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 Post subject: Re: Gap not showing up
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:45 am  (#21) 
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This screen show something quite wrong

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now this is not about gap but seems as you moved inside gap the gimp help files or at least the files translating the gimp interface in all possible languages

Even if that should not interfere directly is a sign that somehow you have messed up the gimp structure

I may only repeat my suggestion: stop to search the "right" folder inside gimp for plugin and script, instead create a new folder OUTSIDE gimp and point the installer there (i.e . F:\Document\Gap-plugin,then move the 2 script in F:\Document\Gap-script )and then use gimp preferences to link that folders...more clean ,more easy and no chance to screw up things by moving other folder by mistake.

Anyway screen 2 seems allright, not always Win explorer show file extension (that may be corrected in explorer preferences)
Also 3 seems correct but again is not relevant where you put the plugin files what is relevant is that should be a corrispondent path set in gimp preferences for that location .

So if you put the plugin files in a gimp plugin folder but for some reason that path was deleted from the gimp preferences no plugin would work

On the contrary if you create a plugin folder in the weirdest and most illogical place possible (i really suggest you to NOT place there anything but just to make a example C:\Windows\System32\Gap-plugin) , if that path is added to gimp preferences the plugin will work.

So best is create new dedicated folder in more convenient place ( F:\document\gimp-add-on )as example

To not place files inside gimp avoid also some possible Windows only problem (as locks in Vista and 7 on what is in Program Files preventing user to modify what there )

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 Post subject: Re: Gap not showing up
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:58 am  (#22) 
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Like PC suggests, you really need to look at your GIMP pointers in Edit-Preferences-Folders-Plug-ins to see where the default pointers are pointing to, and make location adjustments for any plug-ins that aren't showing up in GIMP.

But creating a stand-alone folder specifically, as PC suggests, is really the best way to go, because it reduces any chance of mix-ups in the future

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 Post subject: Re: Gap not showing up
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:31 pm  (#23) 
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I did confirm the path in preferences unless there's something I don't know such as which order they should appear in. Are the preferences correct as they are now.

My next step is to do as Photocomix suggested and start over outside of gimp.

Can I delete all those language thingys except english and clean that up? If so show me which ones are supposed to be there.


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 Post subject: Re: Gap not showing up
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:27 pm  (#24) 
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Draconian you should be fine as long as you open Gimp and go to Edit/Pref/select Folders/select plugins
Set a path to that plugin folder if Gimp hasn't already.This is your path according to your image...
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You have to set the path in Preferences.
You have this which needs to be there
F:\Gimp-2.0\lib\gimp\2.0\plugins

but you need to add the new path also.

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 Post subject: Re: Gap not showing up
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:21 pm  (#25) 
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Can I delete all those language thingys except english and clean that up? If so show me which ones are supposed to be there.


None is supposed to be there help files should be in .../share/help the translation file in "locale" no langage file should be included in the gimp plugin directory

A few zelous plugin writers add a langage file and/or even a additional help file to their plugins but that files are supposed to go (in case of correct install ) in the gimp locale or help directory

That seldom happens to windows users (except for the few plugin that come with a installer )but anyway in most of cases that is not a problems (may be a problem only for plugins from developers using a different alphabet as chinese japanise ,russian..but most of times the english interface is clear to all ) and even if by mistake that files ended in the plugin folder nothing happens ,gimp will just ignore them since are not executables

The problem is different using the mousepad ( never happened to me using the mouse) is easy do weird thing to the folders,
without even notice...i believe something similar happened to you when trying to add plugin to the "right" plugin folder inside gimp:
with the mousepad just accidentally touch a folder and then another may have the effect to drag the first INSIDE the second
(much harder do the same by mistake when using a mouse ) if happens with programs folders that may obviously screw up the programs

To the point i will simply delete everything , reinstall, and in the future install add on only in dedicated folders OUTSIDE gimp
that reduce the chances of error almost to 0
And when possible use a real (even cheap) ,mouse instead then the mousepad, mousepad are or not too responsive or overresponsive ,when overresponsible they may run command you never intended to give
(i had one on a HP notebook that interpret hovering a finger a few millimeters ABOVE the pad as a order to drag the active thing whatever it was...it was a nightmare )

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 Post subject: Re: Gap not showing up
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:04 pm  (#26) 
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OOOPSS !!
please in the previous message when i wrote "mousepad" read as if was "touchpad"

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 Post subject: Re: Gap not showing up
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:04 am  (#27) 
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Rod - I finally understood. To be exact and extremely specific...as you indicated when I finally saw the path you showed....I didn't have the "complete" path entered. I fixed it and then I lost all my scripts under filters. I kept messing with it until I got the scripts preferences right an then BAM! Everything works! Eureka!

Photocomix - You have the patience of Job. Rod just filled in the missing piece. My undying gratitude to both of you. I will undoubtedly be posting my first GAP project in the near future.

:tyspin :clap :jumpclap :hi5 :yes :gimp etc., etc., etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Gap not showing up
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:58 pm  (#28) 
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Draconian wrote:
Rod - I finally understood. To be exact and extremely specific...as you indicated when I finally saw the path you showed....I didn't have the "complete" path entered. I fixed it and then I lost all my scripts under filters. I kept messing with it until I got the scripts preferences right an then BAM! Everything works! Eureka!

Photocomix - You have the patience of Job. Rod just filled in the missing piece. My undying gratitude to both of you. I will undoubtedly be posting my first GAP project in the near future.

:tyspin :clap :jumpclap :hi5 :yes :gimp etc., etc., etc.


Can't wait to see it!
May i suggest trying out something simple like Ccbarr's rotating cylinder tutorial?
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2255&p=29374#p29374

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