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 Post subject: Re: Any info on GimpTalk?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:42 am  (#41) 
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It was finished when I got up this morning.

Starting time 9/21/2010 @ 16:40pm, Finish time: 9/23/2010 @ 12:10am. I can't find a size but it was 11+gb when I went to bed at 23:30pm last night. Apparently it finished in less than 1 hour from that time so I'd say the finished mirror is somewhere between 11 & 12gb.

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 Post subject: Re: Any info on GimpTalk?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:46 pm  (#42) 
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I'm reminded of an article I read that said something like 'the projected demand for data storage in the entire world would be double the amount available in 2015(?)'. It also said something like '70% of all data stored would be redundant'.

I wonder if those numbers are/will be correct.

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 Post subject: Re: Any info on GimpTalk?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:17 pm  (#43) 
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maybe you finished just in time, as now GT is again offline
(too bad that i had no disk space or money for another HD so i could not follow my own suggestion..but i am happy that you did)

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i may suggest to check if the Internet Archives may index gimpchat ?
I am not sure if Internet Archives/Wayback Machines may cache forum but if will be possible will be great

Internet Archives allow to browse side even if are dead or offline, and with a cool Firefox extension (Resurect this page ) could be done with a right click (dead link? ...right click and chose "Resurect this page " )


Here this precious side (helped me to recover a lot of info, scripts and plugins from dead links )

http://www.archive.org/web/web.php

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 Post subject: Re: Any info on GimpTalk?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:48 pm  (#44) 
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Yes. I'm familiar with the web archives site and have used it quite a few times for sites that no longer are online.

For sure, I was just in the nick of time to get it before GT went off line again. Now I have to figure out how to browse my offline GT stuff.

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 Post subject: Re: Any info on GimpTalk?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:13 pm  (#45) 
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Should be an index.php page somewhere in there. =)
Right click and open that in your browser.

All the way back from Dec 04 to Aug 08 =)
http://web.archive.org/web/*/gimptalk.com

PC , i could not find the add-on you suggested.I tried searching Resurrect This Page and got 0 results.
What is the name of the add on in FireFox, for archiving web pages?

wait i think i found it...is this it?
Mozilla Archive Format (with Faithful Save) by Christopher Ottley, Paolo Amadini

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:19 pm  (#46) 
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Rod wrote:
Should be an index.php page somewhere in there. =)
Thanks. Actually it's index.html, but I have two of them. The one in the folder I made for the download that I'd already tried didn't work, just gave me html links to webfiles.

Opened the folder named gimptalk with all the files in it and found another in there and that worked! . Now I can browse the website offline. Thanks, Rod!!! :wh

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 Post subject: Re: Any info on GimpTalk?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:20 pm  (#47) 
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Would this be helpful for the gimptalk owners if they need to put a back up back online, or is it just helpful for whoever downloads it? It is kind of handy to have all the tutorials and info backed up so you can always access it. :bigthup

PC, I hope you're right about the privacy thing. My own little forum has a private section for members that post things there that they wouldn't on an open section. Would hate to think that everything there wasn't private after all.

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Yeah for getting it to work O! :wh

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 Post subject: Re: Any info on GimpTalk?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:24 pm  (#48) 
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I can't get into any thing private like the private forums and pm's.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:30 pm  (#49) 
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hah! ... my old detmerdesign.com site is archived from 2003.
Won't show the page though, just the images.

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 Post subject: Re: Any info on GimpTalk?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:53 pm  (#50) 
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PC , i could not find the add-on you suggested.I tried searching Resurrect This Page and got 0 results.
What is the name of the add on in FireFox, for archiving web pages?

wait i think i found it...is this it?
Mozilla Archive Format (with Faithful Save) by Christopher Ottley, Paolo Amadini


No is not that the name of the extension is "Resurrect Pages" https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2570/
Internet Archive is the most useful but not the only option that the extemsion offer

here the full list

* CoralCDN
* Google Cache (plus text-only version)
* Yahoo! Cache
* The Internet Archive
* MSN Cache
* Gigablast Cache
* WebCite

About GT , it was a temporary quirk is back online

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PC, I hope you're right about the privacy thing. My own little forum has a private section for members that post things there that they wouldn't on an open section. Would hate to think that everything there wasn't private after all.


Only the GT CEO has more permission then me and Griatch and i am sure I can't access to any PM,
(except that i posted or were posted to me) the only (almost) sensitive data i can get as admin is the mail used to register
That program is not something sneaking and sniffing inside servers, it just automatize saving what accessible normally on the web

Then i don't know if some good hacker could do more but in case i really doubt would be interested to spy PM of GT users

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 Post subject: Re: Any info on GimpTalk?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:16 pm  (#51) 
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Thanks PC! I installed the correct one.Very cool. =)
O you are very welcome.

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 Post subject: Re: Any info on GimpTalk?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:09 pm  (#52) 
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I installed the Firefox extension and was able to browse http://www.wingimp.org and found this tutorial that I wrote from a printed copy I had. Still no author of the tutorial is available.

This is what I got using the Resurrection add-on: Reflection Tutorial.

This is the tutorial that I made from the printed copy: Shiny Text.

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 Post subject: Re: Any info on GimpTalk?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:28 pm  (#53) 
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You know that is one thing i have not messed with much are the gradient maps...i really need to do that.
What a wonderful tutorial.Thank you O for sharing this. =)

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 Post subject: Re: Any info on GimpTalk?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:50 am  (#54) 
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Thanks O and PC for reassuring me that privacy is pretty well kept even if you download the whole forum. :)

I can't read private messages on my forum and I'm founding admin. Maybe in other forum software it's possible, or if you change your software, but the default phpbb forums don't have that features as far as I can tell.

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 Post subject: Re: Any info on GimpTalk?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:58 pm  (#55) 
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Okay, GimpTalk is down, again! I think it's time we made it official and started migrating everything over here.

It's a shame it's come to this, but GT is going down more frequently and seems to be on the verge of dieing.

We need to get permission to repost everything we can or convince the original posters to do it themselves.
I'm talking about this like guides and tutorials of course, not everything.

Does anyone agree with me? Is it time to give up on GimpTalk and make our new home here?

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 Post subject: Re: Any info on GimpTalk?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:23 pm  (#56) 
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Anything you've written in GT, you can make a copy of it and write it here in Gimp Chat.

I do not think that extends to material that other people have written. Each person could do only his/her stuff.

Hopefully Gimp Talk will get straightened out. If not, archives will be available I would expect.

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 Post subject: Re: Any info on GimpTalk?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:32 pm  (#57) 
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O actually convince me (break my arm? Nahh, but she did use unconventional methods to contact me (won't say what). lol) to join GIMPChat. It's definitely a shame that GIMPTalk keeps on tanking, but I'm not going to give up on GIMPTalk yet, but I have already stopped submitting artwork there (will that be always? We shall see). It still will be a lot of work to transfer tuts over here; many cool ones have already been done (hats off to those guys). Still, I do most of my online stuff in the cloud if you will (never keep things local anymore). Oh well. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Any info on GimpTalk?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:15 pm  (#58) 
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All of my tutorials i post 3 fold.. here at Gimp Chat, Gimp Talk, and The Gimper , and even a few movies on my own server.So I am not too worried about mine.
If you get permission from the Gimp Talk owners O and GnuTux, i agree to post the tutorials from Gimp Talk on my server.
It's life time and will never go down.Also if i need it, i can buy tons more bandwidth.
Just let me know.If Gimp Talk agrees to it then you can just snail mail me a copy of the disc O, and ill start FTP'ing everything up there.Just tutorials is what i mean.

I think it would probably require a post on Gimp Talk to ask though about this.
Just give me a heads up whatever you folks decide to do.

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