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 Post subject: Gimp 2.6 vs gimp 2.8
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:59 pm  (#1) 
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which one do you guys like the most?

i like gimp 2.6, 2.8 its a bit frustrating 2.6 its much easier to use i even installed it again super easy to use not like 2.8 well its the same kinda but its more annoying




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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 vs gimp 2.8
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:13 pm  (#2) 
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I like pretty much all of the new features and new scripting enhancements. I'm not a fan of the save/export design decision.

So far, I've found 2.8 to be a bit less stable and more resource hungry than 2.6.

With the exception of a few bugs, I'm happy with the 2.8 release and haven't found the need to revert back to 2.6. I look forward to maintenance updates that will correct some of the issues end users do have.

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 vs gimp 2.8
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:24 pm  (#3) 
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2.6 for me. I've not seen any features in 2.8 that I need, and the bugs that exist in 2.8.0 are show stoppers for my use-case, so I'm staying where I am.

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 vs gimp 2.8
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:33 pm  (#4) 
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The biggest difference (and it can be annoying) is 2.8 can no longer directly save in your format of choice unless it's a GIMP format. You have to export to jpg or png or bmp ...etc. I do have to add that 2.8 has been rock solid stable and only crashed (if you would call it that) once since I installed it a few months back. 2.6 would lock up sometimes 3 times in the same day. It might be because I'm now using a 64-bit version of GIMP; just don't really know. Had the lockup issue ever since I installed Win7 64-bit nearly 3 years ago now. :)

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Also, there's still a few bugs that have been patched in developers test releases (every odd internal number like 2.8.1, 2.8.3, 2.8.5, etc. is now considered beta; that's the other change) but they've yet released 2.8.2 to fix the little bugs such as jpeg size preview and gimprc conflict betweet user filter and PSPI for instance. Still waiting on the 2.8.2 release (any developers out there listening?). :)

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 vs gimp 2.8
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:57 pm  (#5) 
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I have 2.8 on my Laptop but I stay with 2.6 on my desktop which is my standby. I haven't had any crashing issues with 2.6 since I allocated more memory use. I just like the way 2.6 works and feels. Too old and too lazy to learn how to use 2.8 when I can knock something out quickly using something I am familiar with. IMO 2.6 is a reliable workhorse like XP and 2.8 is like trying to learn how to navigate in Vista or Win 7 after working with XP for several years. Obviously I'm speaking strictly from a Windows and personal preference standpoint.

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 vs gimp 2.8
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:40 pm  (#6) 
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lylejk wrote:
... Still waiting on the 2.8.2 release (any developers out there listening?). :)


If the discussion on the GIMP developers mailing list is anything to go by, it's not going to be any time soon- developers listing the obstacles to a release doesn't inspire confidence: http://www.gimpusers.com/forums/gimp-de ... 2-8-1-when

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 vs gimp 2.8
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:47 pm  (#7) 
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idc if theres gonna be any new gimp im sticking with 2.6


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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 vs gimp 2.8
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:00 pm  (#8) 
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Gimp-2.8 for me.I like the new single window mode.
I can live with the save/export options and it hasn't crashed on me yet.
There really do not seem to be any bugs that make my production difficult either.
And ALL my photoshop plug-ins run through the Gimp-2.8/Linux version so i am happy with that. :)

It seems to me that more bugs are found within the Windows compiled versions than the Linux and Mac releases.

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 vs gimp 2.8
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:05 pm  (#9) 
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paynekj wrote:
2.6 for me. I've not seen any features in 2.8 that I need, and the bugs that exist in 2.8.0 are show stoppers for my use-case, so I'm staying where I am.

Kevin


Same as that and I can't use Gimp Painter in 2.8 and my computer is too slow to run it smoothly.


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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 vs gimp 2.8
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:16 pm  (#10) 
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i have both versions installed

mainly because i need to know what size a file ends up, when i save it as jpg
but im also a kind of conservative guy and i like to stick with what im used to (thats 2.6)

but i used 2.8 on my latest project


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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 vs gimp 2.8
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:54 pm  (#11) 
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paynekj wrote:
lylejk wrote:
... Still waiting on the 2.8.2 release (any developers out there listening?). :)


If the discussion on the GIMP developers mailing list is anything to go by, it's not going to be any time soon- developers listing the obstacles to a release doesn't inspire confidence: http://www.gimpusers.com/forums/gimp-de ... 2-8-1-when

Kevin


Thanks for the link Kevin. Looks like, after having 12 forks in GIMP 2.6, that they don't want that to be the case for 2.8. I say, let's at least package all the improvments already fixed (brush delay when color management is enabled, jpeg preview save size, and gimprc fix for starters) into another sub-release then let the release after that be the remaining catchall release. Oh well; patient I was with the 2.0 through 2.6 issues; patient I'll be with 2.8 too. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 vs gimp 2.8
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:11 pm  (#12) 
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I did not liked much such rudeness to impose learning of the different meaning between save and export,:
More then the differences i found relevant that both operation as usually needed so better do simultaneously ,( and taking care that the original xcf is always saved ), instead then debate on lexical subtleties.

But since there is a script doing exactly this (even included by default in partha portable build ,and in mine) i can't see anymore reason to complain...Save and export script from RobA is available from long and solve so why still worry about..it could be solved just by adding the script

for the rest i am a bit worried about a bug with graphic tablet, still i didn't test with mine so i am not sure how much may be a problem

for the rest i can't see relevant bugs only improvements and not few

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 vs gimp 2.8
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:12 pm  (#13) 
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Gimp 2.8.2 has just been released. It will mostly benefit Mac folks and of course the jpeg issue has been fixed.


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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 vs gimp 2.8
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:33 pm  (#14) 
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PhotoComix wrote:
for the rest i am a bit worried about a bug with graphic tablet, still i didn't test with mine so i am not sure how much may be a problem

What is the bug you mention?
I have not experienced any serious issues with 2.8 and my Wacom Intuos 4.
Just a couple of minor things.
1. I find I need to start Gimp running by using the Tablet to click the program icon. Failure to do this will mean although the tablet will let you move the cursor and select tools, it will not paint on the canvas unless, as I said I use the tablet to start the application running.
2. As a novice Gimper, I frequently move the cursor around and read the "tooltips" displayed to remind myself what the particular tool icon is. With the tablet it is nearly impossible to hold the cursor still enough, and for long enough, to trigger the tooltip to be displayed.
Both these issues have been previously reported and are not show stoppers IMO.
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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 vs gimp 2.8
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:55 pm  (#15) 
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I have 2.8 on all of my machines, I use most of the new features except cage transform, I mainly like the single window mode. Perpetually having to resize windows was a real pain. I do wish someone would update gimpthemes so it worked with 2.8

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 vs gimp 2.8
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:12 pm  (#16) 
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partha wrote:
Gimp 2.8.2 has just been released. It will mostly benefit Mac folks and of course the jpeg issue has been fixed.


Thanks for the heads up Partha; installing it as I type this. May or may not re-install 2.6 depending on how well 2.8 got patched. lol

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 vs gimp 2.8
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:23 pm  (#17) 
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GIMP appears to be running find and now both PSPI and user filter are happy with each other. Get only one error when I first launch GIMP; not sure what dpb.exe is though. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 vs gimp 2.8
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:36 pm  (#18) 
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lylejk wrote:
GIMP appears to be running find and now both PSPI and user filter are happy with each other. Get only one error when I first launch GIMP; not sure what dpb.exe is though. :)

DBP is David's Batch Processor. You probably have to rebuild it with the new DLL.


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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 vs gimp 2.8
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:29 pm  (#19) 
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I've been waiting for 2.8.2 so I'll switch to that after I finish my current commission.

I love the new brush dynamics - especially the angular dynamic that eliminates the need to make a rotating gih.
I also really like the smooth stroke option. It is much like Inkscape's brush weighting and takes the jitters out of tablet drawing.
With the brush dynamics I almost don't need the ink tool anymore...

Love the cage transform tool.

Don't like the new selection graphics - they seem a bit clunky for me.

Getting to like the single window mode, but I still want to be able to drag layers/channels from one image to another so hopefully that will get fixed in the future...?

I'm perfectly happy with the export/save differentiation as it 100% complements my workflow.

I had some issues with GTK and my wacom under windows which is why I'm still using 2.6.11, and I also needed colour management which had to be disabled under 2.8.0 or it was way too sluggish. Anyone know if that is fixed under Windows in 2.8.2?

Layer groups are OK, but I won't really be able to use them until layer group masks works.

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 vs gimp 2.8
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:45 pm  (#20) 
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Thanks Partha; PC (other thread here) lead me to what it was. Never batch (not sure how I even got it; lol). I just moved it to a tmp directory since I never delete unless absolutely necessary. All's completely well now. :)

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