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 Post subject: Glass or Bevel
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:31 am  (#1) 
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Pretty neat filter. You can make some pretty cool looking effects with it.
http://registry.gimp.org/node/28397
From this - Font name is Anklepants
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To this-
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How i made this one-
Select the text shrink the selection and color it. Do this twice and run the filter Filters>Decor>Glass or Bevel each time on the colored area. You get an effect similar to the one above.


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 Post subject: Re: Glass or Bevel
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:03 am  (#2) 
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where does this come from ?

i mean this wasnt written by somebody from Gimpchat, right



also lol @ the FAQ


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 Post subject: Re: Glass or Bevel
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:19 pm  (#3) 
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Esper wrote:
where does this come from ?

i mean this wasnt written by somebody from Gimpchat, right



also lol @ the FAQ

This is a python module written by Efenstor. :)
More information can be found at the link i provided at the gimp registry website.
Some more of his plugins here - http://registry.gimp.org/user/66036/track


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 Post subject: Re: Glass or Bevel
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:36 pm  (#4) 
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Rod, you misunderstand me

i have clicked the link and seen the author's name

to me it seems, Gimpchat is the biggest and most active Gimp-related forum
i've never heard of Andrey "Efenstor" Pivovarov before
so i wonder who he is and why does he write a script
maybe he is a Gimp developer ?
as far as i understad he is not a member of GC, or is he ?

also its very interesting to see, that we recently had a few topics with exactly this kind of crisp highlight and all of a sudden there is a script for this
of course this could be coincidence

but normally, these scripts are written out of context
for example pegleg wrote his tutorial how to make a star with gradients and Graechan made a script out of it


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 Post subject: Re: Glass or Bevel
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:52 pm  (#5) 
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Rod thanks for this excellent find

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No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.


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 Post subject: Re: Glass or Bevel
PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:14 am  (#6) 
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Esper wrote:
Rod, you misunderstand me

i have clicked the link and seen the author's name

to me it seems, Gimpchat is the biggest and most active Gimp-related forum
i've never heard of Andrey "Efenstor" Pivovarov before
so i wonder who he is and why does he write a script
maybe he is a Gimp developer ?
as far as i understad he is not a member of GC, or is he ?

also its very interesting to see, that we recently had a few topics with exactly this kind of crisp highlight and all of a sudden there is a script for this
of course this could be coincidence

but normally, these scripts are written out of context
for example pegleg wrote his tutorial how to make a star with gradients and Graechan made a script out of it


It is a pretty cool effect isn't it Graechan?

As far as i know he isn't a member here....yet. But like other script and filter developers (Bytes and Pixels to name one), he joined after mentioning his filter here. He also re wrote a few of them to suit users needs better. So you see the reason i post filters i find here. :bigthup
He writes and shares his scripts (just like the rest of us), so other people can enjoy them. :)
I share them here to possibly get to know the author better.
Same reason i began to compile Beautify. To get the author to add more functionality to the plugin. The more attention you pay to a filter the more attention you get from the author of it. The more updates to the filter you will see.
Understand?


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 Post subject: Re: Glass or Bevel
PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:38 am  (#7) 
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this is very much the effect im showing in my banner tutorial here:
http://gimpchat.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=8052

just applied to a shrinked layer so the highlight is offset

that is the reason why i suspect, this guy may have seen the tutorial and wrote a script for the effect
which is fine for me

now im not saying i invented this
i invented nothing
i just show people what i re-discovered

so i think its great this script has been written, whatever the inspiration was

but again there is something that i want to repeat
this effect is very easy
you dont really need a script for it
also as you can see, the script gives you pretty jagged edges
which is unnecessary, because you can easily avoid it, when you apply a curve carefully

this is again my point i already stated in the 'i have a problem' thread
the effect is simple - it doesnt really need a script
you can do a better job when doing it by hand (no jaggy edges, more freedom about the angle of light)
people who use this script will not know how the effect is done
which again means knowledge is lost and the general level of Gimp knowledge diminished
and i think this is a problem

said effect - no script:
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 Post subject: Re: Glass or Bevel
PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:35 pm  (#8) 
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No objections from me Esper. Yet the reason for writing scripts like this is slightly different: they are all made for making good effects done is a quick and easy way. Believe it or not, from time to time I'm using Gimp in commercial graphics production, the deadlines are always tight and the effects ought to be impressive. Sometimes I need to make a dozen of titles with complex effects in a matter of hours, so making a script is the best way around. For example, I've written "Drop Shadow Advanced" for designing an audio CD booklet: I needed to put lyrics upon very complex photographic backgrounds - that was the band's requirement, - so the only way to make it look good was to darken/lighten everything around the text, preferably in a very smooth way. All the effect also should have been layer-splitted so that I could fine-tune everything for a particular background. I've made a script for myself, then put it online for good people's use. No harm done, I think.

Also, any knowledge is not completely lost as far it's open-source.

As to the jaggies: II've added the "Gloss Contrast" parameter, set it to a lower value and all the jaggies will be gone. By the way: I've "invented" this effect independently about 10 years ago, working in some pirated Corel PHOTO-SHOP... :)))


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 Post subject: Re: Glass or Bevel
PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:49 pm  (#9) 
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Efenstor wrote:
No objections from me Esper. Yet the reason for writing scripts like this is slightly different: they are all made for making good effects done is a quick and easy way. Believe it or not, from time to time I'm using Gimp in commercial graphics production, the deadlines are always tight and the effects ought to be impressive. Sometimes I need to make a dozen of titles with complex effects in a matter of hours, so making a script is the best way around. For example, I've written "Drop Shadow Advanced" for designing an audio CD booklet: I needed to put lyrics upon very complex photographic backgrounds - that was the band's requirement, - so the only way to make it look good was to darken/lighten everything around the text, preferably in a very smooth way. All the effect also should have been layer-splitted so that I could fine-tune everything for a particular background. I've made a script for myself, then put it online for good people's use. No harm done, I think.

Also, any knowledge is not completely lost as far it's open-source.

As to the jaggies: II've added the "Gloss Contrast" parameter, set it to a lower value and all the jaggies will be gone. By the way: I've "invented" this effect independently about 10 years ago, working in some pirated Corel PHOTO-SHOP... :)))

Thanks for the tip on Gloss Contrast and this fine plugin. I think its great. :)
Also welcome to Gimp Chat.


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 Post subject: Re: Glass or Bevel
PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:09 pm  (#10) 
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Hi Efenstor !

very nice to have you on board !

I hope i did not come across as rude or arrogant.
Im a bit in a holy war at the moment :mrgreen:
so things may read harsher than i mean it.


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