to test, I just used an old laptop (i5 with 6G RAM running Windows 7 Home Premium), and it was pretty spiffy if I may say so. I loaded a RAW image using UFRaw and used the paintbrush to paint on it.

Would you be able to provide some video of this?


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 Post subject: Re: GIMP 2.8.12 Released (BROKEN) - GIMP 2.8.14 Released
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:24 pm  (#99) 
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Does this mean windows users will be left on 2.8.10 until the next release as using stroke in scripts is very common

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 Post subject: Re: GIMP 2.8.12 Released (BROKEN) - GIMP 2.8.14 Released
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:38 pm  (#100) 
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As it turns out, none of my logo scripts use conventional stroking methods (i.e gimp-edit-stroke), so they are not affected by this issue. :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: GIMP 2.8.12 Released (BROKEN) - GIMP 2.8.14 Released
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:20 pm  (#101) 
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Duplicate the layer, color with stroke color, select and shrink by the stroke width. That's what I usually do. Produces better results on text anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: GIMP 2.8.12 Released (BROKEN) - GIMP 2.8.14 Released
PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:24 am  (#102) 
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Looks like the stroke bug has been fixed in the GIMP 2.8.x source.

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=721249#c14

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 Post subject: Re: GIMP 2.8.12 Released (BROKEN) - GIMP 2.8.14 Released
PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:57 am  (#103) 
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Great but I'm not that sure how long it will take for it to be Implemented in a portable that has a 32bit folder, now I'll have to wait
(sometimes when they fix one thing it breaks something else), Lyle taught me pessimism

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 Post subject: Re: GIMP 2.8.12 Released (BROKEN) - GIMP 2.8.14 Released
PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:16 am  (#104) 
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Great but I'm not that sure how long it will take for it to be Implemented in a portable that has a 32bit folder, now I'll have to wait
(sometimes when they fix one thing it breaks something else), Lyle taught me pessimism

Were you able to get a clean compile? If so, you can fix it yourself by removing the offending unref in gimpstrokeoptions.c and recompile.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.c ... ction=diff

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 Post subject: Re: GIMP 2.8.12/14 Released (update)
PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:31 am  (#105) 
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:bump

The installer has been updated but it looks like there are still some issues..

We have released an updated 2.8.14 installer for Microsoft Windows. This one fixes the crash on window resize and the missing icons bugs - all by updating the included GTK+ library to 2.24.24.

Still unsolved are the missing spacing character in the zoom drop down and the disappearing background on high zooms (updating the Pango and Cairo libraries that are didn't change anything there), investigations continue.

Please continue to report bugs, we can't fix what we don't know about.

http://www.gimp.org/

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 Post subject: Re: GIMP 2.8.12/14 Released (update)
PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:52 am  (#106) 
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have you tried using the same theme from 2.8.10, the default themes in 2.8.15 were a bit buggy

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 Post subject: Re: GIMP 2.8.12/14 Released (update)
PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:06 am  (#107) 
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It seems GIMP-2.8.15 no longer instantly updates the theme from Edit>Preferences>Themes. It updates on next start.

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 Post subject: Re: GIMP 2.8.12/14 Released (update)
PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:02 pm  (#108) 
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Are you guys referring to GIMP 2.8.14? The GIMP team is referring to this release as 2.8.14.

Only Samj is calling her packaged release V2.8.15.

This seems confusing to me. Shouldn't odd numbers refer to development versions and even numbers refer to stable releases? When there are maintenance releases or revisions to the stable version, shouldn't there just be another number added?

In GIMP 2.8.10, there several maintenance updates. In Fedora, new compiles/revisions are denoted as GIMP 2.8.10-1, 2.8.10-2 and so on. It seems to me this paradigm makes sense and helps keep track of exactly which version you have.

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the default themes ... were a bit buggy

You have confirmed that the missing characters in the size dropdown is also related to the theme in 2.8.14? That is good to know. :bigthup

Has anyone been able to duplicate the missing background problem on high zooms? There are screenshots of the problem in this bug report.

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 Post subject: Re: GIMP 2.8.12/14 Released (update)
PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:36 pm  (#109) 
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The installer has been updated but it looks like there are still some issues..

We have released an updated 2.8.14 installer for Microsoft Windows. This one fixes the crash on window resize and the missing icons bugs - all by updating the included GTK+ library to 2.24.24.

Still unsolved are the missing spacing character in the zoom drop down and the disappearing background on high zooms (updating the Pango and Cairo libraries that are didn't change anything there), investigations continue.

Please continue to report bugs, we can't fix what we don't know about.

http://www.gimp.org/


If I have understood it comes to the zoom button Image The interchange of libraries libpango-1.0-0.dll and libpangowin32-1.0-0.dll solves the problem.

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 Post subject: Re: GIMP 2.8.12/14 Released (update)
PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:22 pm  (#110) 
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GnuTux wrote:
Are you guys referring to GIMP 2.8.14? The GIMP team is referring to this release as 2.8.14.

Only Samj is calling her packaged release V2.8.15.

This seems confusing to me. Shouldn't odd numbers refer to development versions and even numbers refer to stable releases? When there are maintenance releases or revisions to the stable version, shouldn't there just be another number added?


That means, as i said before, that Samj compiled after the creating of the release.
So, in fact, it is a package made from the development Version.
The GIMP Team did not make a new release. They just made another package with other third party libraries.
If they made a new release, its name would be 2.8.16.

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Has anyone been able to duplicate the missing background problem on high zooms? There are screenshots of the problem in this bug report.


Yes. open an Image, add transparency and zoom it to grotesque 4000%. The transparency vanishes.

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