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 Post subject: Re: Text with a crisp highlight
PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:26 pm  (#41) 
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Esper wrote:
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Nice results! With your solid opaque samples, you'll notice that the text looks a bit like wax. This is because your diffuse shadow should be opposite the light source (move the bright patch up and to the left should solve that problem).
i dont get it
in my original tutorial the inner shadow was offset, but it seemed in your example it was not, so i went with that

on top of that all the lingo is confusing me a bit

the problem is, i still dont exactly know how you made your examples

it would be interesting and helpful to get the details on your technique
like blur values and basic steps
do you think you could post a short tutorial or at least post the xcf ?
that would be really cool !


I'm also uploading my xcf, maybe thats helpful


The xcf you posted is to one of the glass (transparent) ones. There is nothing to change on those. Both look great to me!
It's the opaque one (the non-transparent one) I was referring to needing minor changes to make it less like wax.

I have cleaned (and shrunk) my XCF file, and attached it here (2.2 MB):


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 Post subject: Re: Text with a crisp highlight
PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:34 pm  (#42) 
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CRogers wrote:
The xcf you posted is to one of the glass (transparent) ones.
my bad, sorry about that

this should be the right one


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 Post subject: Re: Text with a crisp highlight
PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:41 pm  (#43) 
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CRogers wrote:
I have cleaned (and shrunk) my XCF file, and attached it here
thank you very much !

i have no idea how you made the layer called 'diffuse reflection'
is that something made of more than one layer but merged down ??
or is it something bummapped ?


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 Post subject: Re: Text with a crisp highlight
PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:54 pm  (#44) 
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Fixed it.
I've re-named the two layers I moved up and to the left. I also added a mask on the second one.

Ideally, there shouldn't be any shadow on the side of the text closest to the light source in opaque (non-transparent) text.

Extra info (ignore if confusing):
The exception to the rule is wax, or frosted glass because with subsurface scattering, light does not bounce directly off the surface, but goes inward a bit, then bounces out from the inside (which is why your centered inner glow looked like wax).


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 Post subject: Re: Text with a crisp highlight
PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:00 pm  (#45) 
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Esper wrote:
CRogers wrote:
I have cleaned (and shrunk) my XCF file, and attached it here
thank you very much !

i have no idea how you made the layer called 'diffuse reflection'
is that something made of more than one layer but merged down ??
or is it something bummapped ?


It's the same as your inner glow layer just a blur of the original text. I think I also added a little airbrushed light to the top, just to make it look a bit more correct, since the blur tends to errode too much of the serifs (little tags on the ends of the letters). I also moved it up and to the right, like I did with your two inner-glow layers. My original file is huge, so I had to fake the effect without the benefit of bump-map.


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 Post subject: Re: Text with a crisp highlight
PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:15 pm  (#46) 
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Nice tutorial, one of these days I will remember to save selections to channels without following a tutorial! Glad I am having more time to try out tutorials again, and not to just be reading the boards quickly!
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 Post subject: Re: Text with a crisp highlight
PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:18 pm  (#47) 
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wow 2-ton, that looks pretty clean and crisp
good job !


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 Post subject: Re: Text with a crisp highlight
PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:27 pm  (#48) 
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thanks, and coming from the perfectionist that you are, that is a great compliment as well as a proof of your abilities to not only figure out how to do effects, but also how to write a tutorial that is clear.


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 Post subject: Re: Text with a crisp highlight
PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:15 am  (#49) 
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oh dear, thanks 2-ton :)

i already did that effect when i wrote the Ombre tutorial
but Efenston's script gave me the idea to show it as a standalone tutorial

and thanks to CRoger's input i was able to get finally something that looks like real glass
i would have never been able to do that without him and this thread !

there is now a win situation on three levels:
we have a great script, the effect is documented so that people know what it does and they could get it manually if they wanted, and CRogers pushed the boundaries


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 Post subject: Re: Text with a crisp highlight
PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 3:45 pm  (#50) 
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What a team! :hi5


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 Post subject: Re: Text with a crisp highlight
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:05 am  (#51) 
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Really nice work, guys & gals!

I give this thread two big :2thup

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 Post subject: Re: Text with a crisp highlight
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:01 pm  (#52) 
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Fantastic results! :)
Maybe another script should be written? :lol

You know for us lazy folk.

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