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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8.8 released
PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:46 pm  (#21) 
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@Lylejk

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You can try the 32-bit version, it should work.
The problem seems to be glib.

There are a lot of changes to run on Win 64. I have compiled a version but I'm not sure of its operation. I will test later....


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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8.8 released
PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:11 pm  (#22) 
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If you already have a building environment to compile gimp and gmic it should be not too hard compile other gimp plugin

Bigger problem may be found what has to be corrected in the plugin code , why it works with the previous version but not anymore ,... and fix it


I have no idea how to create a makefile PC; not a coder.


Looking forward to testing your user filter update samj. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8.8 released
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:40 am  (#23) 
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After installing the windows version i have noticed python modules will not function.They do load but are not present in the menu listings.

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8.8 released
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:18 am  (#24) 
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GnuTux wrote:
Just got the GIMP 2.8.8 update in Fedora.

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Here are the changes from the official change log.

Overview of Changes from GIMP 2.8.6 to GIMP 2.8.8
=================================================

Core:
- Make sure indexed images always have a colormap
- Fix language selection via preferences on Windows
- Don't crash on setting a large text size

GUI:
- Keep the same image active when switching between MWM and SWM
- Make sure all dockables are properly resizable (particularly shrinkable) (yay!!!)
- Add links to jump directly to Save/Export from the Export/Save file extension warning dialogs

Libgimp:
- Fix GimpPickButton on OSX

Plug-ins:
- Properly document plug-in-autocrop-layer's PDB interface
- Fix importing of indexed BMPs

General:
- Fix lots of places to use GIO to get proper file sizes and times on windows
- Add an AppData file for GIMP
- Backport lcms2 support from master, because lcms1 is not getting bug fixes any longer
- Lots of bug fixes
- Lots of translation updates

Looks great! :yes

Fedora 18 (and above) users can grab the new GIMP version from the updates-testing repository.

yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update gimp

Thank you tux...looking good. :pengy :coolthup Yay! for Fedora :bigthup

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8.8 released
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:37 am  (#25) 
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Rod wrote:
After installing the windows version i have noticed python modules will not function.They do load but are not present in the menu listings.

Hallo that can I confirm under Windows 7 32 Bit. I roll back to 2.8.6 and hope next version would that 2.8.10 or 2.10 perhaps 3.0 ?


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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8.8 released
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:02 am  (#26) 
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Rod wrote:
After installing the windows version i have noticed python modules will not function.They do load but are not present in the menu listings.


As far as I could notice, this is an issue that every now and then tends to recur in the Windows versions of GIMP.
Since it proved to affect GIMP Portable as well, some time ago this problem was reported and discussed in a thread of the PortableApps Forums, where a patch was eventually submitted and then implemented so as to permanently guarantee the python support as regards the portable release.
Try to see if that patch still works even with the official installer package. Here is the link to the thread in question:

http://portableapps.com/node/32125

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8.8 released
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:24 am  (#27) 
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Python appears to be working fine for me in 2.8.8 64 bit Rod. Hope that patch the 32-bit version soon. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8.8 released
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:00 pm  (#28) 
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Hallo than I want 2.8.8.1 Version. I´m user no programmer
Thank you Andrew


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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8.8 released
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:56 pm  (#29) 
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Downloaded and compiled 2.8.8 last night and everything seems to be working fine on Linux Mint 15. Great stuff.

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8.8 released
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:31 pm  (#30) 
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just a thought
out of the two versions I have loaded, same problem, it could not load MATHMAP from portable user,
only from C:\user\ or Portable GIMP\share global
not for Portable, dose anyone know if Appdata will work?


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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8.8 released
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:39 pm  (#31) 
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Anyone here is using Gimp on windows and notice a loading time superior to 10 seconds ?
( more than 40 seconds for me)

To test, go to ..\Program Files\GIMP 2\lib\gimp\2.0\plug-ins\
And remove the plugin named "script-fu.exe"

Now launch Gimp, do you notice too that from more than 40 seconds, the loading time is now at a little more than 5 seconds ?

I was puzzled at why 2.8.x was loading so much slower than the 2.6.x serie (that loaded in 5 seconds for me) and i noticed that when the loading of 2.8.8 reached the "Starting Extensions extensions-script-fu" , the loading seemed to become stuck for a while, in which there was little harddrive activity, as if the process was actually frozen instead of working.

Running with --verbose does not show anything wrong, no error, nothing missing, it's just the process that seems completely stuck for 30 seconds.


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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8.8 released
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:35 pm  (#32) 
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Anyone here is using Gimp on windows and notice a loading time superior to 10 seconds ?
( more than 40 seconds for me)

To test, go to ..\Program Files\GIMP 2\lib\gimp\2.0\plug-ins\
And remove the plugin named "script-fu.exe"

Now launch Gimp, do you notice too that from more than 40 seconds, the loading time is now at a little more than 5 seconds ?

I was puzzled at why 2.8.x was loading so much slower than the 2.6.x serie (that loaded in 5 seconds for me) and i noticed that when the loading of 2.8.8 reached the "Starting Extensions extensions-script-fu" , the loading seemed to become stuck for a while, in which there was little harddrive activity, as if the process was actually frozen instead of working.

Running with --verbose does not show anything wrong, no error, nothing missing, it's just the process that seems completely stuck for 30 seconds.

I may be wrong, but won't removing that script-fu.exe mean none of the .scm filters will work or appear in any of the menus?


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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8.8 released
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:05 pm  (#33) 
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Yes, that's the bad side effect of this, while it does not affect the plugins, if you remove definitively the script-fu.exe from GIMP, the scripts will then not work.

Going a bit deeper into the investigation.
I noticed on this page :
http://superuser.com/questions/238773/w ... my-machine
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Seems to startup at lightning speeds even with script-fu (<3 seconds) in GIMP 2.8 RC1 on Windows Vista.


So i uninstalled my 2.8.8 and went downloading the old 2.8 RC1 to test on the GIMP sourceforge archive

I installed it and indeed despite the script fu is not removed, that's near to 5 seconds of loading time only.

To test i then took the script-fu.exe from that 2.8 RC1, uninstalled RC1, removed leftovers, installed 2.8.8 and replaced the default script-fu.exe by the one i took from the RC1

And result ... still 40 seconds loading time, so it's not the script-fu.exe that is really the guilty part, but very likely something else in the various libraries/dll/gimp executable that is now very noticably much slower at managing script-fu during the loading than it was in 2.8RC1

I wish there would be an easy solution like switching a 2.8RC1 file into 2.8.8 , but from this test it looks like it's a more complex bug.

I would have moved to use 2.8RC1 but sadly it's affected by the nasty image tearing that had been fixed only with 2.8.6 on windows, ... oh well...


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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8.8 released
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:27 pm  (#34) 
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Since I mentioned the issue in this thread, I felt compelled to share samj's compile of the 64-bit Userfilter. It works great and happy I am. GIMP 2.8.8 appears to completely be working fine for me. Thanks to the developers too for continuing to make GIMP better and better. :)

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=6653&p=115830#p115814

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8.8 released
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:59 pm  (#35) 
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Yes it seems that only the gimp.org version is missing the pygimp.env file.
I wonder why that would get lost during compile.

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8.8 released
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:07 pm  (#36) 
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Lyle like you I don't like any plugin to die because of a gimp upgrade. Samj you are a Legend

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8.8 released
PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:51 am  (#37) 
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Gino D wrote:
Rod wrote:
After installing the windows version i have noticed python modules will not function.They do load but are not present in the menu listings.


As far as I could notice, this is an issue that every now and then tends to recur in the Windows versions of GIMP.
Since it proved to affect GIMP Portable as well, some time ago this problem was reported and discussed in a thread of the PortableApps Forums, where a patch was eventually submitted and then implemented so as to permanently guarantee the python support as regards the portable release.
Try to see if that patch still works even with the official installer package. Here is the link to the thread in question:

http://portableapps.com/node/32125


I applied this patch but isn't a solution, gimp doesn't load plug-ins py.
With gimp portableapps same problem, i'm waiting other portable version patched. :(

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8.8 released
PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:45 am  (#38) 
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Brogun wrote:
And result ... still 40 seconds loading time, so it's not the script-fu.exe that is really the guilty part, but very likely something else in the various libraries/dll/gimp executable that is now very noticably much slower at managing script-fu during the loading than it was in 2.8RC1


I realise that you have determined that the script-fu handling is where you are seeing the slow-down but as it looks like the repeated querying of plug-ins at start-up is still present, you might want to try Jernej's diagnostic GIMP build to see it that offers any more information: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=711491 or maybe ask for a diagnostic build of your own.

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8.8 released
PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:01 am  (#39) 
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what about running the paynekj duplicate plug-in to see if there are any dupes, it works great.

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8.8 released
PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:13 pm  (#40) 
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I had experimented with a Windows 2.8.6 64 bit version, but ran into issues and went back to the 2.8.8 version, which worked fine but loaded slowly (as mentioned above). I did a clean (I think) install after renaming the .gimp-2.8 folder, deleting the old GIMP folders from the Program Files, and running a registry cleaner. When running Jernej's diagnostic GIMP mentioned above with no plugins or extensions and the newly-created user folder, I'm seeing ...

return value 7 from opening C:\Program Files\GIMP
2\lib\gimp\2.0\plug-ins\pyconsole.py
executable: C:\Program files\GIMP 2\Python\pythonw.exe

(gimp-console-2.8.exe:3016): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp-console-2.8.exe:
gimp_wire_read(): error
return value 7 from opening C:\Program Files\GIMP
2\lib\gimp\2.0\plug-ins\script-fu.exe
executable: C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\lib\gimp\2.0\plug-ins\script-fu.exe

I'm currently too green to know what that exactly means.

Then, after deleting the default user folder and changing the old one's name back, and installing the Liquid Rescale Plugin and GIMP Extensions, and starting GIMP, I get an dialog box with an "x" saying ...
"The procedure entry point g_get_home_dir_utf8 cold not be located in the dynamic link library libglib-2.0-0.dll."

I haven't the foggiest clue as to what this means. GIMP does continue loading if I click "OK," albeit kinda slowly.

If anyone can help me fix these things, I'll owe them a beer!


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