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 Post subject: Gimp 2.6 in Linux
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:06 pm  (#1) 
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Hi everybody

I have installed Linux Ubuntu today so that I can run EMC2 software. I really like it. It's much faster than my slightly ageing Windows PC with Norton always popping up excuses why my computer is to blame for running so slow all the time.

Anyway I installed the Gimp and it is version 2.6. I can't figure out how to upgrade to 2.8.

Can anybody help me?

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 in Linux
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:18 pm  (#2) 
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I assume you have installed the version 12.04
You must add the next PPA repository:
https://launchpad.net/~otto-kesselgulasch/+archive/gimp

From terminal:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:otto-kesselgulasch/gimp

sudo apt-get update

sudo apt-get upgrade


Also all that you can do from the software center, but I do not know how to do from there :)

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 in Linux
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:52 pm  (#3) 
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I have version 10.04

That's what came with the EMC2.

I found the terminal and typed in those lines and hit enter after each but it didn't make the program upgrade.

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 in Linux
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:23 pm  (#4) 
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Hi PegLeg44.

Generally, older versions of Linux do not support the latest versions of apps, including GIMP. It's might be possible to install GIMP 2.8.x on Ubuntu 10.4 but you will need to rebuild many GIMP 2.8.x dependencies and underlying libs that are outdated in older versions of a given Linux distro, including Ubuntu.

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Currently there is no method to install Gimp 2.8 on any version below 12.04.

In terms of is it possible ...

Unlikely for the following reason:

The dependencies of the latest versions of Gimp require a-lot of the latest underlying libraries that you will not find by default in any version below 12.04. Thus, you will need to recompile and rewrite portions of the code to get it to compile. The further away you get from 12.04, the larger the change required.

A maintainer of the Gimp package (ppa:matthaeus123/mrw-gimp-svn) mentions in the description that it needs the latest Gnome-3 PPA as well as some other testing libraries. Both of these will not install on gnome-2 environments (below 11.10). Looking at the dependency lists for 12.04 version of Gimp, these are also not available in 11.10.

Since you have just installed Ubuntu 10.x, it will be much easier for you to to just dump that and install the latest version of Ubuntu. Trying to rebuild those old dependencies will be opening up a huge can of worms and it's just not worth it.

You really don't want to start out using such an old version of Linux, anyway. Even if your PC is kinda dated, you can always go with a lightweight Desktop Environment, like LXDE or better still, MATE (fork of Gnome2).

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 in Linux
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:53 pm  (#5) 
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As GnuTux said, that version of Ubuntu is old and no longer supported.
I do not know what is that software you use, I search and find stuff about something called LinuxCNC, where there is a LiveCD of Ubuntu 10.04. I do not know why they have discontinued the support for newer distributions. I have seen that there are some guides to compile it on Ubuntu 12.04.
They mention that they are working on a way to install it on any distribution:
http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/engli ... 1304#33640

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 in Linux
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:07 pm  (#6) 
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I'm one of those who doesn't have in depth knowledge of Linux so I'll wait and see what happens for future versions of Linux.

I'll just take some time and learn EMC2 for 10.04 for now. I'll keep doing all my graphics in gimp 2.8 for windows.

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 in Linux
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:30 pm  (#7) 
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I noticed on the home page for your CNC software that it is compiled to run on Ubuntu 10.x LTS and it specifically states NOT to upgrade to 12.x or the app will not work.

Support for 10.04 dropped in May of 2013 so I would assume the developers are preparing a new release which supports the Ubuntu 12.x Long Term Support release.

Looks like you're in holding pattern for now but since the CNC package is still being actively developed, I'll bet you won't have to wait too much longer for a new release.

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 in Linux
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:52 am  (#8) 
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GnuTux wrote:
Looks like you're in holding pattern for now but since the CNC package is still being actively developed, I'll bet you won't have to wait too much longer for a new release.


If the author(s) can't keep abreast of changes upgrade their stuff every year or so it means the code changes involved for every version must be a daunting task. I see they do a lot of changes around the kernel, and while 10.04 uses a V2 kernel, Ubuntu releases starting from 11.10 use a V3 one. The first stable V3 kernel is already 2.5 years old, so if they didn't upgrade yet why should it happen in the next months?

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 in Linux
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:53 am  (#9) 
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PegLeg44 wrote:
I'm one of those who doesn't have in depth knowledge of Linux so I'll wait and see what happens for future versions of Linux.

I'll just take some time and learn EMC2 for 10.04 for now. I'll keep doing all my graphics in gimp 2.8 for windows.

pegi

Instead of switching between 10.04 and WIndows, why not switch between 10.04 and some more recent version of Linux?

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 in Linux
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:02 am  (#10) 
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Those interested should register on the forum for them to join requests from a LiveCD of Ubuntu 12.04 or a simpler method of installation in newer versions.
If there is no many requests about it, they will assume that things are fine as is.

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.6 in Linux
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:46 am  (#11) 
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ofnuts wrote:
The first stable V3 kernel is already 2.5 years old, so if they didn't upgrade yet why should it happen in the next months?

Well, I didn't mention anything about a specific time frame but according to their site, they state they are supporting Ubuntu LTS and 10.x is dead as of a couple of months ago. There are links to their mailing list on their site so I'm sure one could contact them for more specifics, but I highly doubt the devs are continuing development using an outdated kernel and a dead distro release.

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