Wallace; I need help to know in advance

Issabella · **Posted:** Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:09 pm **(#1)**

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Wallace, I have in mind to change my CPU soon, so I asked an estimation of these components. (see the attachment)
I know that you know much about this matter and I know nothing, so please could you give me your opinion and if something isn't correct?
Really all of you can say your opinion if you like, too.

Thank you so much in advance.

Issa

Mainah_Ayuh · **Joined:** Oct 12, 2016 **Posts:** 377

Issabella,

I have listed all the individual components of the computer
that you are contemplating purchasing.

I have also listed the approximate cost in US dollars of the components.

MICRO ATX CAVIAR SERIES 6K BLACK BOX MINI TOWER-$50.00

Corsair CX Series 750 Watt 80 power SUPPLY $70.00

ASUS PRIME H310M-E with Intel H310 microATX Motherboard - LGA1151 Socket $76.00

Intel Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor - 12 MB - LGA1151 Socket - Retail $310

CORSAIR Vengeance LPX - DIMM 288-pin 16GB MEMORY-$120

2-SanDisk SSD PLUS 480GB Solid State Drive - SDSSDA-480G-G26
1-$73 2-$146.00

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 0 Ti D5 4G Graphics Card $160.00

TOTAL-$932.00 component costs (US DOLLARS) = 817 EUROS

Please note that the prices listed are for individual components
and do not include any cost(s) that a company would charge
an individual to assemble the components into a running computer system.

Based upon my 35 + years experience of both actively working as an engineer
in the computer industry and recommending computers it is my humble opinion that
a computer system that had the components listed above would be more than
adequate for gaming, rendering, streaming, editing and whatever else.

Issabella · **Posted:** Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:26 am **(#3)**

Thanks a lot, Mainah_Ayuh. Your opinion is important for me as you are so expert and I needed to know that information before to order it. :tyspin

ofnuts · **Joined:** Oct 25, 2010 **Posts:** 4812

IMHO:

- you don't need two SSDs. You can replace the second SSD with a large (2TB or more) hard disk.
- the 750W power supply seems to be a bit over the top. The CPU is rated for 66W and the video card for 300W and these are the two major power sinks. The only advantage of a more powerful PSU is that if is less likely to switch on a noisy fan. But a 500W PSU is more than enough.
- unless you are a gamer you won't get much from the Graphics Card. The CPU you have has an integrated graphics processor.
- is the RAM in one card or two? With two cards you can sometimes benefit from increased memory bandwidth. If I were to increase something in this setup, it would be the RAM: 16GB is good, 32MB is better

- I've read that the stock fan/ventirad that comes with the CPU isn't very good. There are very efficient (and silent) OEM ones, and this isn't a very expensive part.
- an itemized list would be a bit more useful...

Issabella · **Posted:** Fri Nov 23, 2018 3:30 am **(#5)**

Ofnuts, thank you so much for your interesting information. I'll have it in mind. Thanks.

Wallace · **Posted:** Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:17 am **(#6)**

ofnuts wrote:

IMHO:

- you don't need two SSDs. You can replace the second SSD with a large (2TB or more) hard disk.
- the 750W power supply seems to be a bit over the top. The CPU is rated for 66W and the video card for 300W and these are the two major power sinks. The only advantage of a more powerful PSU is that if is less likely to switch on a noisy fan. But a 500W PSU is more than enough.
- unless you are a gamer you won't get much from the Graphics Card. The CPU you have has an integrated graphics processor.
- is the RAM in one card or two? With two cards you can sometimes benefit from increased memory bandwidth. If I were to increase something in this setup, it would be the RAM: 16GB is good, 32MB is better

- I've read that the stock fan/ventirad that comes with the CPU isn't very good. There are very efficient (and silent) OEM ones, and this isn't a very expensive part.
- an itemized list would be a bit more useful...

I would agree with ofnuts assessment.
However,
I would use Samsung SSD's,
but this is only my preference,
when it comes to SSD's.

I would also install a NVMe M.2 SSD for the Operating System,
because the motherboard does support this type of SSD.

Like ofnuts has said.
The power supply in a bit of an overkill.
Unless you intend a future upgrade of the graphics card,
to one that is more powerful.
If you're not gaming,
then it doesn't matter.

16GB or RAM is good.
The more memory you can afford,
the better.
Also be sure to utilizes the motherboards dual-channel memory capability.

I also agree with changing the stock CPU cooler,
provided by Intel.
To an after market cooler.
Such as,

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Cryorig H7
Noctua NH-D14
be Quiet! BK019 Dark Rock Pro 3

This would depend on the case and if any of these cooler mentioned above will fit inside the case.
Just about any other cooler except for the provided stock Intel cooler,
would be better.

Issabella · **Posted:** Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:31 am **(#7)**

Thank you so much Wallace, you opinion and advice is very good for me, too.
Thanks you all who have helped me so much on this subject because I'm currently more confident.

I'll do the most possible with your guide to make the order.
Issa.

Wallace · **Posted:** Fri Nov 23, 2018 11:10 am **(#8)**

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Issabella wrote:

Thank you so much Wallace, you opinion and advice is very good for me, too.
Thanks you all who have helped me so much on this subject because I'm currently more confident.

I'll do the most possible with your guide to make the order.
Issa.

I would also like to mention,
that the size of the case.
Will limit it's ability to expand or upgrade some parts.
Such as the cooler and graphics card.
Small cases are nice,
but they also have limitations.

Issabella · **Posted:** Fri Nov 23, 2018 11:15 am **(#9)**

Yes, good mention, Wallace, I'll talk about the case too to know how space I'll have in it. :tyspin

Wallace · **Posted:** Fri Nov 23, 2018 11:20 am **(#10)**

Issabella wrote:

Yes, good mention, Wallace, I'll talk about the case too to know how space I'll have in it. :tyspin

Wallace · **Posted:** Sun Nov 25, 2018 2:46 am **(#11)**

With all that has been said...
If you're purchasing a "pre-built" system.
There will always be cost cutting in the manufacturing of such a systems.
Which usually comes in the form of low quality power supplies,
RAM/memory, motherboards and other components.
With limited support or warranty.
Be very cautious,
when purchasing any type of "pre-built" system.