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 Post subject: Spirals of Golden Globes
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:54 pm  (#1) 
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 Post subject: Re: Spirals of Golden Globes
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:22 pm  (#2) 
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Lovely.... they look like a bed of shells at low tide.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:51 pm  (#3) 
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That looks beautiful! The details on those shapes, the golden tones and lighting. Very good.

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 Post subject: Re: Spirals of Golden Globes
PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:37 am  (#4) 
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Beautiful! Did you use DIFS for these?


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 Post subject: Re: Spirals of Golden Globes
PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:31 am  (#5) 
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Amazing, well done!


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 Post subject: Re: Spirals of Golden Globes
PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:52 am  (#6) 
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Awesome! Great color scheme you've used. I find those fractal arts always so interesting to look at, mainly because I have no idea how people can make those :P


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 Post subject: Re: Spirals of Golden Globes
PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:02 pm  (#7) 
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Excellent PC! :) Your stuff is so fun to look at.

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 Post subject: Re: Spirals of Golden Globes
PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:53 pm  (#8) 
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And from there beautiful patterns may pop out ...

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 Post subject: Re: Spirals of Golden Globes
PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:56 pm  (#9) 
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 Post subject: Re: Spirals of Golden Globes
PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:00 am  (#10) 
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I would watch the hell out of a tutorial for making this. Awesome work!


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 Post subject: Re: Spirals of Golden Globes
PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:23 am  (#11) 
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CRogers wrote:
I would watch the hell out of a tutorial for making this. Awesome work!

Ditto. Great work as usual PC :bigthup

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 Post subject: Re: Spirals of Golden Globes
PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:18 am  (#12) 
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CRogers wrote:
I would watch the hell out of a tutorial for making this. Awesome work!


Thank , glad you like

About a tut, the first image is a 3d fractal

The others are all variant created with gimp and/or xnview with a really simple process:
alternating 2 different but very simple types of "Virtual Mirror" effect

Do you want a tut for everything or only for part 2, (starting from the first image of the first message ,derive the other )

MINI TUT

For part 2 (create all the variants )i am not sure is needed a tut, the process is so easy i may explain with few lines and 3 examples , i just need your attention on the first image :
Imagine that image 1 is square , and you want add guides to divide the that in 9 identical part

Ok ?
Now adapt the same concept to the rectangle , add guides to divide in 9 and LOOK THE CENTRAL PART
Look well...and now look here below

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Gotcha ? The central rectangle, the central tile is identical but here is reflected in all directions and reflections replace the content of the other 8 sectors in the periphery

This is available from Gmic>Arrays and Frames> Mirror Array:
In the Mirror Array filter change "Symmetry Axis" from default " XY_axis" in "2XY_axis"
and set "Crop" to about 33

This is one of the 2 types of mirrors i used
the other is this

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That is he effect a kaleidoscope, that i use almost always with very few "petals" , here i used only 2

NOW what is important is the iteration : if now i apply the first effect , to the image above i get

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To use another example, maybe more clear ,again directly derived to image 1
(Very seldom i use with the kaleidoscope so much "petals" as here, more the petals more the result risk to be obvious, and to end in sort of psychedelic wheels or mandalas ... but here is no bad)

SO this is a kaleidoscopic variation note the centre

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now we may apply the other type of mirror

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see how the centre is replicated at the borders, creating a new and often more regular pattern ?

a last example with the added tweak , do you remember

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now do the same , but apply automatic equalization to dramatically change hue by removing the "gold" colour dominant ...

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PS for kaleidoscope i use ...Kaleidoscope by Medhi a free PS filter (i don't use PSPI, i just use my viewer and copy/paste with Gimp
Mathmap Kaleidoscope come close but is not at the same level
I never use GMIC kaleidoscope, for some reason can't do what i wish , no way, and i always failed to explain to David what exactly may be improved , my bigger problem with it is that the transitions between "petals" ,beween " sectors" is not smooth and seamless as i need .

I always forgot that gimp, in the Gegl operations, has a mirror filter that look interesting

Anyway may 2 tools for this routine are
Kaleidoscope by Medhi
Gmic> Array and Frames> Mirror Array

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 Post subject: Re: Spirals of Golden Globes
PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:23 am  (#13) 
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sallyanne wrote:
CRogers wrote:
I would watch the hell out of a tutorial for making this. Awesome work!

Ditto. Great work as usual PC :bigthup


Thank Sallyanne :hi5

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 Post subject: Re: Spirals of Golden Globes
PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:38 pm  (#14) 
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Thanks for the tutorial! Can you do one for how you made the 3D fractal? You rock!


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 Post subject: Re: Spirals of Golden Globes
PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:31 pm  (#15) 
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CRogers wrote:
Thanks for the tutorial! Can you do one for how you made the 3D fractal? You rock!


Thank to reply , i was fearing you did not noticed my reply, or better that was a mini tut in my reply.
It is everything clear ? i may transform in a more classic tut , thinking better i should collect the various mini tut i wrote, always in my art post (a LOT on gimptalk , but several here too ) ) because are too difficult to find (even for me )

Also i should learn to use video for the Tut because most of my "secrets" are secret because so simple that are so easy overlook, because mind expect always something complex;
A video may SHOW that is so simple, words are more tricky

About Mandelbulb 3D complexity of 3D fractals is close to infinite, if you pretend to comprehend the math and geometrical (obviously most not euclidean geometry and math ) you may got very old before even start

Luckily there is another way around, FIRST you start doing fractals ...and if you do some fact, will become evident, others may ignite your interest for the math involved , but for sure you don't need to become a mathematician to make excellent fractals

Practically about a tut on 3D fractal i may show how to start, and improve more and more even starting from 0 knowledge

Anyway my approach doesn't require any previous knowledge, BUT require some ...interactivity

As practical example now you would like to learn quickly how to create amazing 3D fractal ? Fine, i may show you

BUT first you should do a little exercise and post you results ,then i will do, this the deal :cool

The exercise is define and show me which are the "amazing fractals" you would like be able to do , and to do YOURS (meaning that your goal is not just copy ) this means a list, long as you wish of links

VERY IMPORTANT

1) you must filter your search :
you may search here

http://www.deviantart.com/?q=Mandelbulb+parameters
http://www.deviantart.com/?qh=&section= ... parameters

well i may add more links but there are already a few thousands to browse , so i think may suffice ...

2) When choosing :
imagine that your are not searching for the best images , of course you should really like what you chose , but after that narrow your results considering the images you selected as DOORS:
you want select the door(s) for the most fascinating word(s)...chose the world you like most, and consider the original fractal render as just a door

And really 3D renders , if matched with theirs parameters , ARE doors to words you may navigate in 3D, and navigating you may discover treasures not even imagined by the author of the original render

To conclude i may anticipate the main points of my tut:

1) open parameters

2) use the 3d navigator

3) render

4) change lights and colours
NOTE that once you have rendered, modification of colours/lights may be applied in real time, instantly, without need to render again

5) SAVE

there is a 6 but doesn't require additional knowledge ,only will to experiment, and that you already are comfortable till 5.
anyway 6 is
6) Tips to modify the rest of parameters

But we start with 1, make your list , post it, and i will be ready :paint

PS in the while if your are interested to a tutorial on symmetry and creativity
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=106&start=0&hilit=Feel+your+Power

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 Post subject: Re: Spirals of Golden Globes
PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:44 am  (#16) 
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Ah, I've actually played with this before! It's called mandelbulber on Linux. I shall have to play with it again, as you suggest. Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Spirals of Golden Globes
PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:57 am  (#17) 
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No that is another program !"Mandelbulber" works also on Win, is Open Source but is not the same

"Mandelbulb3d" run on windows , run very well on linux with wine and has the great advantage of much more user "parameters" available ... free but not open source

I already planned a Tutorial but the tutorial will really work better if first you (and who else want participate)chose some images , NOT to just copy , but to explore , modify or anyway make yours

Obviously i may chose a example but everything become is easier and more fun
if you (as other interested )choose first something you really like , also because the very process to chose , to browse several ,select from there a group of favourites, and from there chose 1 or 2 f ...would make evident some commune characteristics.

Also apply the tut to a imagine you like much and the wish to be able to do something alike make the whole process smoother and easier, and know that the end will be a immediate artistic result help a lot

This my approach to learn and teach very quickly, ...
There is also the more classic approach , slowly building up from the basis
but using that are already many tutorials on M3D( i.e some excellent on Youtube ) no need to add 1 more

anyway a process that naturally uses both brain hemispheres and not just 1, allow to learn and integrate what you learn at much more then double speed, and to remember and integrate at a much deeper level what learned :
what you remember of the subject-matters you didn't like at school ?
You learned them sufficiently to pass schools exams, but the content of most of the boring subject-matters you was forced to learn in that way did not vanished quickly after you passed the exams ?

On the contrary if you was a passionate player of something, did you not still remember that games rules in details even after years you have no more occasion to play it ?

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 Post subject: Re: Spirals of Golden Globes
PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:30 am  (#18) 
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CRogers wrote:
Ah, I've actually played with this before! It's called mandelbulber on Linux. I shall have to play with it again, as you suggest. Thanks!


Longer reply before , here i summarize in few words

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I shall have to play with it again, as you suggest. Thanks!


I never suggested that, i am ready to do a tut if you wish

i only ask you to chose 1 example of what you will like to do !


And seems my method works because even if i didn't write yet, just explain how the tut will be make you feel that you don't need any more a tut to start ...

And is true tut is not strictly needed but may help .

what i suggested as preliminary exercise :
browse images, chose a favourite, set a artistic goal ("i would like do something as THAT with a clear image of "THAT" in front") etc
motivate and kept interested the "right" hemisphere, the more creative part of mind ,

So when the other , the more rational hemisphere ,that able to use math will come to play , will not fight with the other half to impose focused attention, but instead would be welcome and fully supported because a commune interest ,because coincidental goals

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 Post subject: Re: Spirals of Golden Globes
PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 3:42 pm  (#19) 
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Hi. And thanks again for the replies. I'm sure someone else would love a tutorial for mandelbulb 3D, but since it is not open source and does not run natively on Linux, I would not be able to use it in my toolset. Thanks again for your generous offer for help, though! I will continue with mandelbulber for now and see how far I can get. I don't invest time in learning programs that are not open source at the moment, mainly because updates and support are not guaranteed for linux, and will not work across all platforms, but also because the open source solutions are so extensive, that I have no reason to learn anything else right now when I haven't even learned all the open source ones. It's an investment in knowledge for the future. I consider you one of the local fractal experts, however. Your work is beautiful. Thanks again.

Have you played with mandelbulber?


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 Post subject: Re: Spirals of Golden Globes
PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:44 am  (#20) 
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Thanks for excellent tips, PhotoComix.

Your post inspired me to create this. All done in GIMP, starting from a small blurry cloud of gray noise. :hehe

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