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 Post subject: Too many fonts
PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2026 2:02 pm  (#1) 
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New to this forum but a long-time Gimp user:

Using either Gimp 3.0.6 or Gimp 2.10, on a Mac currently running Sequoia 15.6.1, the font list shows a lot of fonts with names beginning with a dot, including a lot of ".SF ..." fonts. I don't know where they are. I can't find them on the drive. I want to delete them or at least keep them from showing up on the Gimp font list.

Same thing occurs on an older Mac running High Sierra 10.13.6, but on that system the "dotted" fonts are in alphabetical order ignoring the dot, while on the newer Mac they're at the top of the list.

I still want to know where they are and whether I can get them off the font list.


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 Post subject: Re: Too many fonts
PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2026 10:23 am  (#2) 
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You've already got answers on gimp-forum.net.

If they can't help, maybe there is a Mac dedicated forum to help better? Or put your question into an ai like perplexity:
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/on-a-m ... SNa2z5cymQ

Which tells you what you already know. The system doesn't allow seeing and removing certain fonts, probably for good reasons.


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 Post subject: Re: Too many fonts
PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2026 8:10 pm  (#3) 
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quietreader wrote:
You've already got answers on gimp-forum.
If they can't help, maybe there is a Mac dedicated forum to help better? Or put your question into an ai like perplexity:
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Which tells you what you already know. The system doesn't allow seeing and removing certain fonts, probably for good reasons.

Perplexity tells me that the SF fonts are in /System/Library/Fonts. They are, but there aren't enough files in there to account for all the fonts that show in Gimp.

I looked at the New York fonts, which are the serif counterparts of the San Francisco fonts. There are just two New York files in the system font folder, but I counted (possibly miscounted) 28 .New York fonts in Gimp: Regular, Medium, Semibold, Bold and Heavy, some of them with G1 through G4 variants, and the corresponding italic fonts.

I copied the SF and New York font files to a folder in my Library, opened the two New York font files in FontForge, removed the dot from the filenames and exported them as ordinary ttf files. The funny thing is, FontForge could only find one font in each file, and whie the fonts Gimp gets from them are all text fonts, the fonts FontForge gets from them are titling fonts with extreme stroke contrast.

The mystery now is how so many different fonts are in one ttf file. I assume that's a trade secret that we will never be able to figure out.


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 Post subject: Re: Too many fonts
PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2026 6:58 am  (#4) 
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marty39 wrote:
Perplexity tells me that the SF fonts are in /System/Library/Fonts. They are, but there aren't enough files in there to account for all the fonts that show in Gimp.
....big snip.....
The mystery now is how so many different fonts are in one ttf file. I assume that's a trade secret that we will never be able to figure out.


That is the way it works, If you look at a listing of SF fonts https://github.com/sahibjotsaggu/San-Fr ... -Pro-Fonts taken from Apple Lots of individual .otf fonts and a few .ttf Those .ttf fonts are 'family' and contain sub-versions. This my linux fontmanger showing SF-Pro.ttf which has 9 variations and those 9 variations in Gimp fonts dock.

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Other applications will have a display more to your liking, Inkscape for example. But to change the fonts dock in Gimp just because Apple uses SF as a system font, is possibly a big ask for the Gimp developers.

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