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 Post subject: Request for artistic suggestions
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:09 pm  (#1) 
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I am (alas) not an artist, but a writer. I do however enjoy creating my book covers with GIMP. I have selected an image I want to use for my next book cover, but it doesn't "pop" enough, that is, it isn't eye-catching enough (Amazon will be putting it in a thumbnail). The only things I can think of doing to it is maybe putting a glow around it, or somehow trying to give it some depth (neither of which I know how to do, but I can research). I can't do animation, Amazon won't allow. So, being in somewhat awe of you artists here, I was wondering if anyone might have any suggestion for what I could do to this image to make it nicer, more appealing, more interesting. (And, if you maybe included your instructions for how you did it, I sure wouldn't object!) So thanks for any direction you might be willing to share.


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 Post subject: Re: Request for artistic suggestions
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:32 pm  (#2) 
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Maybe something like this?


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 Post subject: Re: Request for artistic suggestions
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:02 pm  (#3) 
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I think any adornment for your image will need to take into account the colour of the cover background. Here is a suggestion using augmented 'motion blur' from the eagle image itself and a gold colour. Happy to provide further info if needed.

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 Post subject: Re: Request for artistic suggestions
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:09 pm  (#4) 
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Wow, I like both of those. Could you by any chance tell how you made them? It is going against a white background with probably gold or silver font for the title. Thank you so much!


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 Post subject: Re: Request for artistic suggestions
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:06 pm  (#5) 
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Your image still has watermarks on it from Dreamstime.com.
This would indicate,
that it has not been obtained legally and should not be used on your book cover.
Or here on gimp chat.
Without the proper permissions.

The image below is a representation of a watermarked image provider by Dreamstime.com.

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Sorry,
but I had to remove all the other images.

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 Post subject: Re: Request for artistic suggestions
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:10 pm  (#6) 
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Really? I got it from a site that said it was free for commercial use. I'll have to dig back and see where I got it from.


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 Post subject: Re: Request for artistic suggestions
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:14 pm  (#7) 
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Well ... so much for that then; sorry Wallace I should have picked that up too.

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 Post subject: Re: Request for artistic suggestions
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:19 pm  (#8) 
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newtogimp wrote:
Really? I got it from a sight that said it was free for commercial use. I'll have to dig back and see where I got it from.

Sorry about this,
but you can't upload images with known watermarks.
Without providing some sort of disclaimer.
Otherwise I'm forced to remove them.

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 Post subject: Re: Request for artistic suggestions
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:27 pm  (#9) 
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Oh sorry, I think I just uploaded the wrong picture (i'm just starting out on this project). I'm still looking for the site I got it on, but I found it on Shutterstock.


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 Post subject: Re: Request for artistic suggestions
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:33 pm  (#10) 
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newtogimp wrote:
Oh sorry, I think I just uploaded the wrong picture (i'm just starting out on this project).
I'm still looking for the site I got it on,
but I found it on Shutterstock.

Right,
not a problem.

However,
if I notice any well known watermarks.
I'm going to have to remove the image.
;)

Again,
I'm sorry about this.

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 Post subject: Re: Request for artistic suggestions
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:00 am  (#11) 
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I am trying to scale an image. On Image Scale box I enter 13.417 x 9x2.50 inches. I cannot deviate from this. I hit Scale and it gives me 13.280 X 9.260 inches.

Is there a way to make the Scale Image give me the inches I inputted, rather than Gimp changing them?

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 Post subject: Re: Request for artistic suggestions
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:16 am  (#12) 
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newtogimp wrote:
I am trying to scale an image. On Image Scale box I enter 13.417 x 9x2.50 inches. I cannot deviate from this. I hit Scale and it gives me 13.280 X 9.260 inches.

Is there a way to make the Scale Image give me the inches I inputted, rather than Gimp changing them?

Thank you.


I think you meant to type 13.417 x 9.250 (and not 13.417 x 9x2.50).

Gimp works in pixels, not inches. If you enter 13.417 x 9.250 inches Gimp converts this to pixels, using the dpi set for the image. But there cannot be fractions of a pixel. So Gimp rounds off the pixel size to the nearest whole pixel. Then converts this size in pixels back to inches which is why you get the change.


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 Post subject: Re: Request for artistic suggestions
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:08 am  (#13) 
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I am having to re-size some of my book covers for Large Print. I have to re-size them to 13.370 x 9.250 inches. I can't deviate from this. Unfortunately, when I enter these numbers on Scale Image, it insists on scaling the cover to a size I don't want. I tried it umpteen times and then suddenly it gave it to me. I tried with another cover and it kept giving me a different size too, but then it suddenly gave me a window that said I was trying to make a size it basically didn't like, but I hit Scale anyway, and it gave it to me.

Is there any way to scale an image so Gimp will just give me the size that I want, like some sort of override button? Thank you.

Edit: sorry for duplication, didn't realize my previous attempts to post had gone through.

Thanks for response. I just click the inches option in the Scale Image box, and use that.


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 Post subject: Re: Request for artistic suggestions
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:30 am  (#14) 
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Resize your image in pixels. Assuming you are going to print at 300 dpi, multiply 300x13.37= 4011 and 300x9.25=2775. So your pixel resolution at 300 dpi should be 4011x2775. Be sure to set print dpi to 300 to get the proper size which will be 13.37 x 9.25 inches.


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 Post subject: Re: Request for artistic suggestions
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:52 am  (#15) 
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Using the size you are allowed, first convert the inches to pixels. and see what you get.
Write down those measurements and scale it to the pixel measurements selected. Then you should get what you want.

If you do not have a calculator that can do the conversion google will have one

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 Post subject: Re: Request for artistic suggestions
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:00 am  (#16) 
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newtogimp wrote:
I have to re-size them to 13.370 x 9.250 inches. I can't deviate from this.


You gave different requirements.

First, you specified 13.417x9.250 inches
13.417 @ 300dpi gives 4025.1 pixels. This will get rounded to 4025 pixels and a very small change will take place in the inch size.
9.250 @ 300dpi gives 2775 pixels. No problem, no resizing takes place.

Then you specified 13.370x9.250 inches
13.370 @ 300dpi gives 4011 pixels. No problem, no resizing takes place.
9.250 @ 300dpi gives 2775 pixels. No problem, no resizing takes place.


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 Post subject: Re: Request for artistic suggestions
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:44 am  (#17) 
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Sorry for putting different numbers, I was working on different books.

Thank you for pixel conversion, I will try that.


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 Post subject: Re: Request for artistic suggestions
PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:41 am  (#18) 
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I figured it out. :-)

You have to enter the size numbers in the window from File > New > Image Size, not in the Scale window from the Image Tab or the Scale tool from the Toolbox. I don't know why, but it has something to do with "not enough memory" in something.

Thanks you all for feedback!

Edit. I think this was what was really going on: Gimp, in its "Preferences" dialogue box, sets the maximum size you can make an image. My "Preferences" was set at Gimp's default number. Unfortunately, I was trying to make an image bigger than this default number which was why Gimp wouldn't let me. So, I just increased this maximum image size so I won't have any problems in future.


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