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 Post subject: Outline for Scanned Drawing
PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:54 am  (#1) 
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I wanted to color the sketches with GIMP but I was too hard to get an actual outline. What I wanted to do was to get outlines of the drawing as guides for the color but the Wand Tool is too sensitive and it even selected the deepness of the drawing and some sketchmarks. I drew this in paper (the image attached is not really mine) but it looks like it when drawn in a piece of paper. I did make some larger more bolder marks to the drawn and traced it with another paper but it does not seem easy to do. I tried adjust the composite and threshold but I can't get the outline. I tried tracing it but there are too many curves and spikes and it was a pain to do. I need to get the speed because I have to draw a lot of them, that's part of a project.

This is not the image but its here to give you an idea. Rembrant's Lion :paint

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 Post subject: Re: Outline for Scanned Drawing
PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:35 am  (#2) 
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If I've understood your question, this is my best attempt to convert the above image into some sort of lineart.

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Here is a quick overview of the workflow used

Colours>Destaturate>Luminosity
Duplicate Layer
On new Layer
Filters>Blur>Gausians Blur and set to 5px
Colour>Invert
Set Layer to Dodge.
Layers>Merge Down
Filters>Gmic>Artistic>Dream Smoothing
Uncheck "Equalise at each Step" and set Itteraions to 10.
Colours>Threshold and drag the left slider (Black pointer) across, until the left numerical box reads about 230.
Filters>Blur>Gausians Blur and set to 1px

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 Post subject: Re: Outline for Scanned Drawing
PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:56 am  (#3) 
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he4rty - Thank you to show the flow, you save my day!
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 Post subject: Re: Outline for Scanned Drawing
PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:49 pm  (#4) 
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An alternative method would be to Desaturate with Luminosity as did he4rty, but in this case adjusting Color Curves and doing a Color To Alpha on the white.

Desaturation...
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Curves Adjustment...
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Color To Alpha...
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Final Workable Image...
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This method will retain most of the image details.

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 Post subject: Re: Outline for Scanned Drawing
PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:25 pm  (#5) 
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Very nice flow he4rty; used it and a blending of India Ink for the result (for filler mainly). :)


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 Post subject: Re: Outline for Scanned Drawing
PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:28 pm  (#6) 
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I think I used levels to get it black and white and bring out the lines. As we all know, more than one way....


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 Post subject: Re: Outline for Scanned Drawing
PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:42 am  (#7) 
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Wallace wrote:
An alternative method would be to Desaturate with Luminosity as did he4rty, but in this case adjusting Color Curves and doing a Color To Alpha on the white.

Desaturation...
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Curves Adjustment...
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Color To Alpha...
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Final Workable Image...
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This method will retain most of the image details.

Thanks guys. Can you also tell me how to create a new layer from selection?

I used the Wand for the hair and I want that to be in a new selection. I don't want to duplicate the whole thing just the hair in a new layer.


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 Post subject: Re: Outline for Scanned Drawing
PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:49 am  (#8) 
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Step 2 to 7 is the same as Edge-Detect>Difference of Guassians and set Radius1 5 px, Radius2 0 px


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 Post subject: Re: Outline for Scanned Drawing
PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:02 am  (#9) 
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Kenlee20 wrote:
Thanks guys. Can you also tell me how to create a new layer from selection?

I used the Wand for the hair and I want that to be in a new selection. I don't want to duplicate the whole thing just the hair in a new layer.

I'm guessing when you say "hair", you mean the lion's mane?
You can't create a new layer from a selection. You can only copy or cut what you have selected and paste that into a newly created layer.
Why do you want the hair/mane on a new layer?
If you want to color this part of the image separately from the rest, just create a new layer that you can use for coloring the hair.

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 Post subject: Re: Outline for Scanned Drawing
PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:02 am  (#10) 
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I managed to work the image the way you did and I can't proceed with he4ty's tut because I can't see the G'Mic thing in here.

I need to color them separately. I'd like to use the Wand Tool to select the hair (mane for example) and import it as a separate layer so I can easily color them.

How do you make sure that all is in the same color? The image still has some shades with it. I can't see what the dream-color was so I guess its something you download? But due to the slow internet connection we have here it does not go as fast as desired. That's why I use the Want to select and color each to avoid separate shading.


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 Post subject: Re: Outline for Scanned Drawing
PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:59 am  (#11) 
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Kenlee20 wrote:
I managed to work the image the way you did and I can't proceed with he4ty's tut because I can't see the G'Mic thing in here.

I need to color them separately. I'd like to use the Wand Tool to select the hair (mane for example) and import it as a separate layer so I can easily color them.

How do you make sure that all is in the same color? The image still has some shades with it. I can't see what the dream-color was so I guess its something you download? But due to the slow internet connection we have here it does not go as fast as desired. That's why I use the Want to select and color each to avoid separate shading.


What I suggested does not include using G'Mic. I'm also not entirely sure what you're asking.

If you wish to remove some of the shading that is in the image, you can use Color>Levels to adjust the image as you see fit.
The levels adjustment is done prior to the Alpha to Color of the white. Once you have adjusted the levels you can do the Alpha to Color of the white.

Here's an example of Levels before doing the Alpha to Color of the white...

Before using Levels
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After using Levels
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I would also suggest that you use the Free Selection Tool :freesel to make a selection of the lion's mane. Cut the selection and paste it into a newly created layer as seen below.

Free selection cut
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Free selectio pasted into new layer
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 Post subject: Re: Outline for Scanned Drawing
PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:26 am  (#12) 
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Thanks you.


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 Post subject: Re: Outline for Scanned Drawing
PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:49 am  (#13) 
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Kenlee20 wrote:
Thanks you.

No problem. :bigthup

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 Post subject: Re: Outline for Scanned Drawing
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:51 am  (#14) 
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Is there anyway to make this into a plug-in so its a lot easier to make the outlines?


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 Post subject: Re: Outline for Scanned Drawing
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:39 am  (#15) 
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You could probably also try the 'edge detect' filter after desaturating

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 Post subject: Re: Outline for Scanned Drawing
PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:30 am  (#16) 
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Its something that Laplace does but it turned the image more black. It still has the blur thingy.


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