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 Post subject: Re: 'Extrude from Path' Script
PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 12:57 am  (#81) 
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Hey Sallyanne, coming from an inexperienced user, I think its obviously an area of trial and error too. I have been having similar problems today getting blobs of colour not pleasant strokes and had to keep changing number of/distance between paths, brush type, size and this 'spacing' thing which I still do not comprehend very well.

However, after quite a while trying a number of different combinations I was able to get what I wanted (refer my post #158 in the path-inbetweener thread) and like Graechan advises my settings ended up right down the low end of the scale. Good luck anywway.

Have a look here. I made a video showing how I made my snowflakes.
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 Post subject: Re: 'Extrude from Path' Script
PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:18 am  (#82) 
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Wallace, I knew you never sleep - thanks for the video reference, its a case of "A GIMP neophyte can learn more from a Wallace video than a fool can learn from a wise answer".

best thing is learning from you guys is fun, in my working days learning was a chore!

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 Post subject: Re: 'Extrude from Path' Script
PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:30 am  (#83) 
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Wallace, I knew you never sleep - thanks for the video reference, its a case of "A GIMP neophyte can learn more from a Wallace video than a fool can learn from a wise answer".

best thing is learning from you guys is fun, in my working days learning was a chore!

You're welcome and enjoy.

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 Post subject: Re: 'Extrude from Path' Script
PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:47 am  (#84) 
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Sallyanne what gimp version are you using and did you slect the rope brush in the menu as below
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2.8.10 32 bit Windows and I am selecting it there as well as making it the 'current selected brush'. Is there somewhere in that dialogue to change the size?

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 Post subject: Re: 'Extrude from Path' Script
PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:51 am  (#85) 
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Sallyanne what gimp version are you using and did you slect the rope brush in the menu as below
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2.8.10 32 bit Windows and I am selecting it there as well as making it the 'current selected brush'. Is there somewhere in that dialogue to change the size?

Are you looking to change the brush size?

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 Post subject: Re: 'Extrude from Path' Script
PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:59 am  (#86) 
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I know it can be changed in the brush tool options but can it be changed in the window that pops up when doing the Script? I haven't seen any settings there for the brush except to change the type and spacing.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:04 am  (#87) 
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I know it can be changed in the brush tool options but can it be changed in the window that pops up when doing the Script? I haven't seen any settings there for the brush except to change the type and spacing.

No you can't change the size of the brush within the Extrude from Path script. Also unfortunately, there is a bug that will not allow the brush size to be changed while using Gimp 2.8.10. for this and many other scripts.
The brush size will remain at it's default size. So I would suggest using a brush with a default size that is close to what you're looking to create.
I don't think I'm wrong about this.

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 Post subject: Re: 'Extrude from Path' Script
PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:20 am  (#88) 
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@Wallace ... all the gimp neophyte needs is a brush bug!

@Graechan ... thanks for the brushes download; just tested one out and am 'gobsmacked' at the result. Looks like my garden is going to suffer this summer!

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 Post subject: Re: 'Extrude from Path' Script
PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:28 am  (#89) 
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Oldmangrumpy try the Vine #1 brush you can always regrow it

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 Post subject: Re: 'Extrude from Path' Script
PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:31 am  (#90) 
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oldmangrumpy wrote:
Hey Sallyanne, coming from an inexperienced user, I think its obviously an area of trial and error too. I have been having similar problems today getting blobs of colour not pleasant strokes and had to keep changing number of/distance between paths, brush type, size and this 'spacing' thing which I still do not comprehend very well.

However, after quite a while trying a number of different combinations I was able to get what I wanted (refer my post #158 in the path-inbetweener thread) and like Graechan advises my settings ended up right down the low end of the scale. Good luck anywway.

oldmangrumpy, spacing means the following. When you run the "stroke path" the spacing will define the distance between a stroke and the following, measured in pixel. In other words, if you choose a small spacing the rope will appear right next to each other, sometimes overlaping. If the spacing is enormous the rope will appear well spaced, with gaps between them. For better understanding, make a simple path and ask to stroke. Change the spacing gradually to observe what happens. Also change the brush to better understand. If I want the stroke to appear alongside each other, but not overlapping, I have to set the spacing depending on the size of the brush. Therefore, the ideal spacing depends on the brush and the expected goal. If I have a 1 pixel brush and I want to fill a line completely, I have to choose a spacing of 1. If the brush is a large butterfly and I want the butterfly to appear sparsely, I have to greatly increase the spacing.

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 Post subject: Re: 'Extrude from Path' Script
PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:14 pm  (#91) 
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the brush tool was a bit buggy in 2.8 until it was fixed in 2.8.14

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 Post subject: Re: 'Extrude from Path' Script
PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:37 pm  (#92) 
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Finally got some free time to play and wanted to test this script.Here is my result using text.

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Thanks, Graechan!

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 Post subject: Re: 'Extrude from Path' Script
PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:40 pm  (#93) 
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That is very cool Tux, it looks like the texture of a balloon where you can squeeze it and it will make a dent... very nice.

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 Post subject: Re: 'Extrude from Path' Script
PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:49 pm  (#94) 
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:ditto I was hoping you would find time to play GnuTux maybe you could suggest some additional features
as you did with your 3D extrusion script

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 Post subject: Re: 'Extrude from Path' Script
PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:55 pm  (#95) 
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Thanks a lot for that info Carlos Diniz it helps a lot; I realise that most such info is available somewhere and that practice makes perfect (well sometimes!) but I am going at such a fast learning pace right now I am probably trying to do different things with insufficient knowledge/preparation - but I love this GIMP so much!!

So onwards and upwards!!

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 Post subject: Re: 'Extrude from Path' Script
PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:06 pm  (#96) 
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Oldmangrumpy spacing is a % of the brushsize

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 Post subject: Re: 'Extrude from Path' Script
PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:10 pm  (#97) 
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Graechan wrote:
Oldmangrumpy spacing is a % of the brushsize

Graechan, I didn't understand. A % of what?

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 Post subject: Re: 'Extrude from Path' Script
PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:58 pm  (#98) 
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Carlos the spacing setting is a 'percentage of width of brush'
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 Post subject: Re: 'Extrude from Path' Script
PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:29 pm  (#99) 
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 Post subject: Re: 'Extrude from Path' Script
PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:20 pm  (#100) 
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maybe this will help you understand spacing and size
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