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 Post subject: Trying to combine two gifs together
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 5:45 am  (#1) 
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So I'm trying to combine two gifs together by layering one on top of the other. I want to delete the background to the top gif so it looks like it's standing in the background of the bottom gif. How can I delete the background?

Also, would these same steps go for cutting out the background so I can use the gif in a video? I saw some youtube videos of 'shipping' where they made cinderella look like she was standing next to prince eric.

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 Post subject: Re: Trying to combine two gifs together
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 6:44 am  (#2) 
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If it's anything I have the program GIMP 2.

I'm trying to make a banner for a message board rp

*adjusts glasses* 'Cause you know. I'm a geek >.> *cough*

I want to make it look like Nina Dobrev is standing in front of a thunder storm by dropping her pink background and still have both gifs move. I got it to the point where I could take out the background but when nina moved I could see each frame and the lightning didn't move at all :/ what am I missing?


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to combine two gifs together
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 1:06 pm  (#3) 
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Combining gif images can sometimes be tricky.
Setting the correct disposal for each frame can often be a trial and error process.

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 Post subject: Re: Trying to combine two gifs together
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 2:34 pm  (#4) 
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P-Chan wrote:
If it's anything I have the program GIMP 2.

I'm trying to make a banner for a message board rp

*adjusts glasses* 'Cause you know. I'm a geek >.> *cough*

I want to make it look like Nina Dobrev is standing in front of a thunder storm by dropping her pink background and still have both gifs move. I got it to the point where I could take out the background but when nina moved I could see each frame and the lightning didn't move at all :/ what am I missing?


You have to overlay the frames of the thunderstorm with the frames with Nina Dobrev. This means an equal number of each. There are scripts/plugins for this, GAP or my own interleave-layers.

The tough part is extracing ND from her existing background, but if its always the same color this won't be too difficult. Since the result is moving you don't need to be too accurate.

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 Post subject: Re: Trying to combine two gifs together
PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 9:56 am  (#5) 
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I really appreciate all the help you guys gave me ^-^ if it's not too much trouble I have another question.

I took this gif and colored the background of each layer green because I wanted to use the green screen effect in a video editor - adobe premier elements 14. I was trying to layer it over a video clip so it looks like this girl is moving in front of a scene going on behind her but in every few frames the girl turns white except her outline. How do I fix this so it goes smoothly? :/


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to combine two gifs together
PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 12:03 pm  (#6) 
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P-Chan wrote:
I really appreciate all the help you guys gave me ^-^ if it's not too much trouble I have another question.

I took this gif and colored the background of each layer green because I wanted to use the green screen effect in a video editor - adobe premier elements 14. I was trying to layer it over a video clip so it looks like this girl is moving in front of a scene going on behind her but in every few frames the girl turns white except her outline. How do I fix this so it goes smoothly? :/

Trying to give advice on this issue.
Would be difficult at best, without seeing the animation or examining the file.
There could be any number of issues with it.
If the gif image was Optimized for the Web,
this could cause issues when combining it with other images.
I also don't understand why you colored the background of each layer.
This doesn't seem to necessary, when gif image retain transparency.

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 Post subject: Re: Trying to combine two gifs together
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 1:54 am  (#7) 
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I tried to show it before but the site says the post looks too spammy. Thought I had to color the background to get it to work >.>. Still pretty new with this kind of thing.


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to combine two gifs together
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 7:27 am  (#8) 
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P-Chan wrote:
I tried to show it before but the site says the post looks too spammy.
Thought I had to color the background to get it to work >.>.
Still pretty new with this kind of thing.

You need to make 5 post,
before you can upload images,
or add links to your posts.

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 Post subject: Re: Trying to combine two gifs together
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 7:48 am  (#9) 
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Oh that's right >. < I forgot! Seriously though thank you for helping me out so far.


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to combine two gifs together
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 8:46 am  (#10) 
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 Post subject: Re: Trying to combine two gifs together
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 10:15 am  (#11) 
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The gif file you uploaded is damaged.
I opened it up with Gimp and the girl in the image needs much repair.
Many pixels are missing.
Did you save the original file,
before adding the green background?

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 Post subject: Re: Trying to combine two gifs together
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 10:43 am  (#12) 
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Yup. That's odd. I wonder I did o.O


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to combine two gifs together
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 11:01 am  (#13) 
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P-Chan wrote:
Yup. That's odd. I wonder I did o.O

I believe that the damage most likely occurred during the save process of the gif file.

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 Post subject: Re: Trying to combine two gifs together
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 11:12 am  (#14) 
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Sounds possible. I did some research on google. When I saved, I saved it as 'gif' 'animation' with a frame discard thing instead of 'I don't care'.


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to combine two gifs together
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 11:22 am  (#15) 
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P-Chan wrote:
Sounds possible.
I did some research on google.
When I saved,
I saved it as 'gif' 'animation' with a frame discard thing instead of 'I don't care'.

Did you save the gif image using Gimp?

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 Post subject: Re: Trying to combine two gifs together
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 11:58 am  (#16) 
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Yeah >.>


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to combine two gifs together
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 12:04 pm  (#17) 
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For quick repairs - You can use:
A GIF Movie Modifier
http://registry.gimp.org/node/26069


Attachments:
AGM.gif
AGM.gif [ 311.87 KiB | Viewed 1350 times ]

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 Post subject: Re: Trying to combine two gifs together
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 12:59 pm  (#18) 
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MareroQ wrote:
For quick repairs - You can use:
A GIF Movie Modifier
http://registry.gimp.org/node/26069


Damn ...and I did it the hard way ;)

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..So I'm trying to combine two gifs together by layering one on top of the other...
and
When I saved, I saved it as 'gif' 'animation' with a frame discard thing instead of 'I don't care'...


My guess is:

The two gifs were already optimised, although I could be wrong on that.

Really a link to the 2 gif's will get a better answer, but it is possible to reverse edit the gif to a certain extent.

You should have tried for an image in RGB mode with solid layers. Then when all editing finished export as a gif with settings - One frame per layer (replace). That gives a file size of about 3 MB

Attachment:
make-gif-1.jpg
make-gif-1.jpg [ 78.47 KiB | Viewed 1346 times ]


Once you have that, and if needed, open that gif and Filters -> Animation -> Optimise (for gif) to reduce the file size to about 2 MB. This time use the setting Cumulative Layers (combine)

Attachment:
make-gif-2.jpg
make-gif-2.jpg [ 91.13 KiB | Viewed 1346 times ]


scaled down to give a sensible file size for here.

Attachment:
small-opt.gif
small-opt.gif [ 734.66 KiB | Viewed 1346 times ]


Have to confess, not really into animations although I used to do a bit of video work. About 15 years since I used Premiere, swore off it then, hope it has improved.

best of luck

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 Post subject: Re: Trying to combine two gifs together
PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:24 am  (#19) 
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You guys are amazing! ♡ Thank you so much!

I personally haven't have problems with it, but I'm just starting out. We'll see how it goes. I'll follow your advice and try this out. If it works I'll post it and show you guys.


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to combine two gifs together
PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:15 am  (#20) 
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There is one thing I noticed though. If you watch her hair when she looks over her shoulder to glare at the camera there is a delay with her hair. How do I fix that? 0.o


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