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 Post subject: Re: Using G'MIC User Filters & Presets in Ubuntu Linux
PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:40 pm  (#21) 
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Do you mean the plugin is called gmic_gimp
You can't have yet any file called .gmic yet, must be created

But you may check if you found the right place refreshing the gmic filter, that will create (as i wrote before) a new file called .gmic_def.1472

we will do nothing to that .gmic_def.1472 but the point is that indicate the place where add the .gmic file

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 Post subject: Re: Using G'MIC User Filters & Presets in Ubuntu Linux
PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:49 pm  (#22) 
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added screen shot on last post...so if that is my gmic, how do I update? do I add a .gmic folder somewhere? Sorry for all the questions...I'm sort of lost on the mac still.


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 Post subject: Re: Using G'MIC User Filters & Presets in Ubuntu Linux
PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:13 pm  (#23) 
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Let's start from the top:

2-ton: open GIMP, open an image, and then run G'MIC. Then on the G'MIC interface, click refresh.

Now do a find for your version of G'MIC (this will show on the top menu bar of G'MIC when called from GIMP Filters menu. It will create a definition file named .gmic_def.xxxx (xxxx=your version of G'MIC). Do a find for .gmic_defxxx after you refresh G'MIC.

P.S. Your screenshots aren't displaying for me.

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 Post subject: Re: Using G'MIC User Filters & Presets in Ubuntu Linux
PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:30 pm  (#24) 
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no.
I get up to refreshing gmic, and then I put G'MIC 1.4.7.0 in the finder search and nothing comes up. Let me rephrase that, I searched .gmic_def.1470
also I have preferences set up to show all extensions, supposedly that is the same as showing hidden files
*scratches head*


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 Post subject: Re: Using G'MIC User Filters & Presets in Ubuntu Linux
PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:35 pm  (#25) 
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You are using the wrong search criteria

Try searching for .gimp_def.1470 instead (this is a hidden file, so you may need to make it so that your folders display hidden files. I dont know how macs are set up for hidden files)

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 Post subject: Re: Using G'MIC User Filters & Presets in Ubuntu Linux
PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:40 pm  (#26) 
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ghost posting, lol. I'm gonna go help dh clean the basement...and hopefully later I can figure this out. At least the gmic I have now works great!


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 Post subject: Re: Using G'MIC User Filters & Presets in Ubuntu Linux
PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:47 pm  (#27) 
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A little something about viewing hidden files on a mac here:

http://www.mactricksandtips.com/2008/03 ... -pane.html

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 Post subject: Re: Using G'MIC User Filters & Presets in Ubuntu Linux
PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:57 pm  (#28) 
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I found this interesting bit at G'MIC Flickr, for using custom filters with Mac:

the link here: http://www.flickr.com/groups/gmic/discu ... 086492694/

Forest (GKweb.it) says:

How to add custom filters?

As a reference, I explain shortly here how to install custom-made new filters which appear now and then in this Flickr group and are not included with the standard G'MIC distribution.
-Download the filter: it will appear as a text.
-Copy the text into a plain text file and save it with the name ".gmic" in the User Home folder. It will be loaded the next time you use G'MIC.

The problem is that on Mac OSX the files with a name beginning with a dot are usually used by the System and always kept invisible, and the user is normally prevented from editing them and from creating them manually (programs can create them automatically, anyway).
If you try to save a file with a name beginning with a dot, an alert appears suggesting you not to do so ("Filenames beginning with a dot are used by the System, choose another name").

Anyway, on Mac OSX, these files can be produced, saved, opened and edited with programs like BBEdit Lite (a text editor for programmers, from http://www.barebones.com/) and with other specialized text editors (BBEdit has also a special menu item "Open Hidden…" to edit them) and with any text utility which can find and open hidden "invisible" files (those with the names beginning with a dot).
The .gmic file (as well as the ".gmic_def" and the ".gmic_faves" files, created automatically by G'MIC), once created, is really in the User Home directory (folder) and this method works well.

You can also use (for example) Tex-Edit Plus (from http://www.tex-edit.com/ ) instead of BBEdit to create, open, edit and save the "invisible" files (in Tex-Edit Plus, if you press the "option" key before you choose "Open" it becomes "Open as text…" and you can see and open also the invisible files).

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 Post subject: Re: Using G'MIC User Filters & Presets in Ubuntu Linux
PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:17 pm  (#29) 
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tbh, it's pretty much over my head for now. I will just use gmic as it is for a while, then when I have learned more of osx, I can figure it out.


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 Post subject: Re: Using G'MIC User Filters & Presets in Ubuntu Linux
PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:48 pm  (#30) 
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to summarize :
the file is hidden

to see (read ,open ,edit or create ) hidden files you may use the "Open Hidden…" option of a this text editor for Mac
BBEdit Lite http://www.barebones.com/
P.S
Tomorrow i may use a bit a MAC i may try to see if and where is a option to show hidden files, in case you didn't solve yet

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 Post subject: Re: Using G'MIC User Filters & Presets in Ubuntu Linux
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:49 am  (#31) 
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@ Mahvin

Not sure if you read this viewtopic.php?f=9&t=985&start=10

Anyway the script posted there by paynekj may be very useful for recover the setting used by Gmic

I wonder if would be possible another script, to copy the layer names of a xcf in a text file,
change the formatting of the file, from

[G'MIC] Graphic Novel FX : -gimp_photocomix_booost21,4.36364,10.4727,5,20,0.12,14,0,0.5,0.54,2.90909,9,0.936364,1,0.5,0.54,0.78
To
{USER_INPUT_HERE}{Graphic Novel FX}{gimp_photocomix_booost2}{gimp_photocomix_booost2}{1}{4.36364}{10.4727}{5}{20}{0.12}{14}{0}{0.54}{2.9}{9}{0}{0.93}{1}{0.5}{0.54}{0.78}

ask user input ,for fill {USER_INPUT_HERE}with "preset name" (for each layer )
and than saving the text file in same folder of the image

Would basically allow to resurrect data (as example of a effect you was not able to replicate ) as a new GMIC preset
(more exactly ready to be added to the gimp.faves file)

I 'm bumping that to see if possible would be really cool, and the 2 scripts would really complete each other

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 Post subject: Re: Using G'MIC User Filters & Presets in Ubuntu Linux
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:49 am  (#32) 
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While saving the layer names in a file would be OK, I'm not seeing how it would be possible to produce the result you are looking for. There are no clues in the layer name that explain how the numbers should be grouped together. Your example file only used -gimp_boost1 and that seems to have a different number of parameters to your example of -gimp_photocomix_booost2 (or is it -gimp_photocomix_booost21 or -gimp_photocomix_booost???).

I assume that these layer names are automatically generated by G'MIC (?) It might be easier if G'MIC were to create them in the format you describe above.

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 Post subject: Re: Using G'MIC User Filters & Presets in Ubuntu Linux
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:54 am  (#33) 
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sure but there is a key...That is simply a list !
The point is just extract each item, separation between items of the list is clearly marked,

Each item of the list may separated by " [ "or "]" or" : "or even ","doesn't matter what is used, they all must be seen simply as separators,they separate the different items of the list

The main change is enclosed in {} each item of the new list,( replacing the " separators" ("[ ]:,")

[G'MIC] Graphic Novel FX : -gimp_photocomix_booost2 1,4.36364,10.4727,5,20,0.12,14,0,0.5,0.54,2.90909,9,0.936364,1,0.5,0.54,0.78

Only exceptions

For the FIRST item there is a change :
always from "[G'MIC]" to "{Custom name }" where custom name is a user input

the SECOND item is just identical, just should be enclosed in {}

the THIRD is almost identical but for the skipped - prefix,
and should be doubled so" -gimp_filter" should become become {gimp_filter} {gimp_filter}
So item 3 is doubled in the new list would become item 3 and item 4,

for the rest of the list each remaining item has simply to be enclosed in {}

As example the numeric string above will become
{1}{4.36364}{10.4727}{5}{20}{0.12}{14}{0}{0.54}{2.9}{9}{0}{0.93}{1}{0.5}{0.54}{0.78}
from
1,4.36364,10.4727,5,20,0.12,14,0,0.5,0.54,2.90909,9,0.936364,1,0.5,0.54,0.78


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I please you to overlook if this "the THIRD is almost identical but for the skipped "- " prefix, and should be doubled
so" -gimp_filter" become {gimp_filter} {gimp_filter}
" is not literally exact.
For the purpose that works in 80% of cases
Even more important, for the remaining 20% the manual correction is trivial and require few seconds.
(in case you are curious ," -gimp_filter" may also be {gimp_filter} {gimp_filter_preview} .

So please don't care about :
Fixing manually those "worst cases" would be really easy and quick , no problem

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 Post subject: Re: Using G'MIC User Filters & Presets in Ubuntu Linux
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:13 am  (#34) 
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@Paynikj

If you read before, sorry , now typos and grammatical errors should be fixed ,before was unreadable

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 Post subject: Re: Using G'MIC User Filters & Presets in Ubuntu Linux
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:13 am  (#35) 
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Thanks, I obviously miss-read what you wrote.

So far I have made the layer name:
[G'MIC] Graphic_Boost-melt : -gimp_boost1 1.27273,2.67,0.08,6.36364,1,0.309091,0.842178,3.59091,1,4,0.281818,1,0.5,1,2.40909

into :roll:

{Graphic_Boost-melt}{-gimp_boost}{-gimp_boost}{1.27273}{2.67}{0.08}{6.36364}{1}{0.309091}{0.842178}{3.59091}{1}{4}{0.281818}{1}{0.5}{1}{2.40909}

And you want a different user input for each layer? - that's where it gets more complicated :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Using G'MIC User Filters & Presets in Ubuntu Linux
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:07 pm  (#36) 
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Quote:
So far I have made the layer name:
[G'MIC] Graphic_Boost-melt : -gimp_boost1 1.27273,2.67,0.08,6.36364,1,0.309091,0.842178,3.59091,1,4,0.281818,1,0.5,1,2.40909

into :roll:

{Graphic_Boost-melt}{-gimp_boost}{-gimp_boost}{1.27273}{2.67}{0.08}{6.36364}{1}{0.309091}{0.842178}{3.59091}{1}{4}{0.281818}{1}{0.5}{1}{2.40909}


close enough, but for the "-" prefix that must be deleted

Quote:
And you want a different user input for each layer? - that's where it gets more complicated :roll:


why complicated ?

I open a xcf, and launch the script:
i am supposed to know how much layers has that xcf so all what needed is a text field, where wrote names, 1 for each layer again as in a list... to the user match ,as example ,7 layers with 7 names ,and not with 6 or 8
Names may be enclosed in "" (i.e "blue halo""soft green " ) or separated by commas (blue halo, soft green), or by another symbol,whatever you prefer

Last the text file has to be saved in the same place of the xcf...name is not too important but may be fine if could correspond to the first user input
As example in case of a xcf with 2 layers :
if user input as names " blue_halo,soft_green" the name of the text file may be blue_halo_presets.txt

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 Post subject: Re: Using G'MIC User Filters & Presets in Ubuntu Linux
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:56 pm  (#37) 
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I forgot a detail for this last script:
if a layer has not a name starting with "[" should be skipped,
only layers with as first character in the name "[" are to be considered

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 Post subject: Re: Using G'MIC User Filters & Presets in Ubuntu Linux
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:00 am  (#38) 
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Try this:

#!/usr/bin/env python
# Author: Kevin Payne
# Copyright 2011 Kevin Payne
# License: GPL v3
# GIMP plugin to export the layers of an .xcf as png images
#  each png file has the name of the layer
# For PhotoComix:- http://gimpchat.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=985
# The saving layer name in a file was requested here:
#   http://gimpchat.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=978&sid=36599f7fc54901155c684afdfc03a5c2&p=10910#p10872

from gimpfu import *
import os.path
import pygtk
import gtk

# something to help with debugging
def debugMessage(Message):
    dialog = gtk.MessageDialog(None, 0, gtk.MESSAGE_INFO, gtk.BUTTONS_OK, Message)
    dialog.run()
    dialog.hide()

# unique_filename from http://stackoverflow.com/questions/183480/is-this-the-best-way-to-get-unique-version-of-filename-w-python
def unique_filename(file_name):
    counter = 1
    file_name_parts = os.path.splitext(file_name) # returns ('/path/file', '.ext')
    while os.path.isfile(file_name):
      file_name = file_name_parts[0] + '_' + str(counter) + file_name_parts[1]
      counter += 1
    return file_name

def format_layer_name_for_saving(layer_name):
    #[G'MIC] Graphic Novel FX : -gimp_photocomix_booost2 1,4.36364,10.4727,5,20,0.12,14,0,0.5,0.54,2.90909,9,0.936364,1,0.5,0.54,0.78
    # into {USER_INPUT_HERE}{Graphic Novel FX}{gimp_photocomix_booost2}{gimp_photocomix_booost2}{1}{4.36364}{10.4727}{5}{20}{0.12}{14}{0}{0.54}{2.9}{9}{0}{0.93}{1}{0.5}{0.54}{0.78}
   
    # Throw away the [G'MIC]
    new_layer_details = layer_name.replace("[G'MIC] ", "")
    temp = new_layer_details.find(":")
    label = new_layer_details[0:temp-1]
    new_layer_details = new_layer_details[temp+2:]

    # extract the function name   
    temp = new_layer_details.find(" ")
    function = new_layer_details[0:temp-1]
    function = function.lstrip("-")
    new_layer_details = new_layer_details[temp+1:]

    # replace the commas with curly brackets   
    new_layer_details =new_layer_details.replace("," , "}{")
   
    return "{" + label + "}{" + function + "}{" + function + "}{" + new_layer_details + "}"
   
def photocomix_safe_file_name(file_name):
      # replace any illegal characters to be on the safe side
      file_name = file_name.replace(":", ";")
      file_name = file_name.replace("/", ";")
      file_name = file_name.replace("\\", ";")
      file_name = file_name.replace("?", ";")
      file_name = file_name.replace("*", ";")
      file_name = file_name.replace("\"", ";")
      return file_name

   
# this is the bit that saves the layers
def export_layers_as_png(img):
    layer_ids = img.layers                         # get the layers in the image
    directory_name = os.path.dirname(img.filename) # where is the source image
   
    gimp.progress_init()
    num_layers = len(layer_ids)                   
    for layer_num in range (0, num_layers):        # work through layers (change to "num_layers-1" if you don't want the bottom layer)
      layer_name = pdb.gimp_drawable_get_name(layer_ids[layer_num]) 
      layer_name = photocomix_safe_file_name(layer_name)     

      # build the new file path - puts the saved layers in the same place as the source image
      png_file = os.path.join(directory_name, layer_name + ".png")
      png_file = unique_filename(png_file)

      pdb.file_png_save2(img, layer_ids[layer_num], png_file, png_file, 1, 9, 1, 1, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1)
      gimp.progress_update(layer_num/num_layers*100)
      # The End of the main routine

# menu registration
register(
    "python-fu-export-layers-as-png",
    "Export Layers as PNGs",
    "Export Layers as PNGs",
    "paynekj",
    "GimpChat",
    "12.01.2011",
    "Export Layers as separate PNGs",
    "*",
    [
         (PF_IMAGE, "image",       "Input image", None),
    ],
    [],
    export_layers_as_png,
    menu="<Image>/contributed/"
    )

# This one is to format the layer names and save them in a text files
def photocomix_save_layer_names(img, layer_descriptions):
    layer_ids = img.layers                         # get the layers in the image
    directory_name = os.path.dirname(img.filename) # where is the source image
   
    layer_description_list = layer_descriptions.split(",") # make a list out of the user input string
   
    num_layers = len(layer_ids)  # how many layers are there in total
    text_file_name = ""          # place to store the name of the text file
    text_file_contents = ""      # place to store the contents of the text file
    description_num = 0          # index for the user supplied list
    for layer_num in range (0, num_layers):        # work through layers
      layer_name = pdb.gimp_drawable_get_name(layer_ids[layer_num]) 
      if (layer_name[0] == "["):                 # only work on layers that have a name starting with [
        this_layer_description = layer_description_list[description_num]  # get the user supplied description for this layer
        description_num += 1
        formatted_line = "{" + this_layer_description + "}" + format_layer_name_for_saving(layer_name) # build the line to be written in the file
        text_file_contents = text_file_contents + formatted_line + "\r\n"
       
        # if this is the first layer to be saved then get the user description to use as the file name
        if (len(text_file_name) == 0):           
          parts = formatted_line.split("{")
          text_file_name = parts[1]
          text_file_name = text_file_name.rstrip("}") + "_preset.txt"
       
    text_file_name = photocomix_safe_file_name(text_file_name)   # make sure the filename is safe to use
   
    textFile = open(os.path.join(directory_name,text_file_name)  , "w")
    textFile.write(text_file_contents)
    textFile.close
    debugMessage(text_file_name + " Saved")


#
register(
    "python-fu-photocomix-save-layer-names",
    "Save Layer Names",
    "Save Layer Names",
    "paynekj",
    "GimpChat",
    "13.01.2011",
    "Save layer names in a file",
    "*",
    [
         (PF_IMAGE, "image",       "Input image", None),
         (PF_STRING, "layer_descriptions", "Layer Descriptions:", "Layer1,Layer2"),
    ],
    [],
    photocomix_save_layer_names,
    menu="<Image>/contributed/"
    )

main()


I've put both parts in the one file because they naturally go together. So this one replaces the other. Again they will both appear in the contributed menu, for you to move where you actually want them.

I have made the dialog ask for your user input as a comma separated list, but I'm not happy with this as it's going to be too easy to get the number of inputs different to the number of layer names to save, so in the longer term I'll have a look at prompting for the individual layers - which is going to get complicated. (unless some python expert is reading and wants to offer a solution)

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 Post subject: Re: Using G'MIC User Filters & Presets in Ubuntu Linux
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:46 am  (#39) 
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Thank a lot Paynekj i am copying now in my script folder

paynekj wrote:
I have made the dialog ask for your user input as a comma separated list, but I'm not happy with this as it's going to be too easy to get the number of inputs different to the number of layer names to save, so in the longer term I'll have a look at prompting for the individual layers - which is going to get complicated.


I agree with you but i was impatient to have a script ready, more here the target user is supposed to be a bit more advanced then usual so a error message as "Incorrect input for "names":quantity mismatch" should solve

But i agree that will be better a separate text field for each layer.

I believe may be another ,maybe more serious problem for script n2:
or ALL the layers were edited with Gmic or the script could not work as expected

In case the solution may be for script 2:
consider only layers with names starting with "[" skipping all others

But i am very happy you saved me from a manual work so hard to be almost impossible, and i believe this script would be really useful to many gmic users, even as it is now

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 Post subject: Re: Using G'MIC User Filters & Presets in Ubuntu Linux
PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:06 pm  (#40) 
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downloaded a program that let me see hidden files and folders...there is none called .gmic. There is only the one that is .gmic_gimp. Also, all the gimp stuff seems to be in my name, and an alias is in the hard drive list. Hmmm. I am not knowing just where to place a new folder to put new presets in.


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