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 Post subject: MathMap and/or GMIC for GIMP 2.8 on Fedora 19
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:38 am  (#1) 
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MathMap
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cant find libjpeg.so.8



Hey fellow Gimpers,

I/m trying to add some plugins to my Gimp 2.8 install on my new Fedora 19 laptop and I'd really like to have MathMap and GMIC in my plugin arsenal.
I found that neither are included in Fedora's repositories but I've been busy trying to build the sources and trying to meet its dependencies.
I've got both plugins + the Gimp Plugin Registry ready and running on my Ubuntu Desktop but for my laptop I decided to go with Fedora 19 (Gnome Shell). I use it for web and Android design and I've got my complete bag of tricks working on it but when I got to customizing Gimp I quickly learned that this one doesnt work the Ubuntu ppa:somerepo way, atleast not for my favourive graphic tool !
Does anyone have some tips on how to get either MathMap or GMIC going on Fedora 19 ?

So far I've built the source of MathMap and have met all the dependencies exept for libjpeg.so.8, I've got libjpeg.so.62 and libopenjpeg.so. I've got the sources for libjpeg8 but after building I ended up with libjpeg.so.9 !?
When I create a symlink from libjpeg.so.9 I get: cannot find LIBJPEG_8; is required my mathmap.
I've even tried to change the variables with hexedit but still the same sh*t.
When symlinking with libopenjpeg.so I get MathMap in Gimp, right where its supposed to be but none of the plugins work and the MathMap crashes.
I'm gonna look for the proper version of libjpeg.so.8 but it seems its quite hard to find on Fedora.

I've not been pushing as far with GMIC yet but I can expect the same I guess, it's really frustrating and I dont want to change my entire OS because of this again. I never thought Fedora would lack so much packages compared to Ubuntu.

Last resort could be running a Windows version under Wine but if that works I doubt it...

Did anyone already try to run these plugins on Fedora 19 and if so did it work and how did you do it?
If I/we can get it working it would certainly be good news for some fellow Fedora users, the distro isnt that bad I think, I kinda like its simplistic interface (very difficult to customize though) and how I put it together now its really nice for coding and creating graphics in the same session.

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 Post subject: Re: MathMap and/or GMIC for GIMP 2.8 on Fedora 19
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:03 am  (#2) 
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I'm running mathmap in F19 with no problems. I didn't have to build anything. I just had to go back to previous builds and install the proper deps. See this thread.

G'MIC is no problem, either. Just copy the G'MIC plug-in to your GIMP plug-ins folder and ensure libpng12 (obsoletes libpng-compat) is installed from the F19 repos.

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 Post subject: Re: MathMap and/or GMIC for GIMP 2.8 on Fedora 19
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:10 am  (#3) 
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Okay I'll get on it. Maybe the problem is that I try to install it directly in F19, the .rpms are not targeted for F19 so they dont install out of the box.
I hope it works, thanks for your quick reply !

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 Post subject: Re: MathMap and/or GMIC for GIMP 2.8 on Fedora 19
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:22 am  (#4) 
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Glad I could help. I can confirm they both work just fine on a stock F19 64bit system. If you've changed things around and rebuilt dependent libs, your mileage may vary. :smiley2

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 Post subject: Re: MathMap and/or GMIC for GIMP 2.8 on Fedora 19
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:46 am  (#5) 
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Hi again,

It seems that libpng was the culprit, I tried to install it before but the software installer didnt do it, did it CLI and it worked, no errors so I dont know why. Maybe cuz theres a newer one installed already.
Now GMIC works completely, but MathMap still complains, the only error I get when running Gimp from the terminal is this:
Gtk-ERROR **: GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same process is not supported

Got any idea where this comes from ??

PS: deleted the MathMap I built to make sure its nothing I fiddled around and installed mathmap-1.3.5-2.fc15.i686.rpm from the thread you mentioned earlier.

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 Post subject: Re: MathMap and/or GMIC for GIMP 2.8 on Fedora 19
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:23 pm  (#6) 
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I can confirm that I don't get that message when running GIMP from the terminal.

I assume you've installed libnoise from koji (see link in other thread), as well as libpng12 from the Fedora 19 repositories?

I believe the message you're seeing occurs when you build a package against GTK2 in a GTK3 environment. Perhaps that problem was introduced when you manually built and installed mathmap.

Is this the same error you received when you manually compiled and installed mathmap?

If so, I suppose you might still have some bits left over from the failed build and I'm not sure what to suggest that will allow you back out of that. Maybe someone else here might know.

If you completely remove mathmap and run GIMP from the terminal, do you still get the error?

Perhaps a clean test install of F19, and installing the packages as I outlined, will tell you for sure if something you've done previously is responsible for the error. Other than that, I don't know what else to recommend.

Just mapped this flower to a sphere using mathmap in F19.

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On a side note, I'm using Fedora 19 /w MATE desktop.

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 Post subject: Re: MathMap and/or GMIC for GIMP 2.8 on Fedora 19
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:45 pm  (#7) 
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I removed all I built and installed a fresh version.

The desktop has both gtk-2.0 and 3.0 window themes, I noticed already when I was busy customizing the css files. there's a folder for both version and themes installed either by package manager or manual are gtk-2.0 or 3.0 too.
Maybe Gimp is started in 3.0 and mathmap is 2.0?
I use Gnome Shell, not MATE. so I guess theres not an easy way around this unless there's an option that enables in wich gtk to start both programs.
I'd like to use MathMap from CLI. I dont know if there' s errors there yet. I would be a great help to see if the program is fully functional CLI that rules out other errors at least.

Damn you GTK I was almost there !!!

Got GMIC though, that nice at least

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 Post subject: Re: MathMap and/or GMIC for GIMP 2.8 on Fedora 19
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:51 pm  (#8) 
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I have mathmap installed on F18 under Gnome3, as well. I used the exact same procedures and didn't have any problems. It also worked fine on F17 & Gnome3. I suspect the fact that you are using Gnome3 is not really the problem.

A clean install of F19 on a test drive/partition/VM would confirm one way or the other..

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 Post subject: Re: MathMap and/or GMIC for GIMP 2.8 on Fedora 19
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:13 pm  (#9) 
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Okay calling LD_DEBUG files /usr/bin/mathmap tells me my mathmap is calling libgtk-2.0 and /usr/bin/gimp is calling gtk-2.0 and even gives me some errors that seem to revolve around libgtk aswell.

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 Post subject: Re: MathMap and/or GMIC for GIMP 2.8 on Fedora 19
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:50 pm  (#10) 
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I have both GTK2 and GTK3 installed on my system.

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I suspect the problem is an app needs to use one or the other and you'll get that error if the package is compiled against a mix of gtk2 & gtk3 libs.

http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.g ... nounce/105

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