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 Post subject: Dummy-level help needed to install photoshop plugin via xnview, please
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:28 am  (#1) 
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So... I realize my computer skills are much below that of the average gimp-user. I only run linux when I must, to use some work-related software. I only code unix stuff with heavy mentoring, a tutorial at hand and google as my back-up assistant. Heck, I'm just a dumb biologist who likes to take photos and post process them. But I'm not completely beyond learning, so please bear with me... :)

I have bought just one photoshop filter in my life, but I really need it: A very powerful noise reduction plugin called TopazDenoise. I have been using it with gimp 2.6 with the help of pspi. Now I find that pspi doesn't work with gimp 2.7.

I asked google for help, and apparently there isn't a real alternative to pspi that makes gimp 2.7 recognize photoshop plugins, but several threads mention that you can get photoshop plugins to work via xnview. I looked at xnview: Apparently this is a piece of open source software that can convert a lot of different image file formats and can also use photoshop plugins. But I couldn't find out how to use it to install my TopazDenoise plugin in gimp...

...possibly, it can't. Maybe the threads are just suggesting to run the filter in xnview instead, and then move the noise-reduced image file to gimp afterwards? In that case I guess I might as well hang on to gimp 2.6 for denoising, and then save the image as .xcf and move to gimp 2.7. I would REALLY prefer being able to do everything in 2.7 to keep my workflow reasonably simple (I already need faststone to sort and quality filter the photos and then ufraw to convert the raw image file - I hate having to add a fourth step!)

IF there is a workaround for simple windows-users like me, to make my denoise-filter work in gimp, then I would really, really appreciate if someone could walk me though it. At a slow and child-like pace, preferably... ;)

In any case, thanks for any thoughts, hints, ideas, pointers etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Dummy-level help needed to install photoshop plugin via xnview, pl
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:21 am  (#2) 
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I can't help with the XNview installation, but your point about pspi not working with GIMP 2.7 makes me wonder if it isn't time for someone to get pspi working.

Obviously the first port of call should be Tor Lillqvist as the author: http://tml.pp.fi/gimp/pspi.html
But maybe one of our Compilation Guru's could have a look as the source tarball is available.


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 Post subject: Re: Dummy-level help needed to install photoshop plugin via xnview, pl
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:54 am  (#3) 
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I've asked Tor and he has offered to pass on all the source files to whoever wants to take up the torch. He has no interest (at this time) to work on it. I've often hoped someone would pick up the PSPI banner and run with it, I have so many plug-ins that were rendered nil via 2.6.11. It will work in 2.6.10, though.

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 Post subject: Re: Dummy-level help needed to install photoshop plugin via xnview, pl
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:53 am  (#4) 
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I have PSPI running in Gimp-2.7.4 without any problems.
Could you tell me the exact error you get on loading Gimp? Many times it is a DLL file that needs to be moved to the system 32 folder in Windows.

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It is a good idea to take a look at the src though.

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 Post subject: Re: Dummy-level help needed to install photoshop plugin via xnview, pl
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:49 am  (#5) 
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Well, Rod, maybe you just suggested the easy solution! So happy to hear that pspi actually works for you!

I downloaded Partha's latest 2.7 version, but I got the 64 bit version. Uninstalling that and getting the 32 version instead is... within the limit of my skills. So, if that is all it takes to make pspi work again, I'm definitely going with that! Thank you!

Has to wait until I get off work and back to my own computer though (yes, I read chat boards at work, my ethics are horrible... :))


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 Post subject: Re: Dummy-level help needed to install photoshop plugin via xnview, pl
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:57 pm  (#6) 
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Yes as far as i know PSPI is not compiled for 64 bit YET. :)
I am working on a new compile for 32 bit now though.Ran into a snag with pssdk flags.

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 Post subject: Re: Dummy-level help needed to install photoshop plugin via xnview, pl
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:36 pm  (#7) 
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Rod wrote:
Yes as far as i know PSPI is not compiled for 64 bit YET. :)
I am working on a new compile for 32 bit now though.Ran into a snag with pssdk flags.


Were you able to get the Adobe SDK for the verion PSPI was written against?

I signed up a Adobe and got the dev access, but was not able to get a SDK I could compile PSPI against....

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 Post subject: Re: Dummy-level help needed to install photoshop plugin via xnview, pl
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:14 pm  (#8) 
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RobA wrote:
Rod wrote:
Yes as far as i know PSPI is not compiled for 64 bit YET. :)
I am working on a new compile for 32 bit now though.Ran into a snag with pssdk flags.


Were you able to get the Adobe SDK for the verion PSPI was written against?

I signed up a Adobe and got the dev access, but was not able to get a SDK I could compile PSPI against....

-Rob A>


To be honest i have not looked into it yet Rob. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Dummy-level help needed to install photoshop plugin via xnview, pl
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:43 pm  (#9) 
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pspi screw up the preview in most ps filters and the linux version has even more problem with PS plugin interface

Pspi DOES work with linux but require Wine, ...and if you have wine Xnview seems a better choice also because the script (ShellOut) that allow to use it as a plugin

Back to your question, install filter in xnview is trivial :
1)put your filters in a folder, where doesn't matter may be inside or outside the program
2) start xnview go to filter/Photoshop filter, there Configure:
just indicate where is the folder, filters will become immediately available

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 Post subject: Re: Dummy-level help needed to install photoshop plugin via xnview, pl
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:28 pm  (#10) 
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I have another small hint for you also.
If you ever run a Photo Shop plugin through Gimp and after you click apply it does nothing, go to Filters/and repeat the last one.Works real well for those stubborn filters that do not seem to work right away. :)

Here is a link for Ubuntu users - Getting PSPI to work in 64 bit.
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.p ... 84072.html

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