2.8 for windows is on gimpusers

partha · **Joined:** Mar 14, 2011 **Posts:** 998

Grant_M wrote:

Reinstalled 2.6 and I once again have pressure sensitivity!!
It's so strange that the Gimp team would release 2.8 when there are things broken with it. Weird way of doing things.

It's a GTK+ problem not a Gimp problem. Not much they can do, can they?

partha · **Joined:** Mar 14, 2011 **Posts:** 998

Rod wrote:

I am seeing both libtiff 3 and 5

Rod, You can't be using both within Gimp. Which are you using for your build?

Rod · **Joined:** May 16, 2010 **Posts:** 16136

I am using libtiff-3

Here is a screenshot of my installed gimp-2.8 (developers)

As you can see, both are there.

Grant_M · **Joined:** May 31, 2010 **Posts:** 26

I suppose not. But for folks like me, not versed in programming & stuff like that, (the majority of Gimpers) there should be a warning of the things that will no longer work.

Things like this won't scare me away personally, but for others, it might.

That said, I love the program, and eagerly await the next version which hopefully is released with a working GTK, or whatever magic it is that enables pressure support

partha · **Joined:** Mar 14, 2011 **Posts:** 998

Rod wrote:

I am using libtiff-3

Here is a screenshot of my installed gimp-2.8 (developers)

As you can see, both are there.

Thanks Rod, but I think that Gimp build that you are using is actually running on libtiff-3.dll. Tiff 4.0.x does not work with Gimp and I've not solved that issue. So, I reverted to Tiff 3.9.4. I guess the official version is doing the same.

Rod · **Joined:** May 16, 2010 **Posts:** 16136

Looks like it as i used 3 for my build.
It runs really good (no crashes)
Just a problem with that libintl-8.dll file still.

Someday i will rename all but the one in the gimp/bin folder and create a path to it.
OR
Is it possible to just update the profile file with an export LD_LIBRARIES_PATH: and point to the opt/bin folder for it?

partha · **Joined:** Mar 14, 2011 **Posts:** 998

Rod wrote:

Looks like it as i used 3 for my build.
It runs really good (no crashes)
Just a problem with that libintl-8.dll file still.

Someday i will rename all but the one in the gimp/bin folder and create a path to it.
OR
Is it possible to just update the profile file with an export LD_LIBRARIES_PATH: and point to the opt/bin folder for it?

Depending on the version of gcc you are using, the issue is using the version with gtk and the one with mingw. So, while building Gimp, use the modifier --disable-gtktest. Then while packaging Gimp, use the libintl-8.dll from the gtk/bin directory.

Let me know if that does not work.

Odinbc · **Posted:** Sat May 05, 2012 6:21 pm **(#28)**

Lyle,
I got LabCurves working with 2.8 32bit. I tested, xcf, jpg, png, tif. Are you still having problems?

PhotoComix · **Joined:** Apr 12, 2010 **Posts:** 5870

Grant_M wrote:

I suppose not. But for folks like me, not versed in programming & stuff like that, (the majority of Gimpers) there should be a warning of the things that will no longer work.

Things like this won't scare me away personally, but for others, it might.

That said, I love the program, and eagerly await the next version which hopefully is released with a working GTK, or whatever magic it is that enables pressure support

There is a clear warning in the release note , where is suggested to graphic tablet users to stick with gimp 2.6

Quote:

and eagerly await the next version which hopefully is released with a working GTK, or whatever magic it is that enables pressure support

i must delude you, the fix is planned not before gimp-2.10 (but more luckily gimp 3.0)
That at the current development speed would be 2 or 3 years from now (double for gimp 3.0)

and yes i too think that is very , very bad

As far i understand some tablet will still sort of work but is not guaranteed

Rod · **Joined:** May 16, 2010 **Posts:** 16136

PC you must have faith. :lol

The releases should come much quicker now. especially with most of Gimp ported to GEGL already.
Next will probably be port the rest to GEGL and use GTK-3
That's when everything (old plug-ins), will break.

Rod · **Joined:** May 16, 2010 **Posts:** 16136

I have yet to test my HanWang tablet.

I will test it Sunday and let you know the results. So far my HanWang has worked in all versions.

partha · **Joined:** Mar 14, 2011 **Posts:** 998

Rod wrote:

PC you must have faith. :lol

The releases should come much quicker now. especially with most of Gimp ported to GEGL already.
Next will probably be port the rest to GEGL and use GTK-3
That's when everything (old plug-ins), will break.

This has already started. The goat-invasion branch and the main branch were merged. Now, the main branch is theoretically able to open 16-bit files. I will let you know the state-of-affairs, when I compile the git version.

PhotoComix · **Joined:** Apr 12, 2010 **Posts:** 5870

@Rod

Well my old prevision on the release time of gimp 2.8 was almost exact

In this case i don't understand why to fix a bug in gtk it is needed wait till gimp-3.0 release
but if is so i would not be too optimistic for the time needed

bilbo9955 · **Joined:** Jul 11, 2010 **Posts:** 349

The new version of 2.8 for windows requires a processor with SSE support to install, so it can't be used on older machines.

@Partha
Can you make your build with SSE optional?

partha · **Joined:** Mar 14, 2011 **Posts:** 998

bilbo9955 wrote:

The new version of 2.8 for windows requires a processor with SSE support to install, so it can't be used on older machines.

@Partha
Can you make your build with SSE optional?

I will try. I just finished wrestling with a problem that prevents Gimp from running. So, now I am in a position to get my builds out.

Grant_M · **Joined:** May 31, 2010 **Posts:** 26

@PhotoComix

Well, doggone it! I see that there's a kind of warning now. Thanks for pointing it out

It could be a long time until some of the bugs are ironed out it appears. Is the tablet limitation also present in the Linux version of 2.8?

And I also want to thank you, as well as Rod, Partha and the many others who patch, compile & make scripts for Gimp. I'm grateful for all you all do. Cheers!

Grant_M · **Joined:** May 31, 2010 **Posts:** 26

I should also say, my tablet that locks up gimp while attempting to enable it is a Wacom Intuos4 on Win XP. Just so others who also have a similar setup can know what to expect.

gerard82 · **Posted:** Sun May 06, 2012 5:17 am **(#38)**

Grant_M,
I installed 2.8 on a separate install of Gentoo Linux.
I have a Wacom BambooPT 2FG 4x5 tablet.
My gimp-2.8.0 was installed with the gtk+-2.24.10-r1 library.
As you can see from the screenshot it works ok.

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bilbo9955,
In Gentoo Linux packages (programs) are installed with a script called "ebuild".
I checked the one for gimp-2.8.0 and it had the sse flag set.
However you can disable flags on the command line or in a config. file.
I tried the install command for gimp with the sse flag unset and it didn't complain.
(Of course I used pretend).
This is the "ebuild" for gimp-2.8.0 in Gentoo
It's like a recipe to tell the compiler what to include etc.

Code: Select all

 # Copyright 1999-2012 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/media-gfx/gimp/gimp-2.8.0.ebuild,v 1.3 2012/05/05 07:00:18 jdhore Exp $

EAPI="3"
PYTHON_DEPEND="python? 2:2.5"

inherit versionator autotools eutils gnome2 fdo-mime multilib python

DESCRIPTION="GNU Image Manipulation Program"
HOMEPAGE="http://www.gimp.org/"
SRC_URI="mirror://gimp/v$(get_version_component_range 1-2)/${P}.tar.bz2"
LICENSE="GPL-3 LGPL-3"
SLOT="2"
KEYWORDS="~alpha ~amd64 ~hppa ~ia64 ~ppc ~ppc64 ~sparc ~x86"

IUSE="alsa aalib altivec bzip2 curl dbus debug doc exif gnome gs jpeg jpeg2k lcms mmx mng pdf png python smp sse svg tiff udev webkit wmf xpm"

RDEPEND=">=dev-libs/glib-2.30.2:2
   >=dev-libs/atk-2.2.0
   >=x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.10:2
   >=x11-libs/gdk-pixbuf-2.24.1:2
   >=x11-libs/cairo-1.10.2
   >=x11-libs/pango-1.29.4
   xpm? ( x11-libs/libXpm )
   >=media-libs/freetype-2.1.7
   >=media-libs/fontconfig-2.2.0
   sys-libs/zlib
   dev-libs/libxml2
   dev-libs/libxslt
   x11-misc/xdg-utils
   x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme
   >=media-libs/babl-0.1.10
   >=media-libs/gegl-0.2.0
   aalib? ( media-libs/aalib )
   alsa? ( media-libs/alsa-lib )
   curl? ( net-misc/curl )
   dbus? ( dev-libs/dbus-glib )
   gnome? ( gnome-base/gvfs )
   webkit? ( >=net-libs/webkit-gtk-1.6.1:2 )
   jpeg? ( virtual/jpeg:0 )
   jpeg2k? ( media-libs/jasper )
   exif? ( >=media-libs/libexif-0.6.15 )
   lcms? ( >=media-libs/lcms-1.16:0 )
   mng? ( media-libs/libmng )
   pdf? ( >=app-text/poppler-0.12.4[cairo] )
   png? ( >=media-libs/libpng-1.2.37:0 )
   python?   ( >=dev-python/pygtk-2.10.4:2 )
   tiff? ( >=media-libs/tiff-3.5.7:0 )
   svg? ( >=gnome-base/librsvg-2.34.2:2 )
   wmf? ( >=media-libs/libwmf-0.2.8 )
   x11-libs/libXcursor
   sys-libs/zlib
   bzip2? ( app-arch/bzip2 )
   gs? ( app-text/ghostscript-gpl )
   udev? ( sys-fs/udev[gudev] )"
DEPEND="${RDEPEND}
   sys-apps/findutils
   virtual/pkgconfig
   >=dev-util/intltool-0.40.1
   >=sys-devel/gettext-0.17
   doc? ( >=dev-util/gtk-doc-1 )
   >=sys-devel/libtool-2.2
   >=sys-devel/automake-1.11
   dev-util/gtk-doc-am"  # due to our call to eautoreconf below (bug #386453)

DOCS="AUTHORS ChangeLog* HACKING NEWS README*"

S="${WORKDIR}"/${P}

pkg_setup() {
   G2CONF="--enable-default-binary \
      --with-x \
      $(use_with aalib aa) \
      $(use_with alsa) \
      $(use_enable altivec) \
      $(use_with bzip2) \
      $(use_with curl libcurl) \
      $(use_with dbus) \
      $(use_with gnome gvfs) \
      $(use_with webkit) \
      $(use_with jpeg libjpeg) \
      $(use_with jpeg2k libjasper) \
      $(use_with exif libexif) \
      $(use_with lcms) \
      $(use_with gs) \
      $(use_enable mmx) \
      $(use_with mng libmng) \
      $(use_with pdf poppler) \
      $(use_with png libpng) \
      $(use_enable python) \
      $(use_enable smp mp) \
      $(use_enable sse) \
      $(use_with svg librsvg) \
      $(use_with tiff libtiff) \
      $(use_with udev gudev) \
      $(use_with wmf) \
      --with-xmc \
      $(use_with xpm libxpm) \
      --without-xvfb-run"

   if use python; then
      python_set_active_version 2
      python_pkg_setup
   fi
}

src_prepare() {
   epatch "${FILESDIR}"/${PN}-2.7.4-no-deprecation.patch  # bug 395695, comment 9 and 16
   epatch "${FILESDIR}"/${PN}-2.8.0-bzip2.patch  # bug 414525
   eautoreconf  # If you remove this: remove dev-util/gtk-doc-am from DEPEND, too

   echo '#!/bin/sh' > py-compile
   gnome2_src_prepare
}

src_install() {
   gnome2_src_install

   if use python; then
      python_convert_shebangs -r $(python_get_version) "${ED}"
      python_need_rebuild
   fi

   # Workaround for bug #321111 to give GIMP the least
   # precedence on PDF documents by default
   mv "${D}"/usr/share/applications/{,zzz-}gimp.desktop || die

   find "${D}" -name '*.la' -delete || die
}

pkg_postinst() {
   gnome2_pkg_postinst

   use python && python_mod_optimize /usr/$(get_libdir)/gimp/2.0/python \
      /usr/$(get_libdir)/gimp/2.0/plug-ins
}

pkg_postrm() {
   gnome2_pkg_postrm

   use python && python_mod_cleanup /usr/$(get_libdir)/gimp/2.0/python \
      /usr/$(get_libdir)/gimp/2.0/plug-ins
}
 

Hope this answers some questions.
Gerard.

Grant_M · **Joined:** May 31, 2010 **Posts:** 26

Thanks, Gerard. I might give it a shot on a clean Ubuntu install & test it out. Good info

Grant_M · **Joined:** May 31, 2010 **Posts:** 26

If I can't get it working there, maybe I'll give Gentoo a look too