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 Post subject: [Solved] Can't remove Wilbur's eyes: because its WilbEr!
PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:03 pm  (#1) 
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Greetings,

I'm going through the online manual, and under "2. Main Windows" it says this:
The Toolbox window displays “Wilber's eyes” along the top of the dialog. You can get rid of the “Wilber's eyes” by adding the following line to your gimprc file: (toolbox-wilber no). It only affects the toolbox. The eyes in the Image window are only visible when you do not have an open image.

Well, I've added (toolbox-wilber no) to my Gimprc (personal preference) file using Notepad but the eyes are still showing over the Toolbox.

Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks,

Starkman


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 Post subject: Re: Can't remove Wilbur's eyes
PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:15 pm  (#2) 
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Starkman wrote:
GIMP Version: 2.8.10
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Greetings,

I'm going through the online manual, and under "2. Main Windows" it says this:
The Toolbox window displays “Wilber's eyes” along the top of the dialog. You can get rid of the “Wilber's eyes” by adding the following line to your gimprc file: (toolbox-wilber no). It only affects the toolbox. The eyes in the Image window are only visible when you do not have an open image.

Well, I've added (toolbox-wilber no) to my Gimprc (personal preference) file using Notepad but the eyes are still showing over the Toolbox.

Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks,

Starkman

Have a look here...
https://twodayslate.wordpress.com/2008/ ... n-gimp-26/
I'm not sure if this works with Gimp 2.8. it did however work in 2.6.

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 Post subject: Re: Can't remove Wilbur's eyes
PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:17 pm  (#3) 
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Starkman wrote:
Well, I've added (toolbox-wilber no) to my Gimprc (personal preference) file using Notepad but the eyes are still showing over the Toolbox.

Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

The file name should be gimprc (all lowercase letters). Make sure that your text editor did not rename it to gimprc.txt (I've heard that Notepad likes to rename files behind your back). Also, make sure it is in the .gimp-2.8/ subdirectory of your home folder (the gimprc file should be in the same directory as all of the brushes, scripts, plug-ins, et cetera folders specified in "Edit->Preferences::Folders").

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 Post subject: Re: Can't remove Wilbur's eyes
PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:24 pm  (#4) 
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Gimp has two, use .gimp-2.8/gimprc
/etc/gimp/2.0/gimprc
/home/[USER]/.gimp-2.8/gimprc

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 Post subject: Re: Can't remove Wilbur's eyes
PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 5:00 pm  (#5) 
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Why would you want to anyway?

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 Post subject: Re: Can't remove Wilbur's eyes
PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 5:35 pm  (#6) 
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Wallace,
I think that's exactly what I did.

Sallyanne,
I'm a very plain-vanilla guy. I don't like anything distracting or cluttering; Wilbur's eyes and image do so.

Saulgoode,
Hmm. Every file name has an extension (well, last time I looked). What is it for gimprc, so I know what it should be named? Oh, and yes, the file is in the noted folder you mention.

Okay, here's what the gimprc file looks like (except it's all the lines are run together with spaces here and there when viewing it in Notepad):
# GIMP gimprc
#
# This is your personal gimprc file. Any variable defined in this file takes
# precedence over the value defined in the system-wide gimprc: C:\Program
# Files\GIMP 2\etc\gimp\2.0\gimprc
# Most values can be set within GIMP by changing some options in the
# Preferences dialog.

(monitor-xresolution 120.000000)
(monitor-yresolution 120.000000)
(user-manual-online no) (toolbox-wilbur no)


# end of gimprc

Oh, and I might add that after editing the file and then doing a search for it, there's now a gimprc~ file as well! Opening it shows the same contents


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 Post subject: Re: Can't remove Wilbur's eyes
PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 5:55 pm  (#7) 
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salugoode wrote: "I've heard that Notepad likes to rename files behind your back".

No it doesn't rename them behind your back exactly but it can fool you - if you want to save a file with no extension name you have to expressly choose "Save as type: All types (*.*)" otherwise it will add extension ".txt" by default (even if the file was opened with the same name!).

And, worse, the "All types (*.*)" option is right at the TOP of the list of options, unseen usually - you have grab the scrollbar and push it up one notch before the option is even displayed!

@Starkman:
No, not all filenames do have extensions - they have been optional right from the earliest days of both DOS and Unix.
On modern systems the vast majority of files DO have extensions, used as an indication of the type of file, but there are a few (such as gimprc) which do not. Be on your guard when handling such files because many programs (even the otherwise laudable Notepad++) are not very clever at dealing with null extension names.


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 Post subject: Re: Can't remove Wilbur's eyes
PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:02 pm  (#8) 
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@Starkman:

PS. if your still using the standard Notepad which comes with Windows you should probably upgrade to Notepad++ anyway - it's much better, and its free! (Just Google "Notepad++".)


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 Post subject: Re: Can't remove Wilbur's eyes
PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:20 pm  (#9) 
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Starkman wrote:
Wallace,
I think that's exactly what I did.

Sallyanne,
I'm a very plain-vanilla guy. I don't like anything distracting or cluttering; Wilbur's eyes and image do so.

Saulgoode,
Hmm. Every file name has an extension (well, last time I looked). What is it for gimprc, so I know what it should be named? Oh, and yes, the file is in the noted folder you mention.

Okay, here's what the gimprc file looks like (except it's all the lines are run together with spaces here and there when viewing it in Notepad):
# GIMP gimprc
#
# This is your personal gimprc file. Any variable defined in this file takes
# precedence over the value defined in the system-wide gimprc: C:\Program
# Files\GIMP 2\etc\gimp\2.0\gimprc
# Most values can be set within GIMP by changing some options in the
# Preferences dialog.

(monitor-xresolution 120.000000)
(monitor-yresolution 120.000000)
(user-manual-online no) (toolbox-wilbur no)


# end of gimprc

Oh, and I might add that after editing the file and then doing a search for it, there's now a gimprc~ file as well! Opening it shows the same contents
Try moving (toolbox-wilbur no) down a line, snug left margin.
(monitor-xresolution 120.000000)
(monitor-yresolution 120.000000)
(user-manual-online no)
(toolbox-wilber no)

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 Post subject: Re: Can't remove Wilbur's eyes
PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:50 pm  (#10) 
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Odinbc,
Tried that...didn't work.

jontait2,
You said, "No it doesn't rename them behind your back exactly but it can fool you - if you want to save a file with no extension name you have to expressly choose "Save as type: All types (*.*)" otherwise it will add extension ".txt" by default (even if the file was opened with the same name!)." Using "*.*" actually adds the .txt extension. As long as you simply choose "Save" it's fine.

Well, not sure what else to do. I suppose I'll just have to live with Wilbur and his peering eyes!


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 Post subject: Re: Can't remove Wilbur's eyes
PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:22 pm  (#11) 
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Did you read this.
Gimp Help wrote:
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The Toolbox window displays “Wilber's eyes” along the top of the dialog. You can get rid of the “Wilber's eyes” by adding the following line to your gimprc file: (toolbox-wilber no). It only affects the toolbox. The eyes in the Image window are only visible when you do not have an open image.

I've tested with my user gimprc, it works as expected.

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 Post subject: Re: Can't remove Wilbur's eyes
PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:18 pm  (#12) 
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Odinbc wrote:
Did you read this.
Gimp Help wrote:
Tip

The Toolbox window displays “Wilber's eyes” along the top of the dialog. You can get rid of the “Wilber's eyes” by adding the following line to your gimprc file: (toolbox-wilber no). It only affects the toolbox. The eyes in the Image window are only visible when you do not have an open image.

I've tested with my user gimprc, it works as expected.


Yeah, the eyes are there whether an image is present or not.


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 Post subject: Re: Can't remove Wilbur's eyes
PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:33 pm  (#13) 
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Starkman wrote:
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"Using "*.*" actually adds the .txt extension. As long as you simply choose "Save" it's fine."

I've just checked using standard Notepad and I think the trick is that (to save a file with null extension) you have to specify the filename with a dot at the end (eg. "gimprc.") then select "*.*" and Save.

My point about upgrading to Notepad++ still stands - standard Notepad doesn't handle newlines properly (which is why you're seeing the text on one or two long lines instead of a full screen's worth) and is very limited. If you're going to go modifying text files get a proper text editor such as Notepad++ and save yourself a lot of trouble.

BTW I've put "(toolbox-wilber no)" into my gimprc and it works fine - I now have no Wilber's eyes and so more room for the toolbox, etc. (Win 7 64bit, Gimp 2.8.14)

Edit: "(toolbox-wilber no)" NOT "(toolbox-wilbur no)"


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 Post subject: Re: Can't remove Wilbur's eyes
PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:51 pm  (#14) 
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Starkman wrote:
Well, not sure what else to do. I suppose I'll just have to live with Wilbur and his peering eyes!

Open the Windows File Explorer (if they still have that), open the .gimp-2.8 folder in you user's directory, right-click on the gimprc file, and choose "Rename". This command should bring up a dialog that shows the actual name of the file and allow you to delete the ".txt" extension (it worked in Windows 3.1 anyway).

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 Post subject: Re: Can't remove Wilbur's eyes
PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:30 pm  (#15) 
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I remember Windows for Workgroups 3.11. :yup

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 Post subject: Re: Can't remove Wilbur's eyes
PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:39 am  (#16) 
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I've installed Notepad++, tried saving the gimprc file in it, still the same problem.


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 Post subject: Re: Can't remove Wilbur's eyes
PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:46 am  (#17) 
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I would suggest providing us with the full, exact path+filename of the file you are editing -- "c:\Documents and Settings\Starkman\.gimp-2.8\gimprc" or somesuch.

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 Post subject: Re: Can't remove Wilbur's eyes
PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:19 am  (#18) 
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I would like to mention adding this to a gimprc file with a custom theme will mess up your theme and if you have pspirc it will empty it also. Just be for warned. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Can't remove Wilbur's eyes
PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:30 am  (#19) 
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Perhaps you could re-vist the manual entry and then type EXACTLY what it says there:

(toolbox-wilber no)

NOT

(toolbox-wilbur no)

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 Post subject: Re: Can't remove Wilbur's eyes
PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:59 am  (#20) 
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For those that wonder:

http://www.gimp.org/man/gimprc.html

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