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 Post subject: New darkrefraction build is up! and..
PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 2:01 pm  (#1) 
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.. the saving is improved on the 2.9.1 one.. :clap
I don't dare to say more atm, some of you might now why. ;)
Anyway, heads up on this pertucular update and i'm going to go and cry now out of pure happyness. :cool
http://nightly.darkrefraction.com/gimp/


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 Post subject: Re: New darkrefraction build is up! and..
PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 6:31 pm  (#2) 
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Ludde wrote:
.. the saving is improved on the 2.9.1 one.. :clap
I don't dare to say more atm, some of you might now why. ;)
Anyway, heads up on this pertucular update and i'm going to go and cry now out of pure happyness. :cool
http://nightly.darkrefraction.com/gimp/


I always get my builds of Gimp-2.xxx, from Partha.com. :)
Who exactly builds Gimp on this website?

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 Post subject: Re: New darkrefraction build is up! and..
PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 6:46 pm  (#3) 
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Rod wrote:
I always get my builds of Gimp-2.xxx, from Partha.com. :)
Who exactly builds Gimp on this website?


One guy, nickname drawoc on gimp mailing list.
He's contributing to the gimp development. Builds from the git with the latest bug fixes. Currently only 32-bit Windows binaries.
His site and those builds can be trusted.


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 Post subject: Re: New darkrefraction build is up! and..
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 2:04 am  (#4) 
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Maby Partha think this update is worth compiling, and 64-bit I hope. :P ;)
I did not know myself all this time that these refraction builds was safe more then it did not trigger any virus alerts atleast.
Good to hear what K1T said. :)

You could go almost all Partha anyway if you just take the file-png thingies from the refraction plugin folder into parthas current one, this time? but only 32bit might work, or? :)

Will try it for the heck of it, just need to get through breakfast. :)


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 Post subject: Re: New darkrefraction build is up! and..
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 2:29 am  (#5) 
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And there is a second reason for why i would go with this homemade Partha mod.
Because the previous refraction builds has some other bug that makes the menus dissappear and unhuppy stuff like that.
Don't know if it's still there but there you go. :)
I will try to do a Partha mod and se how long i smile in a row. :)


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 Post subject: Re: New darkrefraction build is up! and..
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 3:06 am  (#6) 
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Nope.. did not work.. there goes that theory.. bye bye. :( :)
Just tryed the file-png only to Parthas 2.9.1 32-bit, and copying ALL file- did produce some messages during start so, that was not popular either. :)
Ohh well..

Time to test out the refraction as is and get to know it, see if it has moodswings or not. :)


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 Post subject: Re: New darkrefraction build is up! and..
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 5:00 am  (#7) 
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Way too easy to make this build mad i'm afraid. :)
I even try to run Windows7 in classic mode, what ever works, but nope.
I'm going back to Parthas 8-bit now so atleast i can get some work done including having motivation still intact. lol


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 Post subject: Re: New darkrefraction build is up! and..
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 8:47 am  (#8) 
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@ Ludde You have to understand that 2.9 version of GIMP is the DEVELOPMENT version and highly unstable.
It is not recommended for PRODUCTION! The main purpose of 2.9 version out there is to receive feeedback from those ppl
who build 2.9 from the source code in git repository, test-run it, id the bugs, fix them and write the patches or in some other
way help developers speed up the process. That's how things with Open Source software work.

When you say that the bug is here and there, well, yeah, there should be. v 2.9 is not even promoted to RC state yet (Release Candidate).
From the development point of view new stable release (that is v 2.10) will be ported to GEGL, new GIMP's engine. So far,
this transition to new engine is about 30% ready. All those builds (Partha's, Nightly builds, etc.) are highly experimental.
Please, use current stable version, which is 2.8.4., unless you want to contribute to the gimp development by identifying and
reporting the bugs they are not yet aware of and/or fixing them.


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 Post subject: Re: New darkrefraction build is up! and..
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 8:58 am  (#9) 
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The short version.
Yes K1T, i know. :)

Sidenote:

If you said the same on Cockos Reaper forum, i would dissagree totally, sort of..
Because with every pre release or beta or what ever they bring, i get exited just as now, but it usually work, if not, takes like a day for them to fix as soon as bug is reported.
Thats what i am used too.
But that is not opensource and Gimp have looots of souls trying to add and remove stuff, communicate and who knows what.
Can't be easy then.

Hope you're not mad at me. :)

I promise not to do this again, ever. ;)


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 Post subject: Re: New darkrefraction build is up! and..
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 9:41 am  (#10) 
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:) No, i'm not mad.
Just a few things you may not be aware of.
There are no gimp developers on this forum except for saulgoode. Even on http://registry.gimp.org/
there is one developer - Michael Schumacher who's mainly responsible for bug reports being organized and relayed to the devs.
GimpChat is a fun place for gimp enthusiasts and more focused on creativity and plugins.
Partha is not part of the team but his contribution to GIMP is priceless by the reasons I described above.
A lot of people here write scripts and plugins, that's true. But i doubt they're gonna be able to answer gimp 2.9
related questions. When i want to contact developers directly i go to the gimp-developers mailing list
or GIMP IRC (irc://irc.gimp.org#gimp). I also report bugs on Bugzilla when I find a new and not reported yet.


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 Post subject: Re: New darkrefraction build is up! and..
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 9:49 am  (#11) 
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Puh, exellent, because i might be a screw-up, but my intentions are perfection. ;)
Thank you for the detailed explenation and for sorting Ludde out ance and for all,you did he right thing. hehe
I understand and i will resume fun-only thoughts from now on as long as i am on Gimp chat, yes ma'am. :)

Again, thank you for you efforts, i appreciate that alot!


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 Post subject: Re: New darkrefraction build is up! and..
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 9:58 am  (#12) 
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Gimp Chat is the right place to ask questions, please, don't get me wrong.
Anything current version related or plugin/scripts related, GC is the best place to ask questions,
and people here is the best gimp community known for its willingness to help newcomers and gimp novices.
But it's not like some other forums out there, rare developer passes by here. :hehe

P.S. :hehe and i'm not ma'am :) TesseraEna not a name it's 41 in Greek. K141 the nikname I go by on Blender forums :)


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 Post subject: Re: New darkrefraction build is up! and..
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 11:30 am  (#13) 
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I have witnessed lots of happy moments and helpfullness since i first found this place, i believe you/me. :)
There are some good forums out there for sure, just that some are affected by minor trolls with tourettes or what ever to call it.
Don't think i ever seen one here actually, now that! is amazing. :)
Must be an age thing (theory) ;)

Latelly, not so long ago, good questions was peeking here and i enjoyed that so much so i actually starting messing with Gimp again!
So that is totally your fault people! ;)

Just wish nice was the norm in the first place so i did not haveto give medals out for that behaviour if you know what i mean. :)

Ohh yes, the developer part & Co i very much get now K1T. :))

Now serious for 5.43 sec: Thank you K1T! I got ya :)

Ps: Oops, nice to meet you anyway. ;)


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 Post subject: Re: New darkrefraction build is up! and..
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 11:51 am  (#14) 
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Not ever in my mind i have come to a word 'trolling' in your regard!
Trust me on this! We don't have trolls here, it's the only forum I know of that can state this.
I understand your excitement to experiment with GIMP, i've been down that road and
was having fun of my life!
You are the member of this family and for me you're as valuable as anybody else on GC.
And please, do ask questions, you'd be surprised how many people here are willing to help
and have quite an impressive knowledge of GIMP and some other free software programs.
My proficiency with gimp has improved significantly since the day I joined GC, although i was
above intermediate level atm.


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 Post subject: Re: New darkrefraction build is up! and..
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 1:50 pm  (#15) 
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I know you don't have 'em K1T, GC rules on that appartment.
If one were to show up here, it would starve to death pretty fast if it stayed and would haveto find another forum. hehe
I hope you are still having your occacional aha!-moments, still having fun?, say yes. ;)
Forgot to mention, i'm a sentimental fart also.. thanks K1T. :*)
But K1T.. if i ask a question, i might like it and ask even more questions, you sure? ;)
Would love to get something in my head and knowing the tools and ways straigh of the bat one day to put that on the screen.
And when i know that, i would like to know other ways that do the same trick but better or faster etc, even with tools that was not design for it, what ever works, love trix. :)

For example.
Like first learning how to make a small round circle without it beeing pixelized, like 40x40 px.
White BG and black round selection fill in that, blur like 10 and then brightness tool to sharpen.
That trick might be basic or what ever, but as a newb, it sure got on my nerves that one. :)
Unsharp mask works on that too and wouldnt supprice me if there was better ways.
I still believe in my eyes, not auto, that said, mathematics is mighty but, it doest know my taste or personality. :)
"Magic" like those things seen the first time really makes ones day/week and tips/help are on GC all the time thanks to You! :)
Will it ever end? new stuff and trix comming all the time or improoved. :)

Ohh: and just recently, someone on GC said that you can drag the FG/BG to fill stuff... all this time, who knew. *doh
Another one week of happyness right there. :)


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 Post subject: Re: New darkrefraction build is up! and..
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 2:26 pm  (#16) 
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New refraction-build is up. 2013-05-12


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 Post subject: Re: New darkrefraction build is up! and..
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 2:34 pm  (#17) 
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A lot of people here are just like you, Ludde.
Eager to learn and having fun. Yes, no matter what, asking questions is the best way to learn the program
and soon enough you'll find yourself answering the questions other gimp users are asking.
It's a long journey but full of fun and creativity moments.
I like your attitude! Nice to have you here!


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 Post subject: Re: New darkrefraction build is up! and..
PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 1:42 am  (#18) 
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GooouuuD Mooooorning GC! (Robin.W-Style)

Thank you K1T!
You are not so bad yourself. ;)
I'm used to learn all ways Exept asking, but i will try it once and se how it goes, yes, m--sir! :)


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 Post subject: Re: New darkrefraction build is up! and..
PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 9:29 am  (#19) 
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New refraction-build is up. 2013-05-15


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 Post subject: Re: New darkrefraction build is up! and..
PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 5:56 am  (#20) 
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New refraction-build is up. 2013-05-16 :cool

http://nightly.darkrefraction.com/gimp/


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