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 Post subject: FIT IMAGE TO WINDOW
PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:15 am  (#1) 
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Hi.
Probably this topic has been discussed (and solved, I don't remember).
My question is:
how to have gimp opening images zoomed really to window
In the Preferences i have: Initial zoom ratio FIT TO WINDOW
but the image is open as shown in "OPEN" screenshot
If I press Shift+Cntrl+J (=FIT IMAGE TO WINDOW) the image is really zoomed to fit the window as shown in "AFTER_SHIFTCNTRLJ" screen shot.
Why the setup in Preferences does not "invite" Gimp to open the image in that size?
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Is there some additional preference to set-up?


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 Post subject: Re: FIT IMAGE TO WINDOW
PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:18 am  (#2) 
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PS: sorry, the "after..." is shown twice but I do not see a double attachment for it....

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 Post subject: Re: FIT IMAGE TO WINDOW
PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:13 am  (#3) 
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no comments?
Is this because:
a) it doesn't happen to anybody else
b) it is as such for Gimp and there is no bypass/solution
just to know

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:57 am  (#4) 
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dinasset wrote:
no comments?
Is this because:
a) it doesn't happen to anybody else
b) it is as such for Gimp and there is no bypass/solution
just to know

I think that (b) is correct.
I for one do not know any way to do what you are asking.

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 Post subject: Re: FIT IMAGE TO WINDOW
PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:45 am  (#5) 
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dinasset: i'm not entirely sure i understand the problem but i think i do. if i do understand it, it's something i've tried to figure out how to change to and i don't think there is a way.

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 Post subject: Re: FIT IMAGE TO WINDOW
PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:42 am  (#6) 
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thanks Wallace
thanks Anmal
I had that suspect too, but I hoped someone did find an escape to have the Gimp behaving at opening an image as it does when clicking Shift+Cntrl+J; what "disturbs" me is that both the preference-parameter and the filter-action use the same terms: "fit image to window..." and Gimp is always...Gimp
I hoped that there were maybe an hidden value which sets a kind of "surrounding margin size" when opening

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:05 am  (#7) 
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dinasset wrote:
thanks Wallace
thanks Anmal
I had that suspect too, but I hoped someone did find an escape to have the Gimp behaving at opening an image as it does when clicking Shift+Cntrl+J; what "disturbs" me is that both the preference-parameter and the filter-action use the same terms: "fit image to window..." and Gimp is always...Gimp
I hoped that there were maybe an hidden value which sets a kind of "surrounding margin size" when opening

I think what AnMal and I are trying to say, is that there may be a way, but we haven't figured out what that is.
I have looked and can't seem to do what you are asking and I also thing that AnMal may have experienced the same issue.

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 Post subject: Re: FIT IMAGE TO WINDOW
PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:57 am  (#8) 
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My wild guess; Gimp has a config file that uses a combination of monitor & image size and outputs to one of Gimp default percentage canvas sizes.
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Percentage list after Shift+Cntrl+J (on my test image 54.4%).
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In my experience an image that has been (Shift+Cntrl+J) added to the list and closed, when reopened in the same session will default to it's original percentage. With the 54.5% test image it was always 33% on a larger images it was 25% (also on the default list).

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 Post subject: Re: FIT IMAGE TO WINDOW
PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:54 am  (#9) 
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Odinbc,
that's interesting.
Do you know whether is it possible to "influence" that calculation?
It is evident (also from your example) that Gimp tries to "preserve" space around, because if after Shift+Cntrl+J the percentage of your image was 54.5, the formula could have selected 50% instead of 33.3% to be "closer"

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 Post subject: Re: FIT IMAGE TO WINDOW
PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:30 pm  (#10) 
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dinasset wrote:
Odinbc,
that's interesting.
Do you know whether is it possible to "influence" that calculation?
It is evident (also from your example) that Gimp tries to "preserve" space around, because if after Shift+Cntrl+J the percentage of your image was 54.5, the formula could have selected 50% instead of 33.3% to be "closer"
I have no idea where it is I suspect it's hard-coded (compiled), so unavailable. The only one, I can think of around here, who may know is saulgoode or you could go to Gimp Developers.

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