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 Post subject: Made Something Awhile ago.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:38 pm  (#1) 
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10 years ago actually and have not been able to replicate it.
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I used (I think) an almost transparent or white colour to make the text then colour to alpha'd it and put it on the background.
I made the sign for a place I was volunteering with at the time and they got lots of people to make this background.
Anyone got any ideas?

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 Post subject: Re: Made Something Awhile ago.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:53 pm  (#2) 
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it looks like the picture-filled-text on top is the base text
seems it has a small bevel

the white cut out silhouette is an offset grown selection of the basetext

and there is a less grown grey textlayer underneath the basetext, plus a dropshadow

should not be too difficult to replicate


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 Post subject: Re: Made Something Awhile ago.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:08 pm  (#3) 
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All I can say is Wow! it looks great :D
Sorry I'm not any help I can't play around in GIMP on Win8...and I'm way out of practice

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 Post subject: Re: Made Something Awhile ago.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:19 pm  (#4) 
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Thanks for that explanation Esper. I'm afraid it is over my head though actually. I just used a preset to make the text. - I do remember that much. I didn't do anything much. I had just started using gimp.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:20 pm  (#5) 
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Thanks Willy. Even though I cannot do much of significance I would be lost if I couldn't play with gimp.

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 Post subject: Re: Made Something Awhile ago.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:22 pm  (#6) 
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do you still have that texture with the handprints, sallyanne ?


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 Post subject: Re: Made Something Awhile ago.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:31 pm  (#7) 
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Can't find it just yet. Wasn't mine to keep. I haven't used it for anything else but I know where I might be able to find it.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:32 pm  (#8) 
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if you can provide it, i will try to recreate the effect


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 Post subject: Re: Made Something Awhile ago.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:52 pm  (#9) 
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Hi sallyanne,

I recognize that technique. You created text from a selection over the painted hands background. Then, you added a drop shadow and semi-flattened, which what gave you the white border around the text & shadow.

Here is my similar result, just a different font, and background.

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 Post subject: Re: Made Something Awhile ago.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:54 pm  (#10) 
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quick attempt

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 Post subject: Re: Made Something Awhile ago.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:11 am  (#11) 
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Seems a lot happens in 10 years - people move on etc.
It doesn't matter what background you use.


I just haven't been able to do it with the text?!
Edit. That's it except I was able to have some of it clear so the background showed through! Thank you both.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:40 am  (#12) 
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Bit of messing around and I got it. (sort of) Don't know what gradient I used before to get the stripes on the bottom of the text but this time I used Flare Glow Angular 1 and coffee for the outline.
I didn't use a pattern in the text but made it transparent so the background could show through.
oops better attach a pic
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Tried with a different gradient - four bars.
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 Post subject: Re: Made Something Awhile ago.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:54 am  (#13) 
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GnuTux wrote:
I recognize that technique. You created text from a selection over the painted hands background. Then, you added a drop shadow and semi-flattened, which what gave you the white border around the text & shadow.

what is semi-flattening ??


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 Post subject: Re: Made Something Awhile ago.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:34 am  (#14) 
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Willy wrote:
All I can say is Wow! it looks great :D
Sorry I'm not any help I can't play around in GIMP on Win8...and I'm way out of practice


Willy with 8 you may restore the start menu and delete all apps (if you wish , i hate the apps on the PC i only like on smartphone , that can't support more powerful programs , and has touchscreen to handle them correctly )

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 Post subject: Re: Made Something Awhile ago.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:20 pm  (#15) 
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Esper wrote:
what is semi-flattening ??
The filter is located under Layer/Transparency/Semi-flatten. It flattens to the active background color.

Oregonian posted a good explanation of how it's used here.

It's normally used to dither indexed images and avoid the hard edges and aliasing associated with graphics interchange format files.

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 Post subject: Re: Made Something Awhile ago.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:12 pm  (#16) 
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GnuTux wrote:
The filter is located under Layer/Transparency/Semi-flatten. It flattens to the active background color.

Oregonian posted a good explanation of how it's used here.

It's normally used to dither indexed images and avoid the hard edges and aliasing associated with graphics interchange format files.
i see
not sure why you would use that for non-gif pictures

this white border doesnt make the pic look very clean
and if you wanted a good white border, a stroke would be probably much better, wouldnt it ?


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 Post subject: Re: Made Something Awhile ago.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:03 pm  (#17) 
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Well, sallyanne asked what was used in the original composition and it looked as if semi-flatten had been used. To me, "better" is subjective and it just depends on what effect you're after but yes, I normally only use semi-flatten when my final result will be a GIF, displaying that on a background of the same color I used to semi-flatten, which gives me a nice anti-aliased shadow on the GIF, when displayed on the same background color.

Target format aside, the final result you get from semi-flattening depends on the amount of transparency you have adjacent to non-transparent or semi-transparent pixels. There are certainly plenty of methods to achieve anti-aliasing, which will give different results than is achieved by semi-flattening.

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 Post subject: Re: Made Something Awhile ago.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:17 pm  (#18) 
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Esper - this white border doesnt make the pic look very clean
and if you wanted a good white border, a stroke would be probably much better, wouldnt it ?


You're right, assuming your talking about the thin white worder. I didn't purposely put it there. The outline just stayed after getting rid of all the one colour (white) The other (fatter border, is from the drop shadow
I wonder if I would be able to stroke over the thinner?

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 Post subject: Re: Made Something Awhile ago.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:33 pm  (#19) 
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sallyanne wrote:
You're right, assuming your talking about the thin white border. I didn't purposely put it there. The outline just stayed after getting rid of all the one colour (white) The other (fatter border, is from the drop shadow
I wonder if I would be able to stroke over the thinner?
yes i do, but as i asked before:
why do you use the semi-flatten ?
why not merge it down as usual ?

was it because the original picture is in gif-format ?

and also yes to trying the stroke
just save your alpha selected text as a path and then stroke it


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 Post subject: Re: Made Something Awhile ago.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:29 am  (#20) 
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Esper wrote:
yes i do, but as i asked before:
why do you use the semi-flatten ?
why not merge it down as usual ?

was it because the original picture is in gif-format ?

and also yes to trying the stroke
just save your alpha selected text as a path and then stroke it


I don't - I flatten or merge. Never heard of semi-flatten. I feel embarrassed :oops: because I have a good idea how the original was created but I cannot do it the same (I have no idea which gradient I used only that I was able to flush a lot of the colour out if indeed there was colour/white there.)
As said I was very early in learning Gimp so Glossy was an easy logo type for me to do.
I did one in glossy on a white background. merged it and then I selected all the white with colour tool select. Colour to alpha (white to transparent) then put the logo on top of a picture.
The original would most likely have been a jpg too.

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