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Author:  level_0 [ Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:19 am ]
Post subject:  how do I make seamless patterns

GIMP Version: 2.10.14
Operating System: Windows
GIMP Experience: New User



:wvy
Here:
https://docs.gimp.org/2.10/en/gimp-conc ... terns.html
I read:
you can find this patterns in the menu bar, through File → Create → Patterns.

I have'nt this in my Gimp:
Image

Author:  Konstantin [ Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: File / Create / Patterns

I have it in 2.8, but not in 2.10.

Author:  level_0 [ Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: File / Create / Patterns

Konstantin wrote:
I have it in 2.8, but not in 2.10.


Konstantin :wvy
I'm looking for how to create my own seamless textures and I can only find old tutorials that don't match Gimp 2.10.14 Image

Author:  Konstantin [ Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: File / Create / Patterns

level_0 wrote:
Konstantin :wvy
I'm looking for how to create my own seamless textures and I can only find old tutorials that don't match Gimp 2.10.14 [ Image ]
You mean a seamless pattern ?

Many ways to do that and not really dependent on a specific verison of Gimp.

The most obvious is using the offset dialogue and the clone tool. But the results arent always that great.

Another way is using the Resynthesizer plug-in, which will generate a software generated seamless texture.
Also possible with G'MIC.

You can also use a manual technique, if you have a pattern with single elements that are not connected.
All you have to do is offset a duplicate of the element by the tilesize.

We need more information/an example on what pattern you want to make seamless.

Author:  rich2005 [ Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: File / Create / Patterns

Quote:
....you can find this patterns in the menu bar, through File → Create → Patterns.


Removed from Gimp 2.10 because, some not working and come from a different era when images were smaller / simpler.

You can get them here https://github.com/GNOME/gimp-data-extr ... er/scripts looks like

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Depending on web browser / OS there can be snags downloading. If you get something with line numbers, right click on RAW and try a Save-as

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A couple in Gimp 2.10

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Author:  level_0 [ Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: File / Create / Patterns

Thank you Konstantin and rich2005

I haven't started anything yet.
I first wanted to find all the methods to test them. :)
EDIT:
And that's why I searched on the internet and found only useless info.
EDIT 2:
I also looked in the G'Mic filters, tried it out but did not succeed.
EDIT 3:
on the Esper website:
https://gimp-science-labs.blogspot.com/ ... -plug.html

Author:  Konstantin [ Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: File / Create / Patterns

level_0 wrote:
EDIT 2:
I also looked in the G'Mic filters, tried it out but did not succeed.

G'MIC has two filter under the Pattern category.
Resynthesize Texture [FFT] is for micropatterns.
You only use a small image and make it into a larger texture.
Useful for stuff that is more noisy and abstract, than pretty or decorative.

Author:  Konstantin [ Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: File / Create / Patterns

The offset method.

This is our hypothetical pattern:

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Now you go to Layer -> Transform - > Offset and use the "Offset by x/2, y/2 button".
After that it looks like this, and you know where you need to paint some more to make it seamless.

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This is what it looks like after i did more work.

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And finally the new seamless pattern (scaled down)

Author:  Konstantin [ Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: File / Create / Patterns

final pattern

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Author:  level_0 [ Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: File / Create / Patterns

Thank you Konstantin
I will try all of this! :)

Author:  rich2005 [ Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: File / Create / Patterns

level_0 wrote:
Thank you Konstantin and rich2005

I haven't started anything yet.
I first wanted to find all the methods to test them. :)
EDIT:
And that's why I searched on the internet and found only useless info.
EDIT 2:
I also looked in the G'Mic filters, tried it out but did not succeed.
EDIT 3:
on the Esper website:
https://gimp-science-labs.blogspot.com/ ... -plug.html


That was not your question which was: " you can find this patterns in the menu bar, through File → Create → Patterns." which are old scripts from pre-Gimp 2.10 ;)

A better question would be "how do I make seamless patterns."

And in gimp 2.10 you could use
symmetry painting or
Layer -> Transform -> Offset or
Filters -> Map -> Tile Seamless

and not least if you have resynthesizer plugin installed, from a lenna image

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tile-able both horizontally and vertically.

Author:  Konstantin [ Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: File / Create / Patterns

ofnuts seamless helper for stamp based patterns:

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7825

Author:  level_0 [ Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: how do I make seamless patterns

Yes rich2005,that's right, :) but that was the explanation of the outcome of my research.And I did not want to open another thread. (Title changed) ;)

I just saw that I had not delivered the 2 filters "resynthesizer.exe" and "resynthesizer-gui.exe" in the profile Gimp after version change.

thank you again to both of you :hugme .You have given me a lot of leads to work. :)
I am doing a break now because I have not eaten since yesterday i.e 21h ...

Author:  Konstantin [ Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: how do I make seamless patterns

Came up with a much better technique for seamless stamp based patterns, utilizing Gimp 2.10's symmetry painting feature.
Its far superior to the offset technique mentioned earlier.

Just make your canvas twice as big as the intended final pattern. Activate symmetry painting with the tiling feature.
Add guides at 50% horizontal and vertical and paint inside the upper left quadrant.
When you're happy, crop the image to a quarter and export as a .pat file.

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Author:  level_0 [ Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: how do I make seamless patterns

Thank you Konstantin :tyspin
My tests with Filters / Transform / offset were not great, (level -10), so I'm going to go towards this last method instead. :)

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