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 Post subject: CIE Lab* colour values from scans
PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2025 6:56 pm  (#1) 
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Is there a 'newbie' method that will identify the CIE L*a*b* shade of scans taken with an Epson ET-2810 scanner? TIA for any advice.


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 Post subject: Re: CIE Lab* colour values from scans
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 3:02 am  (#2) 
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The images will be RGB - Gimp is a RGB editor, although the color profile, the something.icc can vary. When you import an image there is usually a choice to keep-existing or convert-to-GimpRGB Probably best to keep.

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You can decompose Colors -> Components -> Decompose and select LAB from the Color Model Drop down menu. (1) see: https://docs.gimp.org/3.0/en/plug-in-decompose.html Greyscale layers which you can edit then Recompose.

If you install the gimp_gmic_qt plugin http://www.gmic.eu then that also has a decompose filter (2) also...
...an interactive curves filter with a LAB option (3)

What are your scans ? Are they negatives ? There will be users more experienced than me for that purpose.


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 Post subject: Re: CIE Lab* colour values from scans
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 5:03 am  (#3) 
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Thanks rich2005,

They are scan in high res of very old postage stamps that have numerous shades. I'm endeavouring to catalogue against the attached research document.


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File comment: It is the shade measurement in this file I am attempting to compare against. I have downloaded Paterson Photography Colour Checker to calibrate against the printers colour output. I'm not overly tech savvy but I'm prepared to work towards a solution to my dilemma.
Vol 095 No 02 Jun 2015 ~ Optical Properties of the Chalon Issues Tables ~ Klaus Moller.pdf [372.62 KiB]
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 Post subject: Re: CIE Lab* colour values from scans
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 6:14 am  (#4) 
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Ouch ;) I can not see anything in Gimp for that. A quick look at ImageMagick - nothing obvious.

Try this scientific application: Two versions ImageJ https://imagej.net/ij/ and an enhanced version fiji https://imagej.net/software/fiji/downloads
In the fiji plugins menu to look for Color Inspector 3D That gives values under the cursor for RGB and LAB

A quick scan into Gimp, export as a png - looks like this using fiji

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Edit: A closer look and if you select the histogram option and then click LUT you get a table of Lab colours

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 Post subject: Re: CIE Lab* colour values from scans
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 7:14 pm  (#5) 
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rich2005 - Thank you. That's helpful and will get me to the next stage I think.


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