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 Post subject: My first contributions to the Rijks Museum
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:35 pm  (#1) 
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One of my early work that in the end of 17th century inspired Willem van de Velde' to create "De windstoot' , that you will found in the same museum (here https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/collection/SK-A-1848 )

humm the Rijks Museum doesn't support direct image link here the link

https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/mijn/crea ... photocomix

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 Post subject: Re: My first contribution to the Rijks Museum
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:10 pm  (#2) 
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I'm confused ... did you paint these?


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 Post subject: Re: My first contribution to the Rijks Museum
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:20 pm  (#3) 
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I was kidding it is a digital manipulation of a old dutch painting hosted in the Rijskmuseum of Amsterdam
still playing ...

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 8:37 pm  (#4) 
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I love the lighting in the edited pics. The originals look rather dark.


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 Post subject: Re: My first contribution to the Rijks Museum
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:40 pm  (#5) 
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Yes age ,exposition to air and light modify the colors of pigments ... i didn't pretend to emulate the original colours it would be a severe task even for a team of specialist .

The idea was just to play with the intensity of the colors and the chromatic contrast
(and, for the last on bottom ,modify a bit the style)

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 Post subject: Re: My first contribution to the Rijks Museum
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:10 pm  (#6) 
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PC where would we be without your sense of humor? :)
Those turned out really good.

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 Post subject: Re: My first contribution to the Rijks Museum
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:48 pm  (#7) 
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Glad you like Rod,
I must admit to have start lurking in the Rijsk museum database looking for realistic panorama to use for my 3D fractal, and since was the rijsmuseum i started with old flemish painters ...

the last 2 are Italian panoramas seen by Flemish Painters

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 Post subject: Re: My first contribution to the Rijks Museum
PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:28 pm  (#8) 
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Het kasteel van Batavia, Andries Beeckman, 1661

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Dutch Asian Network, Batavia Castle"

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Oh another of my early work

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that was used as reference for the incision

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used for this book cover

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De handelsloge van de VOC in Hougly in Bengalen " Hendrik van Schuylenburgh, 1665

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That is obviously derived from another of my early works , "Dutch Asian Network : Bengala "

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 Post subject: Re: My first contributions to the Rijks Museum
PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:30 pm  (#9) 
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My page at the Rijks Museum site is growing ...
https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/mijn/crea ... photocomix

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 Post subject: Re: My first contributions to the Rijks Museum
PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:53 pm  (#10) 
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Last

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from the framed detail of

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Another detail

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 Post subject: Re: My first contributions to the Rijks Museum
PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:51 pm  (#11) 
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My version of "Maria Maddalena"

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Maria Magdalena, Jan van Scorel, ca. 1530

https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/collection/SK-A-372

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 Post subject: Re: My first contributions to the Rijks Museum
PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:43 pm  (#12) 
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I found another of my early work, a dramatic naval battle , with crashes, flames even bodies flying all over

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oh this below, from the Rijks Museum catalog looks similar, what a coincidence ! :roll:

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This is much less spectacular :oops:

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oh...even this was used as reference by another Dutch painter :flirt ,
i didn't knew that dutch painters liked so much my early works :sun !

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humm ...maybe in the last should recover some of that bluish tone of sea and sky
my has light area really too white...that bluish may be better... oh well too sleepy now maybe tomorrow

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 Post subject: Re: My first contributions to the Rijks Museum
PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:56 am  (#13) 
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The original sketch ,from Jan Asselijn is from ca. 1635
And i was quite surprised to see that were almost no visible change here (Roma "isola tiberina", on the river tevere , in the very centre of Rome )...only visible change is that "Ponte Rotto ", the broken bridge is now broken at both sides , here is still connected to one side

Even if the sketch was done more then 4 century ago , as far for the shapes could be from yesterday...even more surprising because is not a "ruin " (except the bridge ) there is a hospital there , a church , a lot of activities andeven some very very few lucky people having a house or a atelier there

I love that place , i like much the sketch from Jan Asselijn and so i tried to convert in a sort of ink wash

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here ,below,the original ,again from the Rijskmuseum

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full size https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/my/collec ... T-1991-3,0

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 Post subject: Re: My first contributions to the Rijks Museum
PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:14 pm  (#14) 
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Fantasy ?

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No , it was a panorama close to Napoli in 1880 , as seen by another dutch painter ,Josephus Augustus Knip
below his original

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 Post subject: Re: My first contributions to the Rijks Museum
PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:29 pm  (#15) 
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back to sketch...

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Humm looking better maybe i should eliminate the cloud on the left...doesn't look right or needed

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Drie rustende koeien, Nicolaes Pietersz. Berchem, 1646 - 1652

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https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/collection/RP-P-H-1319

A little wallpaper (also 1600x1200 if you like )

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from

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 Post subject: Re: My first contributions to the Rijks Museum
PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:05 pm  (#16) 
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The additional lighting effect does make these look better PC. :)

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 Post subject: Re: My first contributions to the Rijks Museum
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:31 am  (#17) 
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Glad you like Lylejk
Would be at least masochistic try to compete or even improve the originals, but the experience of the original is possible only visiting the museum

Then you may see the texture of the brushstrokes, and even the effect of the passed time has another meffect, alas even in museums are more and more limitations , barriers, divisors glasses

For a period i worked as helper of a for a ...not sure if the word is restorer or conservator :
We had boxes full of the content of Etruscan thumbs each box corresponding to 1 thumb,
mostly were fragments of broken jars, and the works was clean up the fragments, figure out what fit together and indicate how glue the most complete
(imagine you have a dozen of different glasses, that all broken in tiny fragments all mixed, and then mixed with dirt, ash and whatelse you may imagine:
the job was put together again the glasses, just more difficult because the more then 2000 years of erosion that modify original fragments)

But the point is that i had access to the museum when was closed , and i could visit the rooms where others were working on similar
projects, and i could really see close what was there , and was amazing

But we mostly see reproductions not the real thing, and yes as far for reproduction i believe "creative" reproduction as mine may give better a idea

I chose mostly dutch , Flemish , painters that were renewed for the richness and intensity of their colors while reproduction show often dull or even washes away colors:
by not pretending to be true to the original is maybe possible get closer to the original effect then possible for aseptic reproduction

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 Post subject: Re: My first contributions to the Rijks Museum
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:09 am  (#18) 
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i was just looking to one of my early works ...not too bad

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but then i found again something really similar in the Rijskmuseum

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and that happened again, here 2 different studies

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and now Landschap met twee eiken, Jan van Goyen, 1641

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https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/my/collec ... SK-A-123,0

at least my tree is much taller ...

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 Post subject: Re: My first contributions to the Rijks Museum
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:21 am  (#19) 
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Old painting where not sized for computer screen so often both thumb and fullsize view went badly cropped
(you may see all , but only zooming out...)
If should be displayed crop maybe is possible make nicer crop...this is not only crop, details are a bit sharpened, image ratio is slightly changed and i used a sort of sharp smoothing

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from De vaart bij ’s-Graveland, Pieter Gerardus van Os, 1818
https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/my/collec ... -A-3230,13

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 Post subject: Re: My first contributions to the Rijks Museum
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:58 am  (#20) 
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and dedicated to the most famous dutch painter , lost and finally found

THE OTHER SIDE OF VINCENT , A SELF PORTRAIT

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the Title should become self explicative if confronting with the more known version hosted in the Rijskmuseum

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yes !...this is from Van Gogh

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