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 Post subject: Anybody have any tip/trick regarding a tablet?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:45 am  (#1) 
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I bought this Wacom Graphire table way back and I mean way back. Put it this way gas was still about $1.40/gallon. Well, I've never ever used it. I've plugged it in and just really couldn't get the knack of it.

The drawing area of the table is 4 h x5 w got the most current drivers installed. Biggest draw back is I'm a lefty. I want to use the pen and the mouse at the same time .. not a good combo.

What I have a problem with is running out of room on the table versus the screen. Or is that just the nature of the beast?

So I'm hoping that if anybody could help me with any settings or does everybody pretty much go gangster and use the mouse?

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 Post subject: Re: Anybody have any tip/trick regarding a tablet?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:57 am  (#2) 
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I too am a lefty, and actually I find it to be advantageous in this circumstance.

Personally, I don't use the wacom mouse, just the pen. I plug in a seperate mouse and use the mouse with my right hand. I am now able to ergonimically switch between pen, and mouse.

As for running out of tablet before screen, well I'm unsure. My Tablet maps out a 1 to 1 location with my screen, and I would expect yours to do the same.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:00 am  (#3) 
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I too am a lefty, and actually I find it to be advantageous in this circumstance.

Personally, I don't use the wacom mouse, just the pen. I plug in a seperate mouse and use the mouse with my right hand. I am now able to ergonimically switch between pen, and mouse.
Lefty here, too, and I love being two-handed between the pen and mouse. My tablet, Wacom Bamboo Fun, came with its own mouse, but I find using the computer mouse more efficient.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:37 am  (#4) 
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My Hanwang tablet didn't come with a mouse but i can use both when i need to.
My tablet uses 1x1 also.Most tablets will set to your screen size accordingly.
You may need to change the speed however.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:37 am  (#5) 
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As others here, I never found the wacom mouse to be very useful. There is a reason new models don't have the mouse out of the box anymore. Just use a separate mouse.

I use the smallest-type tablet and have for all my work throughout the years. If you "run out of space", it's possible you are using your tablet in "Relative" mode (i.e. mouse-like so you have to lift and drag in order to reach all parts of the screen). Wacoms used for painting are meant to be used in "Absolute" mode, where the tablet surface directly represents the screen (so if you lift the pen and put it down a corner, the cursor will immediately jump to that corner on the screen).
If you have an old tablet, it's likely 4:3 proportion. If you use a widescreen monitor you'll then need to adjust the driver setting to exactly map to the screen (this means loosing some tablet area in the lower part of the tablet). I do exactly this remapping and never noticed the loss of area myself.
I have a tutorial on setting up wacom for GIMP if you should need more info: http://www.gimptalk.com/index.php?/topi ... with-gimp/
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:22 am  (#6) 
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With all due respect Griatch but as far as Linux is concerned your tablet howto is outdated.
Linux now uses udev and evdev to detect them.
One will need also the xf86-input-wacom driver which will have xsetwacom utility to adjust pressure etc.
KDE has a gui utility called wacomtablet to adjust everything.
I'm sure Gnome will have something similar.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:46 am  (#7) 
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gerard82 wrote:
With all due respect Griatch but as far as Linux is concerned your tablet howto is outdated.
Linux now uses udev and evdev to detect them.
One will need also the xf86-input-wacom driver which will have xsetwacom utility to adjust pressure etc.
KDE has a gui utility called wacomtablet to adjust everything.
I'm sure Gnome will have something similar.
Gerard.


In that case it's a good thing that Biggz is a Windows user, haha.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:54 am  (#8) 
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Wacom (and other brands) tablets always come with Windows software.
It should provide you drivers,howto use and adjustments.
If you've lost the CD you can d/l it from their site.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:53 am  (#9) 
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tstandiford wrote:
... In that case it's a good thing that Biggz is a Windows user, haha.


And I also have a few linux distro's on virtualbox. If I had the physical equipment I'd have just one linux box a side my windows. But I have 4'10" of pure concentrated evil that would question the need to purchase hardware for such a reason. *sigh*

gerard82 wrote:
Wacom (and other brands) tablets always come with Windows software.
It should provide you drivers,howto use and adjustments.
If you've lost the CD you can d/l it from their site.
Gerard.


I was poking around control panel and there stuff in there that I didn't see even after the reboot of installing the drivers. I'm gonna have to poke around and see whats, what!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:48 am  (#10) 
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MrBiggz wrote:
And I also have a few linux distro's on virtualbox. If I had the physical equipment I'd have just one linux box a side my windows. But I have 4'10" of pure concentrated evil that would question the need to purchase hardware for such a reason. *sigh*


-snickers- well put.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:16 am  (#11) 
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Well, I've given up with this tablet. It's about a paper weight now!

I cannot configure it in windows control panel. I can have the tablet plugged in and go to Wacom table properties on the control panel and it'll tell me "A supported tablet table was not found on the system."

Bah!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:11 am  (#12) 
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MrBiggz wrote:
Well, I've given up with this tablet. It's about a paper weight now!

I cannot configure it in windows control panel. I can have the tablet plugged in and go to Wacom table properties on the control panel and it'll tell me "A supported tablet table was not found on the system."

Bah!

does that mean you didn't find any drivers from the Wacom site?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:18 am  (#13) 
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cecilia wrote:
MrBiggz wrote:
Well, I've given up with this tablet. It's about a paper weight now!

I cannot configure it in windows control panel. I can have the tablet plugged in and go to Wacom table properties on the control panel and it'll tell me "A supported tablet table was not found on the system."

Bah!

does that mean you didn't find any drivers from the Wacom site?


I got the drivers and they installed fine. I almost want to bet it's Vista being its snobbish self!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:41 am  (#14) 
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I almost want to bet it's Vista being its snobbish self!
Upgrade to XP :)

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:45 am  (#15) 
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gerard82 wrote:
With all due respect Griatch but as far as Linux is concerned your tablet howto is outdated.
Linux now uses udev and evdev to detect them.
One will need also the xf86-input-wacom driver which will have xsetwacom utility to adjust pressure etc.
KDE has a gui utility called wacomtablet to adjust everything.
I'm sure Gnome will have something similar.
Gerard.

True, although the linux bit was almost outdated the moment I wrote it, the latest development has really run away (you don't need udev, really, but it sure helps). The gimp config stuff is still valid though, I'll see if I'll go back and update the rest again.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:46 am  (#16) 
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ofnuts wrote:
MrBiggz wrote:
I almost want to bet it's Vista being its snobbish self!
Upgrade to XP :)


That's actually possible! I have XP on a virtualbox VM. I wonder how much grief it would be to get the USB device to act right there. I could give it a try! All I'd have to do is install Gimp and just make a VM shared folder to the 2.6 folder for all the goodies. Yeah .. I'll give it a go!

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MrBiggz wrote:
cecilia wrote:
MrBiggz wrote:
Well, I've given up with this tablet. It's about a paper weight now!

I cannot configure it in windows control panel. I can have the tablet plugged in and go to Wacom table properties on the control panel and it'll tell me "A supported tablet table was not found on the system."

Bah!

does that mean you didn't find any drivers from the Wacom site?


I got the drivers and they installed fine. I almost want to bet it's Vista being its snobbish self!
I never had Vista but I heard horrible things about it.
It's entirely your choice to go to XP.
good luck with all that :bigthup

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:19 pm  (#18) 
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@Griatch,
Here's a link to the latest developments:
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/l ... =Main_Page
Take a look at /dev/.udev/db in your computer with your tablet connected,look under usb.
Kind regards,
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:11 pm  (#19) 
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@Gerard
Yes, I know that site well, I also know that udev/evdev is the thing these days. That the tutorial is not updated is more a lack of time than anything. What I meant was that for configuration, if one already has an xorg.conf setup (since a long time), this is used as a hard-coded alternative to the udev rule. I know since it was only rather recently I went away from the xorg.conf way - and that was mainly due to me wanting to keep up to speed more than anything (plus prompted by only the git version of the driver now finally again supporting twinview in the proprietary nvidia driver).
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MrBiggz wrote:
ofnuts wrote:
MrBiggz wrote:
I almost want to bet it's Vista being its snobbish self!
Upgrade to XP :)


That's actually possible! I have XP on a virtualbox VM. I wonder how much grief it would be to get the USB device to act right there. I could give it a try! All I'd have to do is install Gimp and just make a VM shared folder to the 2.6 folder for all the goodies. Yeah .. I'll give it a go!


You can't run vista drivers in any form of "compatibility mode" like you can programs on vista, can you? This is literally a complete shot in the dark, but it may lead to something.

I hated Vista. I hated it so much that I took the time to learn Ubuntu (which of course turned out to be a great find)


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