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 Post subject: Brush manager
PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:24 am  (#1) 
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I'm betting that someone has used or is using the brush manager: http://myweb.msoe.edu/~bogies/brushmanager/ if so maybe someone can get me going in the right direction. I have the folders set as instructed, the manager shows up in python fu, it starts but there are no brushes in it (yes, I put a few there) neither stored or loaded brushes. I triple checked the paths and have them set to writable. I have thousands (seriously) of brushes and thought this would be handy but I could never get to work because I didn't have python installed but I do now and it seems I'm half way there.

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 Post subject: Re: Brush manager
PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:30 am  (#2) 
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I believe you have to place a folder in the brushes folder and direct a path to it. =)

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 Post subject: Re: Brush manager
PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:32 am  (#3) 
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Rod wrote:
I believe you have to place a folder in the brushes folder and direct a path to it. =)


Not exactly ..but is almost a good guess ! :hehe

GSM wrote:
if so maybe someone can get me going in the right direction.


The only right direction lead here http://registry.gimp.org/node/13473

, again a pyton script that manage brushes, but also the other add on (pattern, gradient...)
include clear and short instrution not only to install (that is very simple ) but also to make it work (even more simple but very hard to guess, so don't skip the read me file)

The brush manager has more or less same complication but manage only brush and is older (not even sure if still work was for gimp 2.4 )

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 Post subject: Re: Brush manager
PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:10 am  (#4) 
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i already have python installed and working, the problem isn't with python.

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 Post subject: Re: Brush manager
PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:34 am  (#5) 
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Gms9810 wrote:
i already have python installed and working, the problem isn't with python.


Who said the contrary ?

i just advice you

1)that the script was for gimp 2.4 so may even not work on 2.6 (were no much changes for python script as far i know
but some gimp function to call may have changed name and so broke the script )

2) that you don't need only to install the script but also to create several new gimp folders as explained in the link you posted

3) that there is a better script that for sure will work in gimp 2.6 (even then you have not only to install the script but to follow the instructions for set up several new brush folders and add the path to the ini file included )

4)in both cases, if you prefer install a old and unmaintained script or the newer script from RobA, would be impossible for me explain how to set up everything to make the scripts work, better then their developers, so i may only point to you the the right links ( that for the brush manager you already know since you posted it...i added that for GURM )

then after you read the how to, if you still get problem i will happy to help (and for gurm you get the chance to get its developer help, because he often visit this forum )...but seems clear that you didn't yet

Sorry if the only alternative to explain how to (go to the linked pages select and copy all the instruction , then go back here to paste that as reply) will be not friendly for me neither for you

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 Post subject: Re: Brush manager
PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:01 pm  (#6) 
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I didn't know it was only for 2.4, maybe that was the problem. I added the required folders right after
I added the script then moved them as per Rod's post. I must have misunderstood you, I thought you were saying I needed to install python again. It isn't a big deal, I'll just remove it.

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 Post subject: Re: Brush manager
PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:08 pm  (#7) 
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No i was just pointing to the folders thing

and to the Gimp Unified Resource Manager (aka GURM) that can do the same and for sure work well in gimp 2.6 .(and as extra could do the same also for pattern, gradient ,palette, if needed )

in case of gurm the paths for the folders should be added with a text editor(even the notepad ) to a included file(the file with a .ini extension )

anyway this is explained better in the readme file

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 Post subject: Re: Brush manager
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:16 pm  (#8) 
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where is the ini file, do we create it ourselves?
its not in the dl, there is a cfg file and a py file and some read me files...thats it. =)

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 Post subject: Re: Brush manager
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:35 pm  (#9) 
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it is in the zip...gurm.ini

then here the complete how to install
in bold what may be NOT obvious
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2. Initial Setup

2.1 "Installation"

* Copy the gurm.py into your plug-ins folder, which is *normaly* located at:

"C:\Documents and Settings\<Your windows user>\<your gimp version>\plug-ins", e.g.

"C:\Documents and Settings\Paula Smith\gimp-2.6\plug-ins"

* Copy the gurm.ini wherever you want to, I would recommend to copy it to the same folder.

2.2 Prepare the python script

Open the gurm.py and edit the path in the third row. It has to be the path to

where you did copy the gurm.ini and the gurm.ini at the end of the path.

You have to use quotations, it needs to look like this:

GURMINI = "C:\Documents and Settings\Paula Smith\gimp-2.6\plug-ins\gurm.ini"

If you are a windows user and dont have any special editors like notepad++, I would

recommend to open the gurm.py with wordpad not with notepad.

2.3 Prepare the gurm.ini

Open the gurm.ini. Again if you dont have any special editors, use wordpad.

What do you have to do in the gurm.ini? For every manager type you have to edit the

"gimpPath" and the "userPath".

2.3.1 The gimpPath

You have to add the path to your GIMP resource folder of the specific manager.

Please be sure to NOT use quotations in this file.

Example: You want to edit the Brush Manager gimpPath. It would look like:

C:\Documents and Settings\<Your windows user>\<your gimp version>\brushes, e.g.:

C:\Documents and Settings\Paula Smith\gimp-2.6\brushes

2.3.2 The userPath

The userpath is the path where you store all of your files for that manager. You

can create this folder wherever you want to, e.g. in your own documents. You have

to create this path in the filesystem on your own. Just open the explorer and

browse to the location you want to store them and create your folder. Afterwards

you have to add that path to the userPath in the gurm.ini.

Example: Lets asume that Paula Smith has decided to create following folder

"D:\GIMP\Brushes" for her brushes. She then adds the path to the gurm.ini, again without

quotations. It would look like this:

D:\GIMP\Brushes

She then does the same with her other resources and adds them as well.

2.4 Prepare the user folders

Now browse again to the user folders you just created. You will need to add more folders.

For every set you plan to use at once you have to create one more folder. Again I will

use an example to explain it.

Lets assume Paula wants to use 4 different brush sets:

One for grundge brushes, one for frame brushes, one for symbols and one for all her

other brushes.

She then browses to her user folder D:\GIMP\Brushes and creates 4 new folders in that

directory: Grundge, Frames, Symbols and Other.

She does the same for her other resources (Gradients, Palettes, Patterns and Script-Fu).

2.5 Prepare GIMP

I assume that at the moment you have a lot of resources allready in your GIMP folders.

You have to clear them before we can start use GURM. Now before you do anything I would

recommend you to backup your GIMP resource folders (brushes, gradients, palettes,

patterns and Script-Fu).

Once you did this start moving your files to the folders you just created.

Another example:

Paula now moves all of her brushes from

C:\Documents and Settings\Paula Smith\gimp-2.6\brushes to her user folders,

the grundge brushes to D:\GIMP\Brushes\Grundge, the frame brushes to

D:\GIMP\Brushes\Frames etc. She does this until all of her GIMP resource folders

are empty.

2.6 useManager

If you dont wanna use one of the managers GURM provides, simply replace the "yes"

with a "no" in the useManager row of the Manager.

Example: You dont wanna use the palette Manager:

Open the gurm.ini file and browse to [Palette Manager], the next line should be

useManager = yes. Simply overwrite yes with no and GURM does not use it

anymore. Of course you dont have to set any paths for the Palette Manager now.

If you want to use it again, just overwrite the no with a yes again. Be sure

not to use quotations.



Now the initial setup is finished. I admit it reads way more complicated than it

actually is :)



3 How to use it

3.1 Use it while you have GIMP opened

You find the plug-in directly in the "Filters" menu. Just click on it

and GURM opens.

GURM is pretty much self-explanatory. Just click

on the set you want to use and click ok. GURM then copies the needed

files for you and refreshes your resource list in GIMP.

If you want to remove a set just click again on the set and then on

ok. GURM again, will remove the no longer needed files and refreshes

your resource list in GIMP.

3.2 Use it without GIMP opened

The script runs as well without GIMP opened. It works exactly the

same way as with GIMP opened except it wont refresh your resource

list, though there aint a need for it ;)



4 What GURM cant do

GURM does not handle zip-archives atm, so if you used Sean Bogies

Brush Manager and did zip all your resources you either need to

unzip them or keep on using Seans tool. I plan to add the zip

feature in the future.

GURM cant handle any user setup errors atm. If you mess up the

gurm.ini GURM will most likely wont work. Please be sure

to check what you do in the gurm.ini. GURM only checks for

valid paths, nothing else. Yes I know this needs to be changed

and is on my to do list.



5 Error Handling

If GURM does not copy anything, but everything else seems to

work fine, check if you have the needed file rights.

You need to have write rights on the gimpPaths.

Windows users should not have to worry about this, but

if you are a linux user you maybe have to do a chmod.

You just need read rights on the userPaths.

Same holds true if GURM does not write anything back

into the gurm.ini. Please check if you have the

proper file rights and if the file is write-protected.

Remove the write-protected status if needed.

If GURM does strange things I bet you messed up

the gurm.ini. Better use a fresh one.

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 Post subject: Re: Brush manager
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:45 pm  (#10) 
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I got gurm working last night, the only weird thing is that it doesn't see individual brushes, gradients, patterns etc. I have to put them in folders and then the folder shows up and I install or remove the folders. I haven't tried it with scripts yet because I have way too many and I need to sort the mess out. I need to find a list of the scripts that come with a clean gimp install so I can compare it to what's actually there. I can remove them all and reinstall gimp, but I'm too lazy for that.

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 Post subject: Re: Brush manager
PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:25 am  (#11) 
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Gms9810 wrote:
I got gurm working last night, the only weird thing is that it doesn't see individual brushes, gradients, patterns etc. I have to put them in folders and then the folder shows up and I install or remove the folders. I haven't tried it with scripts yet because I have way too many and I need to sort the mess out. I need to find a list of the scripts that come with a clean gimp install so I can compare it to what's actually there. I can remove them all and reinstall gimp, but I'm too lazy for that.

You are correct. it is designed to work with folders (or collections) of resources.

For example, I have groups of brushes in folders titled "grunge" "tech" etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Brush manager
PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:31 am  (#12) 
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I hear you Rob, i have so many plug-ins and scripts mixed in with my folders in the actual program.
Learned my lesson, and i now only use the user/gimp 2.0/ folders lol

So much less of a headache.

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 Post subject: Re: Brush manager
PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:56 am  (#13) 
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Rod wrote:
I hear you Rob, i have so many plug-ins and scripts mixed in with my folders in the actual program.
Learned my lesson, and i now only use the user/gimp 2.0/ folders lol

So much less of a headache.


They will also survive a gimp update/install that way, (Updating a version of gimp will create a new user/gimp-2.x/ folder and move all the files across fromt he previous one.)

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 Post subject: Re: Brush manager
PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:52 am  (#14) 
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Gms9810 wrote:
I got gurm working last night, the only weird thing is that it doesn't see individual brushes, gradients, patterns etc. I have to put them in folders and then the folder shows up and I install or remove the folders. I haven't tried it with scripts yet because I have way too many and I need to sort the mess out. I need to find a list of the scripts that come with a clean gimp install so I can compare it to what's actually there. I can remove them all and reinstall gimp, but I'm too lazy for that.


hy i have a back up of default script and brush folder at my DA page...

uff..i forgot the exact link just look on www.deviantart.com for photocomix_resources

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 Post subject: Re: Brush manager
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:17 am  (#15) 
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Well I finally got the right version of Python. V 2.6, which is NOT available as an installable file from the official Python site, is available from ActiveState as ActivePython 2.6 from http://www.activestate.com/. Whereupon all the other stuff as called out in the 100% necessary and very clear tutorial on http://www.gimpusers.com/tutorials/inst ... ndows.html installed too. And when I re-installed GIMP (They don't tell you but you should install all the Python stuff first and THEN GIMP!), LO!...Python-Fu, mirable dictu, appeared! Then I went through all the rigmarole (contrary to popular opinion, it's not "rigAmarole") to install Brush Manager in GIMP 2.6. The Brush Manager wizard comes up just fine. The folders I put all my brushes into show up in Brush Manager. When I click on one particular folder, those brushes get copied into my "active brushes" folder. But then what is supposed to happen? The brush display in the Brushes pallet is the same horrendous mess it was before. All those blots and blivets! Should not Brush Manager be displaying only the brushes I clicked on somwhere, anywhere? Where? Any advice would be appreaciated. And I don't see how installing GURM [sp?] would help because, as nearly as I can tell, it would just use Brush Manager along with other managers.


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 Post subject: Re: Brush manager
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:07 pm  (#16) 
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The whole point of GURM is to either add or extract brushes from the brush directory in your user files.
You do not actually place any brushes in the user/gimp 2.6/brushes folder.Move all of them to the GURM folders you created.Then you can add or subtract them from the brushes dialog at any time.
If you want a smaller set of brushes you have to catagorize them to a dif folder in that GURM brushes folder.
For instance mine is set up like this -
C:\GIMP\all sub folders here one is called brushes, and inside that folder are all my catagorized brush folders clouds/spatter/galaxy, and so on.This way when i add brushes i add only the set i want.

So simply put create more folders in your Brushes folder and place brushes of dif type in those.Then call those with GURM. :)

Hope that helps a little.

Indecently make sure only default brushes are in the program directory share/brushes folder.

Just an added note - do this with your scripts also if you can. ;)
What i did was alphabetize them.I know which letter the script i want starts with so i call it like that out of it's alphabetized folder and that brings only a few scripts in the menus.That works for me until i categorize them by what they do.My first step for that was to find them in the menus (ie add the name to the help popup in the script "something.scm" so then i can see that script in the menu - see its name and now i know exactly what it does and where to catagorize it.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:32 pm  (#17) 
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I am trying to help some one set up brush manager and we have it all done except one thing and it is this line. I can't find where I change that, all I know is it has to be changed from no to yes.
[Brush Manager]
useManager = yes


Can anyone lead us to this line. thanks

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:07 pm  (#18) 
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Not sure about Linux, in Windows it's "gurm.ini" in your plug-in folder.

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 Post subject: Re: Brush manager
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:08 pm  (#19) 
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Thank odin but is is Gimp Brush manager not Gurm.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:31 pm  (#20) 
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molly wrote:
Thank odin but is is Gimp Brush manager not Gurm.

Sorry for any confusion Molly. I was referring to the GURM plug-in.

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