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 Post subject: Re: Old managers additives (with a little modification)
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:28 pm  (#41) 
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Okay, I have a question, well maybe a few. I've been following a few discussions about resource managers. There seems to be a consensus reached in this thread that MareoQ's managers are better. Am I right in that? I have GURM 0.7 installed now. I know some of you have tried out 0.8. Would it be worth it just to wait for that to be released? Also, for MareoQ's managers, the sub-directories can remain in folders or zipped? It doesn't matter?


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 Post subject: Re: Old managers additives (with a little modification)
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:48 am  (#42) 
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I was playing around with these yesterday with the usual 'why does it not work, but once I had corrected the odd backslash (using linux here) and spelling error in the paths, all was fine.
Zipped files working ok, as do regular folders. This is my Gimp 2.6.12 but a linux 2.8 works the same.
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I think that these plugins are most useful for managing resources that are in frequent use but not everyday. I have used the script manager for some time now and that is really useful for keeping the ever-increasing collection of scripts under control.

However I still have GURM installed and use that for resources that are used less often, large sets of little used brushes for example. Why not. Use whatever is available.

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 Post subject: Re: Old managers additives (with a little modification)
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:08 pm  (#43) 
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I know I read somewhere (this thread?) that it wasn't an either/or situation. That you can use both. The reason I was asking is because I've been having a problem with Gimp crashing almost everytime I scrolled through the fonts. I couldn't find anything about it. So, I figured it was a particular font causing the problem or too many fonts. Really, it didn't seem like it was that many fonts. Anyway, now I need something that will manage fonts too. I guess I'll just give MareoQ's managers a try.

It would be nice to have a manager with drop down menus for each sub-directory to load individual resources (as has been mentioned) but you can't have everything.

Thanks for responding.


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 Post subject: Re: Old managers additives (with a little modification)
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:52 pm  (#44) 
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I finally got the brush manager working. I opened some brushes, they showed up. Everything worked fine. I unticked the brushes and closed the window. I went into manager again and selected another set of brushes, the previous ones were still loaded and now they are stuck there and the next ones won't load.

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 Post subject: Re: Old managers additives (with a little modification)
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:42 pm  (#45) 
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Molly, I had the same problem with GURM. What I had to was go to each resource folder, right click, and change the permissions for owner and group folder access to Create and Delete Files. Then click Apply Permissions to Enclosed Files. You have to do the same thing with the gimp folders in your home directory. Fedora might be a little different but hopefully that helps. You might just need to do that with your gimp folders but it's done and it's working. So, I'm leaving it alone.


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 Post subject: Re: Old managers additives (with a little modification)
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:47 pm  (#46) 
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Thanks Bug. My folders already have the permissions checked. Everything works fine in Gurm but in Manager, I can't get them unselected so I can select another one. Maybe after I reboot my pc it might unstick them but I don't want to do that every time.

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 Post subject: Re: Old managers additives (with a little modification)
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:12 pm  (#47) 
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If you figure it out, being a Linux user also, would you let me know if there's anything specifically I need to do? I'll probably be installing it tomorrow. Right now, I'm looking forward to organizing my fonts in preparation. So much so, I'm putting it off as long as I can.

Nevermind, I got it. Hope things work out for you.


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 Post subject: Re: Old managers additives (with a little modification)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:13 am  (#48) 
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.....the previous ones were still loaded and now they are stuck there and the next ones won't load.


I found this when I was setting the gradients manager up a couple of days ago, the gradients were copied to the global folder, (/usr/share/gimp/2.0/gradients/) rather than the local folder and did not get removed.
At the time I made a couple of stupid errors with paths and names, so it was all mixed in with other things.

It happened a couple of times until I tweaked something, not sure, I think it was the MQ-xxx.py permissions which I made read-write-exec for everybody. When it comes to deleting those global files you need a root permission file browser. Don't know where those brushes will end up as in Gimp 2.8 as there are several sub-folders, hopefully the top level.

So far, that annoyance has not reoccurred. PCLOS and Gimp 2.8

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 Post subject: Re: Old managers additives (with a little modification)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:56 am  (#49) 
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Mine all ended up in /home/molly/.gimp-2.8/brushes. I don't know if I should take them out of there or not. Isn't that folder supposed to stay empty?

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 Post subject: Re: Old managers additives (with a little modification)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:04 am  (#50) 
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molly wrote:
Mine all ended up in /home/molly/.gimp-2.8/brushes. I don't know if I should take them out of there or not. Isn't that folder supposed to stay empty?


The brushes will stay there until you delete them Molly.
As far as the manager, ticked boxes.Look for a active.txt file in the alternate or INSTALL_DIR brushes folder.
Delete that and those brushes will stay un ticked.
This is why i was asking for a auto delete function added to the managers.So after using the brush set you could click a button the active list got cleared and the brushes deleted or removed. :)
That would be so helpful.
You can try and trash them from the brushes dialog before closing Gimp that will probably work.But the active.txt file still needs to be cleared or deleted (it re writes itself dynamically).

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 Post subject: Re: Old managers additives (with a little modification)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:19 am  (#51) 
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Thanks Rod, I already did that. Got rid of the brushes but now manager doesn't work at all again. I guess I will just stick to GURM for now cuz this is getting me crazy. I have the paths in correctly cuz I checked them enough times.

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 Post subject: Re: Old managers additives (with a little modification)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:24 am  (#52) 
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Rod beat me to it but FWIW

Thats good, better than I had initially. MrQxxx.py copies the resource from source (/home/molly/.gimp-2.8/brushes_alt - or whatever you made it) to destination (/home/molly/.gimp-2.8/brushes) so that looks like that is working correctly.

It keeps track of what is installed in a file active.txt in '../.gimp-2.8/brushes_alt'. The contents of mine at the moment is
fractal.zip,zigzag, - fractal is a zipped file and zizzag is a folder.

Have a look and see if active.txt is there and the also the contents. Possibly a permissions problem.

I would check that you still have the stuck brushes in ../brushes_alt and if so I would delete from your regular brush folder.
Gurm does things a little different and keeps track of what is installed in gurm.ini

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 Post subject: Re: Old managers additives (with a little modification)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:53 am  (#53) 
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This is what I have.
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 Post subject: Re: Old managers additives (with a little modification)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:24 am  (#54) 
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Molly look in your "brushes_mybrushes" folder and look for a file named "active.txt"
delete everything in the file (its just text), and is re written dynamically.
Restart Gimp and try the manager again.

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 Post subject: Re: Old managers additives (with a little modification)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:42 am  (#55) 
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I don't don't have any "activetxt" in "mybrushes" but maybe my problem is that Brushes and My Brushes are two separate folders. So that must mean my path may be wrong but it is just like the way the rest of you made yours.

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 Post subject: Re: Old managers additives (with a little modification)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:46 am  (#56) 
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molly wrote:
I don't don't have any "activetxt" in "mybrushes" but maybe my problem is that Brushes and My Brushes are two separate folders. So that must mean my path may be wrong but it is just like the way the rest of you made yours.

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A couple of things to look at

Do not think 'windows'
my_brushes and 'my brushes' are different
activetxt is active.txt
You do need 2 separate paths, what you have posted looks correct, and if files have been copied from one to the other then it is mostly working.

Try making MrQ-Brush_Manager.py read-write-executable for everything. Looks to me that it can read from the ~/.gimp-2.8/brushes_mybrushes folder (to copy to ~/.gimp-2.8/brushes) but can not write to that folder to create the file 'active.txt'

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 Post subject: Re: Old managers additives (with a little modification)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:53 am  (#57) 
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I made them all read-write and executable and still doesn't work. I have the manger button but it doesn't do anything.

I also did the pattern one, I made a folder called Mypatterns and put some patterns in a folder inside that. When I open up Gimp, I right click on patterns and I get the Pattern Manager but it doesn't do anything either, Yes, I did make it all executable, read and write. grrr

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 Post subject: Re: Old managers additives (with a little modification)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:30 am  (#58) 
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Molly you have your path set to brushes_mybrushes
your brushes have to be in a folder NAMED brushes_mybrushes
are they in a folder named brushes_mybrushes or a folder named mybrushes?

those are two different folder names

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 Post subject: Re: Old managers additives (with a little modification)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:32 am  (#59) 
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O, I didn't know there was such a thing. So, If I make the folder, I will call it Brushes_My Brushes? caps?

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 Post subject: Re: Old managers additives (with a little modification)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:35 am  (#60) 
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It doesn't matter caps or not windows see's brushes_mybrushes and Brushes_Mybrushes as the same folder.
If you rename your mybrushes folder to brushes_mybrushes it will work.
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change your path to read .gimp-2.8\mybrushes

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