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 Post subject: Gimp-2.7.2 has changed scripting and plugins API
PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:06 am  (#1) 
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This is on Gentoo Linux.
plse refer to this link.
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=951&start=20

I've given up on installing it in /opt.
So I only have it in my experiments/rescue install.
I copied all the plugins I have in Gimp-2.6.11 in my regular Gentoo install to 2.7.

And then started to test them one by one.
I don't see mathmap even though it is in there and permissions are set correctly.
Some scripts simply don't work others work but protest like this one (spinning globe):
"deprecated procedure:gimp_image_add_layer.Use gimp_image_insert_layer".
So what you find in the files that come with the source:compatible with earlier versions is not true.
Texturize doesn't work at all.
I haven't copied G'mic yet,will do that later.
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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.7.2 has changed scripting and plugins API
PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:42 am  (#2) 
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G'mic copied but it doesn't show up!
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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.7.2 has changed scripting and plugins API
PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:38 am  (#3) 
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gerard82 wrote:
So what you find in the files that come with the source:compatible with earlier versions is not true.

Welcome to the GIMP development process. During development compatibility with earlier versions is indeed not guaranteed -- in fact, it is not uncommon for it to be broken intentionally so that the developers can find out what scripts, plug-ins, or core modules will require updating. It is also not unheard of that some features are disabled or some defaults changed so that testers will be more likely to encounter non-standard, problematic scenarios.

When the time comes to release GIMP 2.8, those deprecated procedures will then be considered "acceptable" and every attempt made to support backwards compatibility with earlier scripts, plug-ins, and data files. But until that time, there are no guarantees.

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.7.2 has changed scripting and plugins API
PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:53 am  (#4) 
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Hi saulgoode,
Thanks for the enlightenment.
I guess little sense in trying 2.7 other than to take a look at Cage Transform.
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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.7.2 has changed scripting and plugins API
PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:01 pm  (#5) 
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gerard82 wrote:
Hi saulgoode,
Thanks for the enlightenment.
I guess little sense in trying 2.7 other than to take a look at Cage Transform.
Gerard.
And testing... and making bug reports.

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.7.2 has changed scripting and plugins API
PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:58 pm  (#6) 
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Yes that is the main reason for betas, report the bugs to the developers.
2.7.1 beta has already been fixed a number of times because of bug reports (single window operation bug), and so on.
Developers rely a lot upon this kind of testing to fix those unforeseen problems.

Did the 2.7.2 version keep the tabbed interface (i am hoping it did).

Also does the Cage Transform Tool work fluidly?

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.7.2 has changed scripting and plugins API
PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:01 pm  (#7) 
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Rod wrote:
Also does the Cage Transform Tool work fluidly?


The one problem I have with the cage transform tool is that it only distorts inside the cage. While this is OK on a uniform background it is nasty on non-uniform background.

For example, if I wanted to deform a smile into a frown, The current tool requires rendering/isolating the mouth to a new layer, cloning out the mouth in the original layer, then deforming the mouth layer with the cage transform. If you just use the tool and deform the shape, the BG (where the cage started) is either filled with the current BG colour or the original image.

Not sure if that will change or not as things progress.

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.7.2 has changed scripting and plugins API
PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:54 pm  (#8) 
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Rob is it possible to use masks with the new Cage Transform Tool?
Say mask out what you do not want to stretch or pull in a transform?

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.7.2 has changed scripting and plugins API
PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:47 pm  (#9) 
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Rod wrote:
Rob is it possible to use masks with the new Cage Transform Tool?
Say mask out what you do not want to stretch or pull in a transform?


It respects selections, so it will only deform within the active selection.

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.7.2 has changed scripting and plugins API
PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:44 pm  (#10) 
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..maybe the selection may be really feathered to avoid the problem you mention ?
Or the cage tool read the selection as simplified to 1 bit (yes/ not )?

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.7.2 has changed scripting and plugins API
PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:35 pm  (#11) 
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That is what i was thinking.Select your area you want to keep the same and just select/invert select/feather - then run the Transform Tool. Then you should be able to transform all but the unselected area.

Theoretically that is.

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.7.2 has changed scripting and plugins API
PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:17 am  (#12) 
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It would be nice if there was a way to use a selection outline as the perimeter of the cage transform, or like the way you can go selection to path. Then you could draw/create a path and use its nodes as the cage handles.

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.7.2 has changed scripting and plugins API
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:34 pm  (#13) 
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Bob63 wrote:
It would be nice if there was a way to use a selection outline as the perimeter of the cage transform, or like the way you can go selection to path. Then you could draw/create a path and use its nodes as the cage handles.


Exactly- It has it's own cage drawing tool, which looks very much like a path ;)

I think the algorithm has limits however, such as no holes.

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