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 Post subject: Re: Why has this suddenly started to appear?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:56 am  (#41) 
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Ok, A completely new suggestion, When I enable my tablet to work with gimp then the mouse pointer behaves in a similar fashion to your vids, because gimp is looking for an input from the tablet.

So go Edit>Input Devices and just check to see what is showing as enabled or "Screen" in this case.

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 Post subject: Re: Why has this suddenly started to appear?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 5:16 am  (#42) 
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This is like a soap opera, everyone wants to know what the conclusion is. It still is very much a mystery.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 5:44 am  (#43) 
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I have seen this icon in gimp but not enough for it to become an annoyance.

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 Post subject: Re: Why has this suddenly started to appear?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 5:48 am  (#44) 
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:ninja by sallyanne...
K1TesseraEna wrote:
Don't you see the difference between the GIMP interface with no open documents and the gimp with an open but empty document?

Yes and your right.
I just never open a document, deleted it and continued working with nothing there. It's something I've never done before, so I've never seen this icon.
Does that make sense?

So... this icon only appears after a document with all it's layers are deleted, leaving the canvas blank or without any layers?
Why would anyone do this, is what I can't understand.
So it's not a mystery after all, It just seems kind of strange to me.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:13 am  (#45) 
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Looks like this one is solved, strange as it is.
I made a layer and duped it 3 or 4 times, then I deleted them and left behind the checkerboard. As soon as I did that the cursor changed.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:20 am  (#46) 
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Looks like this one is solved, strange as it is.
I made a layer and duped it 3 or 4 times, then I deleted them and left behind the checkerboard. As soon as I did that the cursor changed.
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Strange right? Why would anyone do such a thing anyway?

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 Post subject: Re: Why has this suddenly started to appear?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:22 am  (#47) 
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:oops: :oops: I have done it Wallace :teeth

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 Post subject: Re: Why has this suddenly started to appear?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:25 am  (#48) 
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molly wrote:
:oops: :oops: I have done it Wallace :teeth

Did you intend to do it, or was it a mistake? I can't see any reason why anyone would do this intentionally.

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 Post subject: Re: Why has this suddenly started to appear?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:31 am  (#49) 
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I had something going that I didn't like so I thought I could just delete it and start over, I thought if I got back to a blank checker board I could start from scratch. told you I was a dummy Wallace. Anyway, don't we learn from mistakes. The next time we know how to fix them.

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 Post subject: Re: Why has this suddenly started to appear?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:42 am  (#50) 
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molly wrote:
I had something going that I didn't like so I thought I could just delete it and start over, I thought if I got back to a blank checker board I could start from scratch. told you I was a dummy Wallace. Anyway, don't we learn from mistakes. The next time we know how to fix them.

Okay already, so you're a dummy. Isn't being a dummy the new average now?

Go to the store for milk, buy the milk, pore the milk down the drain, and put the empty container in the refrigerator.

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 Post subject: Re: Why has this suddenly started to appear?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:34 am  (#51) 
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@ Molly

LOL... yaaa this IS a soap opera 'The Dumb and Da' Gimpless' or 'These R The Gimps of Our Lives'... and since i started it I want my royalties :paint

OK folks.... Happy New Year!

@ K1TesseraEna

You mentioned Partha was a member here and creates builds, why don't we just ask him?(I will... what's his username guys?)
Also, where can I get a "Virgin copy of Gimp?" (for Mac) What makes 2.8 such a slut? (eh hem..non virginish)

"I see what you mean Wallace.
The only reason I keep 2.6 is to have a virgin version of a program. I don't change anything there,
install no plugins, scripts, whatsoever. Pure academic interest, when I can compare 2.6 and 2.8.
I may forget about some changes I made to 2.8 but my 2.6 is as untouched as Joan of Arc."


@ sallyanne
"I have seen this icon in gimp but not enough for it to become an annoyance."

I had seen it too every now and then (although I don't honestly recall seeing it years prior to at all... then again i've never really gotten deep into Gimp and have only just here recently decided to start using it as my main graphics tool. So perhaps, it appeared in the past and I never paid it any attentioned as it didn't stop my flow of work i was engaged in...)

Still, it ONLY became this annoying when I suddenly could not move layers around and I started to notice this ALWAYS happened when the small circle icon was present... irritating :hoh )

@ Molly


"Looks like this one is solved, strange as it is.
I made a layer and duped it 3 or 4 times, then I deleted them and left behind the checkerboard. As soon as I did that the cursor changed."


@ Wallace

"Yes and your right.
I just never open a document, deleted it and continued working with nothing there. It's something I've never done before, so I've never seen this icon.
Does that make sense?

So... this icon only appears after a document with all it's layers are deleted, leaving the canvas blank or without any layers?
Why would anyone do this, is what I can't understand.
So it's not a mystery after all, It just seems kind of strange to me."



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molly wrote:
I had something going that I didn't like so I thought I could just delete it and start over, I thought if I got back to a blank checker board I could start from scratch. told you I was a dummy Wallace. Anyway, don't we learn from mistakes. The next time we know how to fix them.

Okay already, so you're a dummy. Isn't being a dummy the new average now?

Go to the store for milk, buy the milk, pore the milk down the drain, and put the empty container in the refrigerator.



Not So Final Analysis

Hmmm.... let me think about this folks.

This all started to come to a head when I started working on the displacement mapping project
while learning and searching for solutions to follow the tutorial (from a Gimp perspective...) that brought me to this wonderful forum in the first place ( http://layersmagazine.com/designing-a-layers-t-shirt-in-photoshop.html) remember?

Below Are The Steps I Took

1. Open my .xcf file (t-shirt file)
2. Insert either another (or .png image) as a layer (t-shirt design)
3. Duplicate the t-shirt design and desaturate it (to be used for the displacement map)


Along the way I wouldn't doubt if duplicate layers were deleted, in fact I know I did several times.

Still, why would this cause the icon to appear? More importantly, why would the issue of not being able to move layers around within the pallette area begin to happen?


At the end of the day, I'd be interested in asking Partha this. Although I have not installed his build yet I will today though. I would suspect that if anyone would have a straight answer it would be a developer, right guys?

I gotta get this empty container outta my refrigerator it's a New Year! :hehe


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 Post subject: Re: Why has this suddenly started to appear?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:41 pm  (#52) 
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otherwhirl wrote:
At the end of the day, I'd be interested in asking Partha this. Although I have not installed his build yet I will today though. I would suspect that if anyone would have a straight answer it would be a developer, right guys?

I gotta get this empty container outta my refrigerator it's a New Year! :hehe


It would be interesting to find out what Partha thinks of all this. I don't think your issue is fully solved as of yet.
Good luck with this, and maybe sooner or later we'll all know what was wrong with this Gimp of your.

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 Post subject: Re: Why has this suddenly started to appear?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:14 pm  (#53) 
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otherwhirl wrote:

@ K1TesseraEna

You mentioned Partha was a member here and creates builds, why don't we just ask him?(I will... what's his username guys?)


Because you're not using his build. If it's a Mac issue I doubt he can help.
Username is the same Partha.



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Also, where can I get a "Virgin copy of Gimp?" (for Mac) What makes 2.8 such a slut? (eh hem..non virginish)



Usually from the official gimp download site.
I call 'Virgin' any vanilla version (2.6, 2.8, 2.9) not changed, not one iota.
Obviously, when you add 3rd party plugins, scripts, change settings in preferences, change interface layout, etc.
gimp isn't the same as 'out of the box' program? Custom builds are also not virgin but for other reasons (often use
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 Post subject: Re: Why has this suddenly started to appear?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:22 pm  (#54) 
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Because Partha does have Mac, he may be able to help but as kit says you aren't using his build, but here is his site. Parthas Place

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 Post subject: Re: Why has this suddenly started to appear?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:54 pm  (#55) 
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Yes, as I mentioned in my previous post i'm gonna install his build, test it and go from there.
Then I'll ask him what he thinks....


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 Post subject: Re: Why has this suddenly started to appear?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:45 pm  (#56) 
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For some reason Partha's build keeps crashing on my computer.... (none of the others crashed...)


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 Post subject: Re: Why has this suddenly started to appear?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:04 am  (#57) 
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Not sure if I can add any insight, but I do use Gimp on a mac, and it's Partha's McGimp 2.8 build. I have had a few run-ins with the slash/circle thing, and it has been because of either an unanchored floating selection, solution is to anchor it. Also it has been from a hidden or forgotten selection, solution was always to go to select>none so I don't have to hunt for it. Once it was because I had an indexed mode, so had to change it to rgb. As Molly mentioned, it happens a lot if your cursor goes outside of the layer selection. That is all I can think of…except that I have heard that Gimp and Maverick do not play well with each other, the main reason I have stayed with Mountain Lion.


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 Post subject: Re: Why has this suddenly started to appear?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:52 pm  (#58) 
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Yo 2-ton,

I really appreciate your response as a fellow mac user.

I can both confirm the floating layer instances as well as the fact that just about EVERY app. (well maybe not all, but enough to get irritated...) has had issue with Mavericks.

So there is NO question about it, those of us who have made the update aren't dreaming when it comes to the issues and buggy occurences.

With the help of everyone on this forum, just in the last 2-3 days i've made leaps in terms of my understanding (and ability to get somethings done that puzzled the heck outta me...) Gimp

So again,

Thanks! :bigthup

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Not sure if I can add any insight, but I do use Gimp on a mac, and it's Partha's McGimp 2.8 build. I have had a few run-ins with the slash/circle thing, and it has been because of either an unanchored floating selection, solution is to anchor it. Also it has been from a hidden or forgotten selection, solution was always to go to select>none so I don't have to hunt for it. Once it was because I had an indexed mode, so had to change it to rgb. As Molly mentioned, it happens a lot if your cursor goes outside of the layer selection. That is all I can think of…except that I have heard that Gimp and Maverick do not play well with each other, the main reason I have stayed with Mountain Lion.


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