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 Post subject: G'MIC survey is done. Consider participating :)
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 1:02 pm  (#1) 
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Hi there,

The upcoming version 1.6.1.0 of G'MIC is almost done.
So, I'd love to know a little more about our users, to see what directions I should take in the future. The survey I've designed is now done and working so you can tell a bit about your use of G'MIC and your wishes. If you have one minute of your time to help us, then please consider participating to this survey !
From now, all records will be kept for further analysis.
The survey is available after a filter update (located at About / User satisfaction survey). Some issues may happen on Windows, if you run some "old" versions of 1.6.1.0 (beta). The binaries I've released today on the website are known to work by the way :).
Of course, I'd like to thank you again for all the tests and bug reports you've made these last days !

Thanks a lot in advance for your participation !

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 Post subject: Re: G'MIC survey is done. Consider participating :)
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:59 pm  (#2) 
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Just did David; no issues this time. :)

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 Post subject: Re: G'MIC survey is done. Consider participating :)
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:02 am  (#3) 
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Mine still said sending problem after clicking on send. Went back to G'MIC and it was still there so clicked on ok. Would that have sent it?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:27 am  (#4) 
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Hello sallyanne,
thanks for reporting. What version of G'MIC do you use ? Is this a 1.6.1.0 beta ? In that case, of which day (this appears in the plug-in dialog title) ?
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 Post subject: Re: G'MIC survey is done. Consider participating :)
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:40 am  (#5) 
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Hello there,

This morning, I've quickly coded a small script which retrieves the answers of the survey, and make a small rendering to show the results.
Here are the results, so far :) There have been only a few votes, so this is not so representative, but interesting anyway!

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My rendering script is run every ten minutes, so this picture should be updated regularly.


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 Post subject: Re: G'MIC survey is done. Consider participating :)
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:25 pm  (#6) 
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Well, for whatever reason (I think it was reports of decreased Bilateral performance) I stayed at 1.6.0.4 and I don't see the survey after refreshing my filters. :cry

Can I answer here?
1. Who am I? 7. Someone else.
2. How did I hear about G'MIC? 2. From a search engine.
3. How often am I using G'MIC? 2. Almost everyday.
4. My preferred G'MIC interface: 2. The plug-in for GIMP.
5. I follow news about the G'MIC project on: *The GimpChat forum *The Flickr user group
6. How do I rate the frequency of G'MIC releases? 2. Just fine.
7. How do I judge the number of available filters? 1. and 4. Too many filters, not enough useful filters. I spend 95% of my G'MIC time using the "Custom code" GIMP filter to do what I want. :P *I use the "Faves" feature of the plugin extensively!
8. How do I judge the amount and quality of available documentation? Other: Good quality documentation but still some parts of G'MIC haven't been documented yet (or at least not to equal quality).


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 Post subject: Re: G'MIC survey is done. Consider participating :)
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:53 pm  (#7) 
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I saw this post and decided to get the newest G'Mic. I was going to try it out and weigh in on the survey because I love G'Mic, but am unable to get the new G'Mic to run on Windows 7 -64 bit. I get the error "libgcc_s_seh=1.dll is missing". Any help would be appreciated.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:17 pm  (#8) 
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@PhotoMaster:
This is the DLL supplied with Gimp 2.8.14:
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Just unzip and copy into whichever plugins directory your gmic-gimp.exe resides in.

BTW which version of Gimp are you running?


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 Post subject: Re: G'MIC survey is done. Consider participating :)
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:39 am  (#9) 
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Thanks for your answers !

@PhotoMaster : let me know is you succeed with the dll issue. I wonder if I should provide the dll file with the installer, any thoughts on this ?

@Clouds : Thanks, I've submitted your answers. I'm very surprised and interested at the same time by one of your answer. You said you are using the 'Custom command' filter a lot, because there are not enough useful filters. Can you develop a bit on that. I thought this 'Custom command' filter was a bit useless, because for those wanting to do their own G'MIC scripts, I find the cli tool more intuitive. Also, I'd be interested to know what kind of filter is missing you are thinking of, maybe it is just something we can add easily in the regular filters.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 3:17 am  (#10) 
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Ronounours wrote:
I thought this 'Custom command' filter was a bit useless, because for those wanting to do their own G'MIC scripts, I find the cli tool more intuitive.

Well, it's all the power of scripting, plus all the power of visual editing tools like selections, masks, paintbrushes, layers... GIMP is a much better environment for working on images than a terminal prompt! G'MIC is just part of the overall tool set.

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Also, I'd be interested to know what kind of filter is missing you are thinking of, maybe it is just something we can add easily in the regular filters.

Well, it just seems to me like G'MIC is based on such a powerful underlying graphics processing library, yet is overflowing with kind of cutesy or flamboyant filters. I acknowledge this is 99% subjective based on what kinds of things _I_ look for G'MIC to do...

Like I'm often going into the Repair and Contours and Artistic sections, but Rendering, Frames, and Sequences are just nothing I'd ever use. Artistic has gems like Fractalize and Polygonize and Cubism, and (IMO) useless filters like Black crayon graffiti and Color abstraction paint and Graphic novel.

Then, a lot of the Color section, I'd rather do just with GIMP's tools (like a curves interface that is a curve, not a set of sliders), or otherwise it's simply faster to type "-rgb2hsl8 -s c" into the custom command filter than to click though to wherever the similar option is in the filter tree.

I even feel like a lot of the filters in Details are almost duplicates of each other, and none of them really quite do things the way I like to.

It doesn't seem to do the computing abilities of G'MIC justice that most of its filters are wild FX, with a relative scarcity of useful and unique technical/pipeline type filters (and not GIMP duplicated functionality). You know, the kinds of filters that are useful on almost every image rather than just for a specific aesthetic. The noise reduction, and the interactive line-art coloring, are perhaps the two most excellent examples of practical filters semi-unique to G'MIC.

Plus I've come to love the bilateral and the tolerance-median filters, and the linear blur filters that are so many times faster than GIMP's. Dilate- and erode-oct... The -warp command... Well, now maybe you see why I like the custom command filter better than most of G'MIC's presets. I'm usually either using the very simple operations or experimenting with something totally new I've imagined.


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 Post subject: Re: G'MIC survey is done. Consider participating :)
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 3:22 am  (#11) 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 3:29 am  (#12) 
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Ronounours wrote:
Hello sallyanne,
thanks for reporting. What version of G'MIC do you use ? Is this a ? In that case, of which day (this appears in the plug-in dialog title) ?
Thanks.

It is 1.6.1.0 beta, If I understand your question correctly I check and get back to you.
EDIT: February 19th 2015

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 3:37 am  (#13) 
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Ok thanks Sallyanne. I'm not surprised then, because you are using a quite "old" beta :)
There was a bug with sending network data, and it has been fixed less than one week ago.
If you get the latest beta (available from http://gmic.eu/gimp.shtml), it should work.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 3:44 am  (#14) 
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Thanks for the explanations Clouds, that is exactly what I'm interested in :)
About the color curves, you are right, having sliders is not intuitive, that's why I've recently added a 'Curves [interactive]' filter with curve-editor widgets.
Have you already tried it ? What you are saying is quite interesting, because I know people that are *only* interested by the G'MIC filters in 'Frames/' and 'Artistic/'
(e.g. my wife :) ). It somewhat tells us that G'MIC is indeed quite generic enough to cover a wide range of use for image processing algorithms.
That's the positive point. The negative side of this is : it is hard to please everyone because of the variety of uses involved.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:56 am  (#15) 
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Ronounours wrote:
What you are saying is quite interesting, because I know people that are *only* interested by the G'MIC filters in 'Frames/' and 'Artistic/'
(e.g. my wife :) ). It somewhat tells us that G'MIC is indeed quite generic enough to cover a wide range of use for image processing algorithms.
That's the positive point. The negative side of this is : it is hard to please everyone because of the variety of uses involved.


I'm of a similar opinion to Clouds in that I'm one of the few who thinks there are too many filters. I think it comes down to your method of distribution - you force everyone to have all the filters. Now if I could pull into GIMP-G'MIC only the filters I wanted, and not have the rest of them cluttering up the UI, I'd enjoy using it more.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:58 am  (#16) 
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@paynekj : in your case, isn't it enough to have the 'Faves' section with your favorite filters, and the rest of the filter tree folded ?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:17 am  (#17) 
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Thank you David. Done and sent.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:30 am  (#18) 
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I just like to play around with all the different filters.
The ones I really like make it to my Favs.

Interested in the survey results - never used the Google+ page for info.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:23 pm  (#19) 
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I'm running Gimp 2.8.4 and I installed the new dll. Now it wants another new dll. I think I need to get a newer version of Gimp.

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I just installed Gimp 2.8.14 but got this error. Hmmm? Just doesn't like me maybe??


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