Let us speak clearly!
Gimp 2.8 is to be without GMIC ?
May have an impact on developers? (or GIMPCHAT opinion is ignored?)
So, the Gimp is then - imperfect, poor, not development ....
[Please add your agree with an opinion]
Each uses the best program - so if the developers break GMIC,
DO NOT let us talk loudly.

I'd venture to guess that G'MIC will be updated to run in 2.8. Not a part of the software package but it will be updated to install in 2.8

As usual gentle assertion of facts:
Hope that the GIMP team will retain a compatibility with the 'old' plug-in API in future GIMP versions, that is the only thing I wish ! I don't want to throw the plug-in to the trash too quickly.

Partha got G'MIC to work quite well in 2.7.3 64-bit MareroQ. If the 2.7x line technology is to be a forefront to 2.8, then I have high hopes that G'MIC will be fine (let's hope so anyway).

Hope is not enough !
I think so too


Is this excellent program needs support? Defend yourself ! With other support (Krita?)...
But we want it in the GIMP - yes or no?

I agree with the others. Being GMIC is powerful and very popular, I can't imagine it not being available to Gimp 2.8 users.

I think it would be a good idea for GMIC to be officially included in a future GIMP release but in lieu of that, it make sense for the developers to work together to ensure that there is an interface between the two. Worst case is that GMIC will have to be modified to properly interface with GIMP 2.8. I can't imagine a little coding being a complete show stopper.

Anyone know if there's some reason interfacing would be such a big deal with GIMP 2.8? I can't image there being radical changes that render all previous plug-ins obsolete.

Ronounours - Your program is the best support for Gimp!
Is it just my fears - whether there is a risk (as I understood) ?

I disagree. If G'mic were included with GIMP then its release schedule would need to coincide with that of GIMP's. It is probably not in the best interests of the G'mic project to limit updates to once every couple of years. If newer versions of the G'mic plug-in were offered during the interim, it would be just that much harder to install, and that much more difficult to track down the causes of bugs.


Minor version updates (e.g., 2.6 to 2.8) are not supposed to present any incompatibilities with the libgimp API or with the Procedural DataBase (PDB), and for the most part GIMP has been fairly consistent with maintaining this policy. When backwards compatibility is broken -- such as occurred with the changeover of Script-fu to being TinyScheme-based -- the developers can be expected to provide proper notification and instruction on how plug-ins should be updated.

My thinking was the framework of GMIC could be built-in to GIMP. With the various filters being modularized, new filters or updates to filters, could be added at anytime. You do make an excellent point, though. Any updates to the framework would be messy, unless they correspond to GIMP version release dates. Gimp releases seem to happen infrequently.


That's what I thought. The Script-fu change over at v2.4 wasn't that bad. If memory serves, dynamic variable fixes and a few parm changes to routine calls was all it took to update the vast majority of the .scm scripts.

My opinion is that the best thing to do is actually to wait for what will happening.
I'm not *so* afraid about GIMP 2.8 but more about 3.0, which probably adds major changes in the code (and in the plug-in API). I'm not even sure that plug-ins will be still supported in 3.0, as everything should be done as so-called GEGL nodes (this thing being not documented enough at current time).
And even if the plug-in API or a compatibility layer of it are preserved, this means the code of G'MIC will probably requires a lot of changes to be able to manage 16bits/pixel inputs. So, I guess the G'MIC plug-in will definitely die for the 3.0 release of GIMP (or intermediate 2.9). Maybe it won't be useful anymore in 3.0, if GEGL is growing quickly enough to implement all of the current G'MIC stuffs. Why not ?
But as it is working right now, let us just wait that something breaks

By the way, thanks for your support, it is nice to see you care about the future of G'MIC.

I really believe there would have to be a major change in Gimps structure to have GMIC be obsolete for it.
Besides if it gets to the point that a certain Gimp version will not run GMIC or support it, i will just keep a copy of 2.7 along with it.

Not a big deal to me in my opinion.

The fact is that the GIMP team is planning to convert most of the existing plug-ins as GEGL nodes, making plug-ins obsolete in a "near" future. I don't know yet what 'obsolete' means, maybe a compatibility layer with 'old' plug-ins will remain or not. I've asked it to gimp developers on #gimp, but they were not sure about this fact themselves. So we have to wait.

ok, i agree, Gmic is important and i wouldn't want to be without it. but what exactly are you wanting people to do? sign a petition? complain to the developers? I don't quite follow your intentions. Since Gimp is free if people start demanding things and being a nuisance the developers could easily just say @!$%^!! it and stop working on it if it gets to be a problem. As popular as it is there is no doubt in my mind that someone will make it work.

Back to the very first message, to the screeenshot and the question



You may Relax, gmic does work with 2.7 and would work on 2.8 ,
the screenshot show a warning that has no pratical consequences... The only other disturbance with gmic on Gimp2.7.3(at least on win) is another warning to click out after using Gmic

This for 2.7 but warning will be corrected before gimp 2.8 (that should also provide better backward compatibility then the unstable 2.7) they cannot be corrected before or would be the stable gimp to issue a similar warning..

BUT May be much to worry after gimp 2.8, the plans for gimp 3.0 seems will break compatibility not only with gmic but for all the current plugins
(They all would need to be rewritten as" GEGL nodes" )

But 2.8 is not yet here , and nobody can make a realistic guess about when gimp 3.0 would be released, usually it is a very long process.

So you may postpone the worries for backward compatibility to gimp 3.0, with 2.8 will be fine ( exceptions possible but not for gmic )

Thanks for the clarification. I wasn't considering that GEGL would obsolete the plug-in but it's makes sense that it would. That's still a ways down the road, though. Technology moves ever onward but the filter algorithms you've developed might still come in handy during migration to GEGL.