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 Post subject: Template weirdness[SOLVED]
PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:47 pm  (#1) 
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Why is that when I create a template from a new image then open the template later the only thing the template saves is the canvas size? My default image is transparent background, but templates always open with a white background and no alpha channel.

On a related note, how do I change the default font?

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 Post subject: Re: Template weirdness
PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:31 pm  (#2) 
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Sasquatch wrote:
GIMP Version: 2.8.14
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Why is that when I create a template from a new image then open the template later the only thing the template saves is the canvas size? My default image is transparent background, but templates always open with a white background and no alpha channel.

On a related note, how do I change the default font?

Not sure about the template,
but if you change the font with the Text Tool,
then go to Edit > Preferences > Tool Options.
Click on Save Tool Options On Exit.
This will save the selected font and also saves any current tool option settings.

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 Post subject: Re: Template weirdness
PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:37 pm  (#3) 
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Wallace wrote:
Not sure about the template,
but if you change the font with the Text Tool,
then go to Edit > Preferences > Tool Options.
Click on Save Tool Options On Exit.
This will save the selected font and also saves any current tool option settings.

Thanks for that. It's so aggravating seeing "Sans Bold" pop up every time when I never use that font.

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 Post subject: Re: Template weirdness
PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:41 pm  (#4) 
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Sasquatch wrote:
Thanks for that.
It's so aggravating seeing "Sans Bold" pop up every time when I never use that font.

I hear ya.
Use to bother me as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Template weirdness
PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:44 pm  (#5) 
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I guess that trick will also let me change the default brush dynamics as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Template weirdness
PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:51 pm  (#6) 
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Sasquatch wrote:
I guess that trick will also let me change the default brush dynamics as well.

Yeah...
It'll save whatever any of your tool options are set to when you exit.

By the by,
in Edit > Preferences > Tool Options.
It should say, Save Tool Options On Exit.

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 Post subject: Re: Template weirdness
PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:07 pm  (#7) 
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Wallace wrote:
By the by,
in Edit > Preferences > Tool Options.
It should say, Save Tool Options On Exit.[/font]

I'd hate to use that. That would mean it would open up each time with whatever I had set last time. Which could be any sort of goofiness. I'd much rather have it open the same every time and then commence the goofiness.

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 Post subject: Re: Template weirdness
PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:11 pm  (#8) 
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Sasquatch wrote:
Why is that when I create a template from a new image then open the template later the only thing the template saves is the canvas size? My default image is transparent background, but templates always open with a white background and no alpha channel.

On a related note, how do I change the default font?
At the bottom of the Edit Template Dialog open the Advanced options.
Fill with: Transparent. This automatically has an Alpha Channel.

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 Post subject: Re: Template weirdness
PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:23 pm  (#9) 
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How did I miss that? Thanks. Now I just have to open and edit 347562 templates. Or something close to that. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Template weirdness
PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:17 am  (#10) 
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Odinbc wrote:
Sasquatch wrote:
Why is that when I create a template from a new image then open the template later the only thing the template saves is the canvas size? My default image is transparent background, but templates always open with a white background and no alpha channel.

On a related note, how do I change the default font?
At the bottom of the Edit Template Dialog open the Advanced options.
Fill with: Transparent. This automatically has an Alpha Channel.

Okay, that's only when I open a template though. Why doesn't it save the Alpha Channel when I create a template from an image that already has an Alpha Channel? I don't have to add an Alpha Channel when I open a new image because I have that set as default. I don't understand why I should have to add an Alpha every time I open a template when the default is Alpha and the prototype for the template had Alpha.

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 Post subject: Re: Template weirdness
PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:38 am  (#11) 
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What are trying to achieve specifically?

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 Post subject: Re: Template weirdness
PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:53 am  (#12) 
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When I open a template I want it to work just like opening a new image; all my default settings are active and I don't have to make adjustments before beginning to work. Right now, it doesn't do that. I have to add the Alpha Channel and erase the white background before I start the actual work.

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 Post subject: Re: Template weirdness
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:05 pm  (#13) 
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Funny that I'm on a graphic design forum and it took me this long to figure out that maybe, just maybe, pictures might help. :oops:

Here are my default settings;
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So why do I get this when I open a template that was created with those settings?
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 Post subject: Re: Template weirdness
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:24 pm  (#14) 
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Sasquatch wrote:
Funny that I'm on a graphic design forum and it took me this long to figure out that maybe, just maybe, pictures might help. :oops:

Here are my default settings;
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So why do I get this when I open a template that was created with those settings?
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Because the option for you to select a different background,
was left at default,
which is the Background color,
most of the time it's white.

I know that this may seem's like a smart-alec answer,
but I have racked my brain on this issue and have never found any kind of work-around,
or anything.

So you make a nice template...

You open Gimp and select you really swell looking template.

You also don't bother to check any of the other options,
which are available,

Guess What? (rhetorical)

It opens with a white background.

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 Post subject: Re: Template weirdness
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:33 pm  (#15) 
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But that's what I don't understand. Why should I have to check anything? I already checked it all when I made the template in the first place. I had an image with all my default settings, I set it to the required size, then I used "create template". Why does it take an image with a transparent background and turn it into a white background?

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 Post subject: Re: Template weirdness
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:42 pm  (#16) 
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Sasquatch wrote:
But that's what I don't understand. Why should I have to check anything? I already checked it all when I made the template in the first place. I had an image with all my default settings, I set it to the required size, then I used "create template". Why does it take an image with a transparent background and turn it into a white background?

Can you display the template dialog,
along with the template creation tool that's available in your version of Gimp.

Are you using the default template creation tool provided with Gimp?

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 Post subject: Re: Template weirdness
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:48 pm  (#17) 
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If it's originally from the Templates Dialog, I'm not sure what wrong.
Try adjusting these settings, Edit > Preferences > Default Image

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 Post subject: Re: Template weirdness
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 5:28 am  (#18) 
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Wallace wrote:
Can you display the template dialog,
along with the template creation tool that's available in your version of Gimp.

Are you using the default template creation tool provided with Gimp?

As far as I know it's the default tool. I haven't installed anything to create templates. And it doesn't offer much of a dialog. I go to File>Create Template and I get this;
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No options to change anything.

Odinbc wrote:
If it's originally from the Templates Dialog, I'm not sure what wrong.
Try adjusting these settings, Edit > Preferences > Default Image

Those are the settings I adjusted to set my default image in the first place.
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And that's why I don't understand why I get what I get. Unless "default" means something different to the developers than it means to me.

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 Post subject: Re: Template weirdness
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 8:29 am  (#19) 
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To make, edit, remove Templates, Windows → Dockable Dialogs → Templates

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 Post subject: Re: Template weirdness
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 8:37 am  (#20) 
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Odinbc wrote:
To make, edit, remove Templates, Windows → Dockable Dialogs → Templates

Well I'll be... I never knew that was an available dialog. Thanks. Works perfectly. But I'm still baffled as to why it doesn't save templates EXACTLY as they were created.

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