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 Post subject: gimp 2.10.36 appimages with python and mathmap for linux
PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2023 1:22 am  (#1) 
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This Gimp version is part of Ubuntu 24.04 'Noble' LTS to be released in April 2024. The apt package is already available and from that we make the AppImages.

I uploaded them to my github page.

Tested on Ubuntu 22.04 and MX Linux 23.1.

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 Post subject: Re: gimp 2.10.36 appimages with python and mathmap for linux
PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2023 5:55 am  (#2) 
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Sweet.... Thanks for this Tas. It works great here in LM 21.2, which is based on Ubuntu 22.04 jammy.


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 Post subject: Re: gimp 2.10.36 appimages with python and mathmap for linux
PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 3:52 pm  (#3) 
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Hi racer-x Thanks for your positive feedback. Below is an investigation of Gimp in Linux that you maybe interested in.
:alnbot :alnbot
vitforlinux I'm glad it's working on Antix. I was contacted by ivan-hc from Vesuvius on github who makes Gimp and other apps using the Arch Linux method.
Ivan has not been able to get python2 working in his Gimp appimages. I made a python2 'drop-in tree' and uploaded it to github. I'm hoping he can use it.

Gimp in Linux today.
On Ubuntu Gimp is available as a deb pack, flatpack, snap file and appimages.
Gimp flatpacks are made by the Gimp development team and are how they distribute Gimp for Linux. I've looked inside them and the flatpack method is interesting if a bit slow. They have everything a Gimp user needs because they are the real deal.

Snaps (Snapcrafters and the Snap shop) are initiatives of the Ubuntu development team. They are actually AppImages also using the Rockridge filesystem. Their advantage over appimages is that they are signed and partially secured. I recently made one that can be installed.
When the Gimp snap is installed it becomes the default Gimp. Typing 'Gimp' into a terminal opens it. Because Ubuntu owners Canonical like progress they dropped python2 years ago and it's not in their Gimp snap or debs.

Canonical really like snaps and in 2024 are releasing an operating system for devices made entirely from snaps. Contrary to what most of us think they are fast but they are also bloated with the unpacked Gimp at around 1.3Gbs. Canonical are absolutely right to secure snaps because its just a matter of time before somebody loads an appimage with malware. Getting appimages from github is quite safe because MS would kick them off fast :)

Debian apt packages are still the heart of the operating systems based around Debian. They are cool to make and for appimages they provide all the dependencies. But the dependencies have dependencies and often they are not needed. 'Thinning' was the time consuming part of building an appimage for me.

The Arch Linux method of making appimages uses the Arch pacman system to resolve dependencies. The big advantage of appimages and snaps is they preserve the symbolic links (symlinks) that old plugins need to run on newer systems. Arch appimages can put newer software on older operating systems which is good. I don't worry about it because I found everybody wants the latest and greatest. :) I prefer making art than making tools to make art but somebody has to do it.


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 Post subject: Re: gimp 2.10.36 appimages with python and mathmap for linux
PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:22 pm  (#4) 
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if math map can be ran inside a cli outside of Gimp it can be ported to Liam's new GEGL bash plugin that can call any bash command in GEGL


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 Post subject: Re: gimp 2.10.36 appimages with python and mathmap for linux
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:33 pm  (#5) 
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Tas_mania wrote:
Hi racer-x Thanks for your positive feedback. Below is an investigation of Gimp in Linux that you maybe interested in.
:alnbot :alnbot
vitforlinux I'm glad it's working on Antix. I was contacted by ivan-hc from Vesuvius on github who makes Gimp and other apps using the Arch Linux method.
Ivan has not been able to get python2 working in his Gimp appimages. I made a python2 'drop-in tree' and uploaded it to github. I'm hoping he can use it.

Gimp in Linux today.
On Ubuntu Gimp is available as a deb pack, flatpack, snap file and appimages.
Gimp flatpacks are made by the Gimp development team and are how they distribute Gimp for Linux. I've looked inside them and the flatpack method is interesting if a bit slow. They have everything a Gimp user needs because they are the real deal.

Snaps (Snapcrafters and the Snap shop) are initiatives of the Ubuntu development team. They are actually AppImages also using the Rockridge filesystem. Their advantage over appimages is that they are signed and partially secured. I recently made one that can be installed.
When the Gimp snap is installed it becomes the default Gimp. Typing 'Gimp' into a terminal opens it. Because Ubuntu owners Canonical like progress they dropped python2 years ago and it's not in their Gimp snap or debs.

Canonical really like snaps and in 2024 are releasing an operating system for devices made entirely from snaps. Contrary to what most of us think they are fast but they are also bloated with the unpacked Gimp at around 1.3Gbs. Canonical are absolutely right to secure snaps because its just a matter of time before somebody loads an appimage with malware. Getting appimages from github is quite safe because MS would kick them off fast :)

Debian apt packages are still the heart of the operating systems based around Debian. They are cool to make and for appimages they provide all the dependencies. But the dependencies have dependencies and often they are not needed. 'Thinning' was the time consuming part of building an appimage for me.

The Arch Linux method of making appimages uses the Arch pacman system to resolve dependencies. The big advantage of appimages and snaps is they preserve the symbolic links (symlinks) that old plugins need to run on newer systems. Arch appimages can put newer software on older operating systems which is good. I don't worry about it because I found everybody wants the latest and greatest. :) I prefer making art than making tools to make art but somebody has to do it.



Hi, is there therefore the possibility of using mathmap on a flatpak version as in my case? Thank you


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 Post subject: Re: gimp 2.10.36 appimages with python and mathmap for linux
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 4:38 pm  (#6) 
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if math map can be ran inside a cli


Sorry the cli version was never finished.

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Hi, is there therefore the possibility of using mathmap on a flatpak version as in my case? Thank you


I'm not interested in doing that.


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