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 Post subject: Tablet pen switch/buttons?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:00 am  (#1) 
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Ssssssoooo. Hello again. :D

Okay, I'm beginning to regain a nice workflow, have a lot of things set up the way I want them. I can't really get the lasso tool to be as quick to use for speedy masks and such, it's a little stickier with the circles having to connect unless I press ENTER to seal them up.

Anyhoo! One big chasm of a hole in my soon-to-be-blazing-fast GIMP usage is that I can't seem to be able to use my own Wacom tablet mappings with it.

I can map a thing to the switch/buttons in the Wacom Tablet Properties, but GIMP insists I either pan or open a mini version of the menu bar on those same buttons. They are both triggered, but it's useless if GIMP won't leave the buttons alone.

SO. Is there a way to either a) map the buttons in GIMP, or b) disable the buttons in GIMP and let the tablet properties level mappings do their thing?


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 Post subject: Re: Tablet pen switch/buttons?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:19 am  (#2) 
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For the mappings of the tablet buttons:
I chose a combination in gimp menu "Edit - Keyboard shortcuts" and then map these shortcuts to the properties of my tablet (no Wacom). In my tablet-properties, I can save profiles, so I made a profile for gimp.
And with my tablet, it's not a problem to close a lasso selection :-) But in most cases, I make a rough selection with the lasso tool and then enhance it with the quick mask.


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 Post subject: Re: Tablet pen switch/buttons?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:15 am  (#3) 
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Onkel Hatti wrote:
For the mappings of the tablet buttons:
I chose a combination in gimp menu "Edit - Keyboard shortcuts" and then map these shortcuts to the properties of my tablet (no Wacom). In my tablet-properties, I can save profiles, so I made a profile for gimp.


Thanks for replying. :)

This is what I'm trying to do, too, but it seems like the buttons on my tablet pen are hard coded to do those two specific things in GIMP. Pan, and open the menu bar pop-up. I can't seem to find anywhere to turn that off, so even if I map keystrokes to the buttons, and map functions to those keystrokes in GIMP, clicking the button does that thing AND the hard coded thing simultaneously.

I would like to prevent the hard coded thing from happening, but I can't find any settings to that effect in GIMP.

Onkel Hatti wrote:
And with my tablet, it's not a problem to close a lasso selection :-) But in most cases, I make a rough selection with the lasso tool and then enhance it with the quick mask.


Closing a lasso selection is easy enough to do, in terms of functionality. I'm used to being more gung ho with drawing my selection.

For example, I've coloured a character and I want a quick highlight on his nose. In photoshop I just used to do a "U" shape, because I only need the bottom part to be a specific shape. When I let go, it would immediately close the gap at the top. In GIMP, you can achieve the same result by pressing ENTER after drawing a shape, but then I need to reach for that key every time.

When I'm doing specific highlights like that it's not AS detrimental to my workflow as when I'm painting, however. When I'm painting I'm used to creating a bunch of shapes, really fast with the selection/lasso tool. I usually begin with a blob and then build on that, which means that the "base" of the subsequent shapes I draw with the lasso tool rarely need to be detailed. Again I used to leave the base to the app to close immediately when I let up from drawing the shape.

For me, the lasso tool in GIMP is unnecessarily fussy and "sticky", although very intuitive and useful for slower, more meticulous work. I was actually going to map ENTER to my pen button in order to immediately close the gaps that appear, but the pen buttons stubbornly want to be pan or menu pop-up no matter what I do.


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 Post subject: Re: Tablet pen switch/buttons?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:54 pm  (#4) 
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I've also had the problem with the button settings but have a partial solution.
The tablet is actually sending the correct custom keystrokes but Gimp is overriding these. You can see that the buttons sent are correct by using the tablet with another program, eg set the buttons to send regular letters (eg "a" and "b") then try it on notepad an you'll see that it inserts "a" and "b" when you click the buttons, but in Gimp it will still pop up the menu and pan when you use the buttons.

BUT...if you move the pen off the canvas (eg. into the toolbar window) and then press the buttons on the pen you will see that they will do what you set them to do.

Hope this helps.


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 Post subject: Re: Tablet pen switch/buttons?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:27 pm  (#5) 
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GoGimp wrote:
I've also had the problem with the button settings but have a partial solution.
The tablet is actually sending the correct custom keystrokes but Gimp is overriding these. You can see that the buttons sent are correct by using the tablet with another program, eg set the buttons to send regular letters (eg "a" and "b") then try it on notepad an you'll see that it inserts "a" and "b" when you click the buttons, but in Gimp it will still pop up the menu and pan when you use the buttons.

BUT...if you move the pen off the canvas (eg. into the toolbar window) and then press the buttons on the pen you will see that they will do what you set them to do.

Hope this helps.


Thanks! I didn't know that.

I got halfway there myself. I mapped tasks to the pen buttons that aren't interrupted by the hard coded functions in Gimp. For instance, I mapped "enter" to the button that grabs the canvas and lets you move the perspective around. By merely clicking that once, the hard coded function doesn't really mess things up any, it just turns into the little hand symbol for moment. Pressing it immediately closes an open selection, which has made me almost as fast with gimp as photoshop when it comes to quickly creating big shapes of colour, setting up several selections for highlights and shadows, et cetera.

Of course, I've noticed since then that double tapping will also close the selection. This is a little more reliable, though.


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 Post subject: Re: Tablet pen switch/buttons?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 2:48 am  (#6) 
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Did anyone find a solution to this? It totally cripples my ability to use gimp, I always accidentally hit the extremely oversensitive button on my stylus which then flings whatever layer I'm working on off the side of the screen or opens dialog boxes. It completely ruins my flow as I'm having to constantly fight against rogue dialog boxes and my painting disappearing in different directions.

I can disable it in the wacom settings which solves the problem in all other software except gimp, which seems to re-enable it and set it to "annoying mode".

The only solutions I can find so far are to physically de-solder the offending buttons, something I'm not willing to do on a brand new tablet. Or simply delete gimp and use some other software that doesnt make me want to launch my computer out of a window.


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 Post subject: Re: Tablet pen switch/buttons?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:35 pm  (#7) 
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*Bump* *Bump* and *Bump*

I'm running into this issue massively. It never caused me much of an issue before but I just grabbed an old Wacom Bamboo and it's driving me nuts. Menu AND Paning is occurring with the same pen button that should only toggle Color selection even the custom drop down menu is getting gummed up. I've had very little issues otherwise but this is the only thread I've found with the same issue and I was hoping someone had a fix, its GIMP 2.8.16 or some such I believe and I would think that in 3 years a fix was made... anyone able to share?


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 Post subject: Re: Tablet pen switch/buttons?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:00 pm  (#8) 
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Are the latest drivers installed on your Wacom?

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 Post subject: Re: Tablet pen switch/buttons?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:04 pm  (#9) 
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I've been using the same wacom tablet for a few years now and have never had any issues with it.
Just a shot in the dark, but perhaps uninstalling and reinstalling the present driver,
or maybe installing an older wacom driver might help.
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BTW... I'm using Gimp version 2.8.16 on 64 bit Win10.
I've also used the same wacom tablet with Gimp versions 2.6 to present,
with Windows XP 32bit, 7 and 8.1 without any issues.

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 Post subject: Re: Tablet pen switch/buttons?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:17 pm  (#10) 
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Wacom is phasing out bamboo tablets

there ARE no new drivers, these are the newest possible

as an aside, the support for tablets in gimp, while feature-complete, is a bit of a pain to use, especially if you need to switch between mouse and tablet a lot, it does this absolutely atrocious thing where it has separate settings for mouse and tablet, and switches automatically between the two when you switch tools. this SOUNDS useful at first, but it's stupid in practice because it means you have to re-enter your settings if you wanted to draw a line with the mouse. you can't access the tablet-unique settings, so they're just hidden unless you switch to the tablet.

furthermore, there are no explicit settings for tablet pen buttons, which causes this thread's situation where gimp thinks it's doing something helpful by having pre-set features for the buttons, but it just ends up being a massive hassle.

Even worse, is sometimes it doesn't even transition properly to the mouse when you use it, mine frequently freezes mouse input when i switch back until I alt-tab out of the program and back in.

I love the customizable dynamics settings, but for most other things gimp handles tablets absolutely horrendously


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