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 Post subject: Re: New Install, User Folder Help
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:16 pm  (#11) 
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I only copied over the ones I installed. Another thing, is when I exit it out of GIMP, it asks me if I want to discard changes, and when I hit "discard changes", the whole program shuts down. On my 2.6, and 2.8 portable, when I hit discard changes, it got rid of what I was doing, but the program didn't exit until I exited out.

EDIT: Dang, this is gonna take awhile remembering everything, haha. Mathmap is another one I forgot about.

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 Post subject: Re: New Install, User Folder Help
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:43 pm  (#12) 
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I don't have a specific option to "Discard Changes" but if I click the X in the upper right corner, directing GIMP to close (exit), it will ask if I'd like to discard changes (if I have not saved the xcf).

I believe this is the proper behavior, because I directed GIMP to close.

I normally use Ctrl-w to close the view (current image tab) and Ctrl-Shif-w to close all tabs, without exiting GIMP. This can be done from the File menu, as well.

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 Post subject: Re: New Install, User Folder Help
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:46 pm  (#13) 
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GnuTux wrote:
I don't have a specific option to "Discard Changes" but if I click the X in the upper right corner, directing GIMP to close (exit), it will ask if I'd like to discard changes (if I have not saved the xcf).

I believe this is the proper behavior, because I directed GIMP to close.

I normally use Ctrl-w to close the view (current image tab) and Ctrl-Shif-w to close all tabs, without exiting GIMP.

That's what I mean, hit the x first, then discard changes. I believe on my 2.6, when I hit the x, it asked me if I wanted to save changes, and when I hit no, it would get rid of my project, but not exit the program. On my 2.8 portable, I hit the x, then discard changes, and the project goes away, but I have to hit the x again to exit out. Not so with this version.

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 Post subject: Re: New Install, User Folder Help
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:49 pm  (#14) 
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Yes, but if you hit the X, telling GIMP to close and then you OK the discard changes question, you shouldn't have to hit X again, right?

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 Post subject: Re: New Install, User Folder Help
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:54 pm  (#15) 
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GnuTux wrote:
Yes, but if you hit the X, telling GIMP to close and then you OK the discard changes question, you shouldn't have to hit X again, right?.

No, that's the point. Perhaps that's the way it should work, but my others, I had to hit the x again to actually exit the program. Not a big deal, just not what I'm used to.

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 Post subject: Re: New Install, User Folder Help
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:56 pm  (#16) 
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That is exactly my point. It might not have worked that way in a previous version, but this is the way it should work.

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 Post subject: Re: New Install, User Folder Help
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:00 pm  (#17) 
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GnuTux wrote:
That is exactly my point. It might not have worked that way in a previous version, but this is the way it should work.

Didn't know it was supposed to work like that, since the last 2 versions I used didn't. I still have the portable 2.8.4, works like I described.

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 Post subject: Re: New Install, User Folder Help
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:05 pm  (#18) 
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Well, to me, it only makes sense to work like it does in V2.8.10.. If I tell a program to close, then it asks if I want to discard the changes and I say yes, it should close. I shouldn't have to tell it to close again.

I'm not disagreeing with you on the behavior of previous GIMP versions. I'm just saying that in my opinion, the way it works now is the correct way for it work.

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 Post subject: Re: New Install, User Folder Help
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:12 pm  (#19) 
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Just curious are you using single or multi-window mode?
You might want to check out the what's new.
From: Gimp 2.8 What's New wrote:
New file save workflow.
Now Save and Save as work only with xcf formats. If you want to export an image in another format, say jpg or png, you have to explicitly Export it. This enhances the workflow and lets you simply overwrite the original file or export to various other formats.

and, In multi-window mode, you can now close the Toolbox without quitting GIMP.

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 Post subject: Re: New Install, User Folder Help
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:21 pm  (#20) 
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GnuTux wrote:
Well, to me, it only makes sense to work like it does in V2.8.10.. If I tell a program to close, then it asks if I want to discard the changes and I say yes, it should close. I shouldn't have to tell it to close again.

I'm not disagreeing with you on the behavior of previous GIMP versions. I'm just saying that in my opinion, the way it works now is the correct way for it work.

Warrior wants to be able to close an image without closing the program but he can't. When he closes the image without saving the changes, the whole program closes. I don't believe that is how it is supposed to work because you might want to start a new image and most programs don't work this way either. With most programs you can close your present work without closing the whole program.


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 Post subject: Re: New Install, User Folder Help
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:24 pm  (#21) 
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Erisian wrote:
Warrior wants to be able to close an image without closing the program but he can't. When he closes the image without saving the changes, the whole program closes. I don't believe that is how it is supposed to work.

See my response here.

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 Post subject: Re: New Install, User Folder Help
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:28 pm  (#22) 
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GnuTux wrote:
Erisian wrote:
Warrior wants to be able to close an image without closing the program but he can't. When he closes the image without saving the changes, the whole program closes. I don't believe that is how it is supposed to work.

See my response here.

I saw your response and I didn't agree with it. When you click that X you are just directing the software to close that project. Actually most software has 2 X buttons, one for the software and one for the project. It's silly having software that won't allow you to close the project without closing the software.


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 Post subject: Re: New Install, User Folder Help
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:32 pm  (#23) 
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Erisian wrote:
I saw your response and I didn't agree with it. When you click that X you are just directing the software to close that project. Actually most software has 2 X buttons, one for the software and one for the project. It's silly having software that won't allow you to close the project without closing the software.

You need to read my response again. I clearly spelled out how to do exactly that in GIMP 2.8.10..

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 Post subject: Re: New Install, User Folder Help
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:53 pm  (#24) 
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GnuTux wrote:
You need to read my response again. I clearly spelled out how to do exactly that in GIMP 2.8.10..

Oops my apologies. I read it a few times but it didn't register until now. I think I have a mental block towards learning shortcut keys because it's too easy to use the mouse. Perhaps they should introduce an extra X for closing the image if this change is by design and not a bug.


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 Post subject: Re: New Install, User Folder Help
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:16 pm  (#25) 
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It's not a bug. That behavior was changed in GIMP 2.8.6.

What's new in The Gimp 2.8.6: June 22nd, 2013

GUI:
Don't allow single-window docks to shrink smaller than their requisition
Make sure a single-window's right docks keep their size across sessions
Allow to change the spacing of non-generated brushes again
In single-window mode, make Escape move the focus to the canvas, and beep if the focus is already there
Be smarter about unavailable fonts, and don't crash
Make clicking the single-window's close button quit GIMP
Make view-close (Ctrl+W) only close image windows and tabs, not docks

Of course, it only makes sense in Single Window mode. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: New Install, User Folder Help
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:29 pm  (#26) 
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Odinbc wrote:
Just curious are you using single or multi-window mode?
You might want to check out the what's new.
From: Gimp 2.8 What's New wrote:
New file save workflow.
Now Save and Save as work only with xcf formats. If you want to export an image in another format, say jpg or png, you have to explicitly Export it. This enhances the workflow and lets you simply overwrite the original file or export to various other formats.

and, In multi-window mode, you can now close the Toolbox without quitting GIMP.



GnuTux wrote:
It's not a bug. That behavior was changed in GIMP 2.8.6.

What's new in The Gimp 2.8.6: June 22nd, 2013

GUI:
Don't allow single-window docks to shrink smaller than their requisition
Make sure a single-window's right docks keep their size across sessions
Allow to change the spacing of non-generated brushes again
In single-window mode, make Escape move the focus to the canvas, and beep if the focus is already there
Be smarter about unavailable fonts, and don't crash
Make clicking the single-window's close button quit GIMP
Make view-close (Ctrl+W) only close image windows and tabs, not docks

Of course, it only makes sense in Single Window mode. ;)


I should have read better. I'm not used to having the single-window mode.

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 Post subject: Re: New Install, User Folder Help
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:17 pm  (#27) 
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EDIT: N/M, I figured it out. Installed Mathmap.

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 Post subject: Re: New Install, User Folder Help
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:20 am  (#28) 
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The Warrior wrote:
I should have read better.

Likewise. When I rush through threads my brain picks out what it thinks I need to know and filters out the rest, then I miss important details. :hehe


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 Post subject: Re: New Install, User Folder Help
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:46 am  (#29) 
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Me too Eris...

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 Post subject: Re: New Install, User Folder Help
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:46 am  (#30) 
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Erisian wrote:
The Warrior wrote:
I should have read better.

Likewise. When I rush through threads my brain picks out what it thinks I need to know and filters out the rest, then I miss important details. :hehe

Haha, I hear that, especially after doing a fresh install, and having all that stuff on my mind.

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