Alphabetical updates for GMIC

molly · **Joined:** Apr 07, 2010 **Posts:** 14182

I have a list of alplhabetical listings for GMIC.
Is there a place where these are stored where we can update them. I have had this list now for a long time and there has been several plug-ins added since this time.

It can be very handy to find things instead of looking all through the drop-downs.

suggestions welcome to keep this list up to date.

alc59 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:25 am **(#2)**

Thanks Molly, there's getting to be so many filters added all the time it's hard to keep up

Ronounours · **Joined:** Jan 03, 2011 **Posts:** 1656

Actually, I'm wondering if maintaining such a list is something that can be done without a lot of headaches.
Due to the G'MIC architecture and openness, the filters are evolving all the time, their names change, their locations too, some new appear, and I imagine that it would be probably quite hard to make an updated list each time there is a change.
Probably, a better way would be to have such a list automatically generated (by G'MIC itself for instance !). I think this is something I can do without too much work. I have to think about it.

K1TesseraEna · **Joined:** Sep 22, 2012 **Posts:** 2089 **Location:** US

GMIC is a great set of filters. I don't use it much but happy to have it in GIMP. The maintainers doing a great job. The only thing i would like to see improved is filters navigation. It hard to navigate them in current state given there are 400+ of them. A tree view or something more user friendly would add up to GMIC's greatness, IMO.

Ronounours · **Joined:** Jan 03, 2011 **Posts:** 1656

It is quite hard to find a good classification for all these filters.
If you have any idea to improve the current one, please let me know.
That would be great to have something simple and logical enough to put all filters in their right location :p

K1TesseraEna · **Joined:** Sep 22, 2012 **Posts:** 2089 **Location:** US

I'll think about it. BTW, is it hard (technically) to change navigation panel? Will it require a lot of re-coding?

Gms9810 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:39 pm **(#7)**

The only problem I have with gmic is that I can never remember where a filter is when I need it and the preview window is so small. Ok, that was two problems.

Ronounours · **Joined:** Jan 03, 2011 **Posts:** 1656

The only thing I can change easily is the number of sections (eventually I can add subsections), their names and the location of the filters in the filters tree.
Doing something different (for instance replacing the filter tree widget by let say, a search engine) is not something I can do in a reasonable time.

Note that the preview window has already been increased (I don't know which version of G'MIC you use though), but the preview widget (provided by GIMP) is really not flexible enough to allow exotic stuffs :mrgreen:

molly · **Joined:** Apr 07, 2010 **Posts:** 14182

Ronounours wrote:

Actually, I'm wondering if maintaining such a list is something that can be done without a lot of headaches.
Due to the G'MIC architecture and openness, the filters are evolving all the time, their names change, their locations too, some new appear, and I imagine that it would be probably quite hard to make an updated list each time there is a change.
Probably, a better way would be to have such a list automatically generated (by G'MIC itself for instance !). I think this is something I can do without too much work. I have to think about it.

That would be great. It would be nice to see it automated and kept up to date.

Alec Burgess · **Joined:** May 09, 2012 **Posts:** 28

Something as close as possible to the Help-Procedure Browser (ie. typo-matic find on any text in the filter names, text included with the filter (and possibly names of fields(?)) which would give the (current) location within the the filter tree would be great. IMO it would have value whether available from the GMIC UI and allow bringing up that filter or as a free-standing filter which simply allows user to navigate to the the "found" once location is known would be a great addition. IE. the same way having found something in Help=Procedure Browser you navigate to it in the menu structure.

bilbo9955 · **Joined:** Jul 11, 2010 **Posts:** 349

I would like to also see new, modified, or moved filters highlighted. It is not easy to determine what was changed after an update. Maybe just a color change of the name for a period of time.

Graechan · **Posted:** Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:28 am **(#12)**

Molly Thanks for putting in the time to update the list as it's always a battle to remember where they are

molly · **Joined:** Apr 07, 2010 **Posts:** 14182

Thanks Grachan but I can't take the credit for making that list. I just put it into a pdf cuz I couldn't get it posted in here in the previous format.
I would like to see it updated but that might not be easy to do.

I can say that I don't use GMIC very much for that reason, It takes too long to find stuff.

Ronounours · **Joined:** Jan 03, 2011 **Posts:** 1656

I've been able to generate the complete list (alphabetically sorted) of the available G'MIC filters, including those defined in external sources :

SHOW SPOILER

Also note that there are 'Faves' in the G'MIC plug-in, allowing to put your favorite filters in a 'Faves' subfolder for quickly finding them without much efforts :bigthup

garagecoder · **Posted:** Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:22 am **(#15)**

Good job, any chance this will eventually be a gmic command? If it was it would make it easier in turn to write a search in future. Looking at the list samj seems to be nothing short of prolific considering how long the filter source has been there!

molly · **Joined:** Apr 07, 2010 **Posts:** 14182

Ronounours wrote:

I've been able to generate the complete list (alphabetically sorted) of the available G'MIC filters, including those defined in external sources :

SHOW SPOILER

Also note that there are 'Faves' in the G'MIC plug-in, allowing to put your favorite filters in a 'Faves' subfolder for quickly finding them without much efforts :bigthup

Wow that is great David. You came through for us once again. KUDOs :coolthup

I made a pdf for those who want to download it for their desktop.

Ronounours · **Joined:** Jan 03, 2011 **Posts:** 1656

@Garagecoder : well, this has been generated with a G'MIC command (see http://pastebin.com/YjxyTyhY for the source code), and I must admit it is quite slow (text parsing isn't really the fastest thing you can do with G'MIC, but as far as it does the job, it's OK for me

).
Well, I've reworked a little bit on it and now, it outputs two lists, the first one sorted by path, the second one sorted alphabetically :

SHOW SPOILER

Making it automatically has some advantages, isn't it ?

Ronounours · **Joined:** Jan 03, 2011 **Posts:** 1656

My impression is also that there are maybe too much filters in the 'Testing/' folder. I was hoping to see very few filters in 'Testing/' actually, since it was intended to be a temporary location for filters to test them.
Working filters should be moved to the main filters tree IMHO.

garagecoder · **Posted:** Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:16 am **(#19)**

Fantastic, amazing how fast you produced that

That will make it easier to write other gmic file parsers as well if need be. I think there are a few reasons filters tend to stay in testing, when I create a filter I usually assume it will not be perfect or at least require future changes and don't want people new to gmic to encounter a buggy filter in the main branch (or be upset if it changes). But maybe we should be braver at categorising since it makes them easier to find and just put a note that it's still in testing.

lylejk · **Joined:** Sep 24, 2010 **Posts:** 12535

Now that' awesome David.

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