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 Post subject: Restoring Ganesha (with 5 png renders )
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:03 pm  (#1) 
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I was searching CC images of Ganesha, the Hindu deity with elephant head , strictly related to wisdom and prosperity , and i was quite deluded of what i could find , most were just photos of posters or sculptures , almost everything at little size and really low res , some with washed out colours or pixelled

So shortly i tried to somehow restore , pump it up , the most interesting i found , basically only using gmic

In the series are included a few "renders"

As far for the credit i found all them on "Wikimedia" page for "Ganesh" here
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ganesha ( note the subfolders too ) , alas still i can't see how to give more exact credit for each image without spending hours to trace and copy :gaah

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in the western world there are anecdote about Elephants scared by little rats,
Ganesha instead has a very good relation with rats, and one in particular that often play also as his horse.
(Rat here is also a symbol of the "lower instincts" while Ganesh of the Higher, and i found so nice that that Ganesha "rules" over the lower instincts not by force not by imposing but naturally , joyfully ...

The rat is also a dear friend not a demon to control or a brute to force

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ALAS ,there are exception also here, also because every Artist could not avoid to colour and interpret , consciously or not, the myth according to his point of view ...his own or that of the client

And so dualistic mind can't only image a fight, have to rule with force and severity over the Lower instincts even using pain, even using a whip

As here were the rat looks as a stupid brute to convince with a whip
( in all the series this is what i like less, but is good to show 2 very different paths and school of thinking )

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But even more interpretations are possible as in those renders
(feel free to use the render,...in case just let me see for what ...)

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Then there is a very nice young Ganesh .... even animated in 3D , here the English version
https://www.youtube.com/show/balganeshh ... rid&view=7

And on the opposite a old Ganesha

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Younger

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Again riding different creatures

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About what i did this is the original ( scaled down for GC )

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With a umbrella (also this is a render BG is transparent )

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Well this last is apparently out of topic but somehow ended with the other and i like it so much so
here as last ...a worshipper

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ORIGINAL

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 Post subject: Re: Restoring Ganesha (with 5 png renders )
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:11 pm  (#2) 
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photo comix: i know the problem - i often search for pictures of things and end up finding things i first have to try and restore. i think the outcome looks good enough and i followed the link to see more of what you had to work with but got lost quickly. as a service to curious fellow gimp chatters, couldn't you post the originals for each picture, or at least post full links for each?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:15 pm  (#3) 
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 Post subject: Re: Restoring Ganesha (with 5 png renders )
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:41 pm  (#4) 
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AnMal wrote:
photo comix: ...or at least post full links for each?

Find how to automatically save page image links to credit the author is my bigger problem
If to find 1 i need 10 minutes find for 20 would be 200 minutes more about 3 and half hours of the most boring and tedious repetitive work :gaah ...just a nightmare , it should be possible find a solution

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i think the outcome looks good enough and i followed the link to see more of what you had to work with but got lost quickly. as a service to curious fellow gimp chatters, couldn't you post the originals for each picture,


YES ! this i much easier !:bigthup

And not only that, in many case i did a sort of batch, not literally but i used very similar technique and setting for several

So i may include also several xcf , where 1 (or 2) of the layers are always copy of the originals , and HERE ANOTHER GOOD NEW the edited layers embed in their layers names the parameters of the Gmic command used (May look complex retrieve the setting from that BUT may be used( almost ) as it is from GMIC> Various> Local code :

a example to clear, if layer name is [G'MIC] Graphic Novel : -gimp_graphic_novelfxl 0,2,6,5,20,0,0.699301,6.99301,0,1,0.727273,0.804196,1.32867,0,1,6,0.314685,1,1,0.447552,0.881119,0.699301

Just remove the part in red that till and including the ":", the rest is the equivalent command for Gmic
(all that decimals are not strictly needed but are saved anyway )
And if you found a "Local Code" useful, you may "fav" it, so you may recall at wish

Anyway allow me a few minutes to pack originals and edited image (i hope the zip will be in the limit for GC attachment , if not i had to search a host
I fear that i should use my DA sta.sh , the xcf are always heavy.

Well i will be back later but first another before/after :

this was one of the better originals

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Another that i did not posted before because the different subject

BEFORE

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(here in the original photos it was even a error of parallax , that i lazily solved with a slight crop .. )

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 Post subject: Re: Restoring Ganesha (with 5 png renders )
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:46 pm  (#5) 
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Humm

No , looking betteri did not chose the best before/after examples ...

Ok i will be back with a zip later

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 Post subject: Re: Restoring Ganesha (with 5 png renders )
PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:14 pm  (#6) 
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PhotoComix,
:clap :jumpclap :yr :wow :bigthup :flirt :bowdown

Amazing! I loved that colors!
How do you colorize ?
Had some tutorial teaching this technique?
Really a nice effect! I was impressed!
This effect is achieved manually or by use of scripts?

There is a technique that reminds me of this effect ( http://blog.patdavid.net/2011/11/gettin ... nting.html ), but do not know if it manages to come to reach this result.

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 Post subject: Re: Restoring Ganesha (with 5 png renders )
PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:20 pm  (#7) 
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Akros wrote:
PhotoComix,
:clap :jumpclap :yr :wow :bigthup :flirt :bowdown

Amazing! I loved that colors!
How do you colorize ?
Had some tutorial teaching this technique?
Really a nice effect! I was impressed!
This effect is achieved manually or by use of scripts?

There is a technique that reminds me of this effect ( http://blog.patdavid.net/2011/11/gettin ... nting.html ), but do not know if it manages to come to reach this result.

:clap :coolthup


I didn't read well patdavid tut from a quick glance i believe he uses more steps ,and that is more geared toward a more photorealistic result.

yesterday i promised to prepare a zip with all material and a how to, and then i felt immediately asleep.

Now i am just back home but in a couple of hours i should do..

anyway i used only 1 filter, then i enforced and corrected the effect of the filter by adding on top dups of the original image in overlay and/or multiply mode depending of how much the original were washed out :
multiply mode tend to darken so is often good with washed out images ,as photos or in this case poster whitened by long exposition to the light , ..overlay/soft light will darken the shadow but symmetrically will lighten the highlight, obviously this when the 2 layer to merge are duplicates or close variants

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 Post subject: Re: Restoring Ganesha (with 5 png renders )
PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:57 pm  (#8) 
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Sorry for the delay ...
see viewtopic.php?f=23&t=6468&start=0 , there is a link for the xcf , each xcf contain also the duplicates of the original used

there i will answer to question if any ...

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 Post subject: Re: Restoring Ganesha (with 5 png renders )
PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:19 pm  (#9) 
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well i know this is a sort of double post and almost OT because there is not Ganesha here

but is to give a idea of the Before/After

Some of the images included that i did not submit before (because there is not Ganesha )

Lakshmi

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original

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Again Visnu with Garuda

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Original used

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One of the "bad guys "

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From

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