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 Post subject: Any idea for a new meaning for the G'MIC acronym ?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:29 am  (#1) 
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Hi there,
On the Flickr forum on G'MIC, Garagecoder has suggested that maybe the meaning of G'MIC (GREYC's Magic Image Converter) was not very good, because it doesn't tell really what the software is able to do.
Mostly, the 'Converter' word should be replaced by something else.

Do you have any idea on a better acronym for G'MIC ?
We have to keep the 'G' as 'GREYC', as this is the name of the lab where G'MIC is developed, and I like the 'Image' and 'Magic' words too (as the mascot Gmicky is clearly a kind of magician, and because G'MIC can be seen as a competitor to ImageMagick and GraphicsMagick as well).
But I'm open to any suggestion anyway :)

Any idea ?


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 Post subject: Re: Any idea for a new meaning for the G'MIC acronym ?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:54 am  (#2) 
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 Post subject: Re: Any idea for a new meaning for the G'MIC acronym ?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:58 am  (#3) 
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sorry, I didn't save the Greyc word: thus Greyc Magic Image Creativity

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 Post subject: Re: Any idea for a new meaning for the G'MIC acronym ?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:25 am  (#4) 
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I mean a new acronym is not required. It is a converter and i like the word G`MIC= gimmick
This is a really a gimmick, a special feature of GIMP. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Any idea for a new meaning for the G'MIC acronym ?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:31 am  (#5) 
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Well, it's a converter right. But it is quite more than that. 'Converter' could simply mean 'conversion between image formats', and not 'image filtering, manipulation, visualization,...' and all the stuffs G'MIC is able to do. That was the point of the idea of changing the acronym.


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 Post subject: Re: Any idea for a new meaning for the G'MIC acronym ?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:32 am  (#6) 
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Ronounours wrote:
Hi there,
On the Flickr forum on G'MIC, Garagecoder has suggested that maybe the meaning of G'MIC (GREYC's Magic Image Converter) was not very good, because it doesn't tell really what the software is able to do.
Mostly, the 'Converter' word should be replaced by something else.

Do you have any idea on a better acronym for G'MIC ?
We have to keep the 'G' as 'GREYC', as this is the name of the lab where G'MIC is developed, and I like the 'Image' and 'Magic' words too (as the mascot Gmicky is clearly a kind of magician, and because G'MIC can be seen as a competitor to ImageMagick and GraphicsMagick as well).
But I'm open to any suggestion anyway :)

Any idea ?


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 Post subject: Re: Any idea for a new meaning for the G'MIC acronym ?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:57 am  (#7) 
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may i suggest a couple of things ?

wanted to say this in the slides request thread, but didnt want to come across as rude

1. to me G'MIC is not about cute fluffy tiger puppies, its a collection of filters coders put in there with mostly no explanation
2. G'MIC has a lot of useful stuff to offer, but its way too esoteric
3. cute tigerpuppies are for kids, G'MIC is not
4. a lot of people have no idea how to pronounce G'MIC
5. G'MIC is not about magic, its about code = math - so how about "Greyc Mathematical Image Converter" ?
6. it really doesnt matter what G'MIC means, but its a good sounding name

so how about fixing the image in a different way ?

require every coder to write a manual for his filter (short or long) or at least a description that everybody can understand

come up with a logo for G'MIC that looks good and somehow explains how its pronounced, so people can speak about it, without breaking their tongues

maybe like this (just a rough sketch of an idea) ?
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 Post subject: Re: Any idea for a new meaning for the G'MIC acronym ?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:28 am  (#8) 
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Greyc Magic Image Compositor (accurate)

Greyc Magic Image Composer (apprehensible)

Greyc Magic Image Constructor (mechanical)

Greyc Magic Image Conjurer (magical)

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 Post subject: Re: Any idea for a new meaning for the G'MIC acronym ?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:42 am  (#9) 
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ofnuts wrote:
Gimp's Marvelously Inventive Complement? Great Module for Image-based Computation?


I like 'Computation'. But G'MIC is not linked to GIMP other than with the plug-in, so I don't like the idea of having 'Gimp' for the 'G'. There are plenty of other interfaces (than the GIMP plug-in) that we are trying to promote actually.

saulgoode wrote:
Greyc Magic Image Compositor


I like 'Compositor' and 'Composer' too !


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 Post subject: Re: Any idea for a new meaning for the G'MIC acronym ?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:01 am  (#10) 
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Esper wrote:
may i suggest a couple of things ?

Please !
Esper wrote:
1. to me G'MIC is not about cute fluffy tiger puppies, its a collection of filters coders put in there with mostly no explanation

I don't totally agree with that assertion. I agree that the G'MIC plug-in comes with a lot of apparently not documented filters. But on the contrary, there is a (huge) reference page with all available commands, with examples and small explanation for each command : http://gmic.sourceforge.net/reference.shtml
Yes, this is a quite "technical" documentation, but considering the project is not so old (mi-2008), and that writing documentation is a pain, it's not so surprising that the G'MIC plug-in for GIMP (which is only one specific interface of the G'MIC framework) doesn't have his own documentation page.

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2. G'MIC has a lot of useful stuff to offer, but its way too esoteric
3. cute tigerpuppies are for kids, G'MIC is not


Right ! And that's because initially, this project was not intended for a large audience as it has now (digital artists). It was aiming to help researchers in the Image Processing field. Thanks to the different interfaces we developed, it has reached a more wide audience. But still, a lot of documentation is missing. Any help would be of course appreciated to fill this hole.

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4. a lot of people have no idea how to pronounce G'MIC


Me neither !
The project is free, so I guess the pronunciation should be free too :hehe

Esper wrote:
5. G'MIC is not about magic, its about code = math - so how about "Greyc Mathematical Image Converter" ?


Maybe 'Mathematical Image' could be misunderstood, as specific images found in mathematics. I like the 'Magic' part of the name, as I like it in 'ImageMagick' or 'GraphicsMagick'.

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6. it really doesnt matter what G'MIC means, but its a good sounding name


Really, you're the first to say that. Most of people find it sounds awful.

Esper wrote:
require every coder to write a manual for his filter (short or long) or at least a description that everybody can understand


In a small project like G'MIC, I cannot *force* the contributors to respect such guidelines. There are not enough contributors that would like to do such a thing. I definitely prefer to have contributors providing new but undocumented filters, that no filters at all.
You have to convince yourself that G'MIC is really a *small* project, and we don't have many people 'technically' involved in the project. Maybe it has a lot of potentials (that's what I think personally), but it must attract more people to be able to exploit this potential.

Esper wrote:
come up with a logo for G'MIC that looks good and somehow explains how its pronounced, so people can speak about it, without breaking their tongues

maybe like this (just a rough sketch of an idea) ?
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Why not. I'm open to any new ideas for a nice looking logo. I like the current one, but I have it only in a small resolution, and a new logo could be a great idea.


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 Post subject: Re: Any idea for a new meaning for the G'MIC acronym ?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:21 am  (#11) 
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Your attachment doesn't show up on my page David.

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 Post subject: Re: Any idea for a new meaning for the G'MIC acronym ?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:32 am  (#12) 
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I think GREYC's Magic Image Converter tells exactly what G'MIC does. It does not create images, it converts an existing image.

I call it by it's letter name: Gee Em I Cee.

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 Post subject: Re: Any idea for a new meaning for the G'MIC acronym ?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:39 am  (#13) 
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I have even heard it called g'mick in some tutorials...an I agree with this, GREYC's Magic Image Converter

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 Post subject: Re: Any idea for a new meaning for the G'MIC acronym ?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:19 pm  (#14) 
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Oregonian wrote:
It does not create images, it converts an existing image.


I do not agree - such as rendering, patterns .....
My suggestion - Greyc Magic Image Creation
or not to change anything - except maybe a shortcut (how Zonder advises ) G-MIC (no G'MIC)


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 Post subject: Re: Any idea for a new meaning for the G'MIC acronym ?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:59 pm  (#15) 
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I like that too,

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 Post subject: Re: Any idea for a new meaning for the G'MIC acronym ?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:16 pm  (#16) 
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Woah totally missed this thread until now!
I think I'm with Esper on this, gmic is a scientific tool and just because there's a gimp plugin based on it doesn't reduce that fact. My main point was that gmic as a language and programming library is hardly used considering it's power and there are a few reasons for it, which we are trying to turn around (a little!). I think it's important to make it more known so that the chances of it being in the next gimp version are improved. It might sound silly for a scientific project but I do think a new look would help, as usual some great ideas from here :)


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 Post subject: Re: Any idea for a new meaning for the G'MIC acronym ?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:26 pm  (#17) 
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 Post subject: Re: Any idea for a new meaning for the G'MIC acronym ?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:28 pm  (#18) 
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"Composer" sounds well for me.
G`micky is cool, the mascot representing the fun at the project. It is the face of GMIC.
Without any funny mascot it would be boring.

...i have a idea for segmentation-maskot too...a sea turtle. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Any idea for a new meaning for the G'MIC acronym ?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:35 pm  (#19) 
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Esper is right: writing - it's math
However, using - it's magic.

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 Post subject: Re: Any idea for a new meaning for the G'MIC acronym ?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:43 pm  (#20) 
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GC, your suggestion " Greyc Magic Image Creation" is great for me, as your proposed logo too; personally I still prefer "Creativity" to "Creation", because you can show creativity also when applying conversions, enhancements, modifications etc. while creation is an extreme (gmic = mainly a creator) as on the opposite site is Oregonian's opinion (gmic = a simple converter)...

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