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 Post subject: Re: McGimp 2.8 - Mac Native Version
PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:48 pm  (#341) 
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I see what you mean. I am not sure why it's happening. I will have to investigate.

In the meantime, I will go ahead and release version 2.8.2.

Moderators: This thread has gotten too long. I hope you don't mind if I start a new thread when I release 2.8.2

Thanks,
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 Post subject: Re: McGimp 2.8 - Mac Native Version
PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:03 pm  (#342) 
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just had a crack at using this myself and had no probs so who knows what goes


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 Post subject: Re: McGimp 2.8 - Mac Native Version
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:51 pm  (#343) 
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Am I correct in understanding that the public release of 2.2 will have the alphabetizing reinstated or will that be added when you get time?


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 Post subject: Re: McGimp 2.8 - Mac Native Version
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:02 pm  (#344) 
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2-ton wrote:
Am I correct in understanding that the public release of 2.2 will have the alphabetizing reinstated or will that be added when you get time?

Yes, it was my mistake 2-ton. The public release will have the sorting correct. Sorry about that.


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 Post subject: Re: McGimp 2.8 - Mac Native Version
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:10 pm  (#345) 
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no need to apologize, you have done so much for us mac users and it is greatly appreciated. I just wanted to make sure it was fixed before I replace.


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 Post subject: Re: McGimp 2.8 - Mac Native Version
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:07 pm  (#346) 
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2-ton wrote:
no need to apologize, you have done so much for us mac users and it is greatly appreciated. I just wanted to make sure it was fixed before I replace.


I totally agree with you 2-ton. Thanks to partha we are loads better off than we were a while back.


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 Post subject: Re: McGimp 2.8 - Mac Native Version
PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:04 am  (#347) 
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I have a few minutes so I tried out this newest version...and have not added my own stuff to it yet. So yay, it's alphabetized now! I also did the save for web thing but did not know what it is supposed to do. What it did was save my picture as a jpg. I'll post it here. So how is this different from just exporting as jpg??? I assume there is some difference or is it just easier (it takes fewer clicks this way)

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 Post subject: Re: McGimp 2.8 - Mac Native Version
PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:49 pm  (#348) 
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yeah, I know, double post, but there another screen shot involved.
Partha, I tried out the Bevel. I am not sure of the settings needed to make this look good, but for this I selected all, then ran bevel with inner bevel and I think 10 for depth and size. It didn't bevel all the way to the edge, and it always goes to the finder menu after I have used the bevel filter...? I click on the workspace and the menu goes right back to the gimp menu. Can I add my extra brushes or shall I wait.

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 Post subject: Re: McGimp 2.8 - Mac Native Version
PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:55 pm  (#349) 
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The left hand and top bevelling is light as opposed to shadow. You could try using brightness/contrast on the bevel layer and play with different layer modes.


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 Post subject: Re: McGimp 2.8 - Mac Native Version
PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:53 pm  (#350) 
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Yeah, bad graphic to try it out on, but you can see that the shadow part does not go 100% to the edge, you can see a thin sliver of the picture on the outer edge. Also, across the top you can see that it has flipped from the gimp menu to the finder menu. This happens each time I use bevel. I believe both of these things need a tweak.


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 Post subject: Re: McGimp 2.8 - Mac Native Version
PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:59 pm  (#351) 
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The finder menu is a Mac thing so I'll stay out of it. Did you adjust the shape curve settings in Bevel? If you did, try again with the default setting.


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 Post subject: Re: McGimp 2.8 - Mac Native Version
PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:03 pm  (#352) 
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no I didn't adjust the curve thing as I wasn't sure what it did. I just adjusted the bevel height and size.

OK, did another one and it all worked perfectly!!!! This has happened before when I first use gimp filters. The first time it works strangely and then after that it works fine. I guess my machine has to let it all settle. Dunno, but the menu stayed with gimp this time, as well as the bevel working fine. I did change the layer mode from hard light to grain merge, it looked better.
OH and i saved it using the web feature. Worked fine.

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 Post subject: Re: McGimp 2.8 - Mac Native Version
PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:06 pm  (#353) 
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well for a start I think save for web saves them in a choice of different formats (jpg, png, etc) and saves them as a smaller file for inclusion on a website if you were building one...and also is a lot quicker than using the export option. Handy also for sending pics via email as it will save to a smaller file without losing too much of the quality of the pic...thats my observation anyway...I was happy also to be able to use the bevel option as it is the .py one we could not see previously and I was happy to be able to use it in that glass tutorial that came about recently.. as shown here

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 Post subject: Re: McGimp 2.8 - Mac Native Version
PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:11 pm  (#354) 
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Well, been away and so missed all the posts. :)

I included bevel because Pauline was having difficulty seeing it in her menus. So, I wanted to make sure that there was nothing wrong with the build before releasing it. Also, looks like Erisian has already responded.

I added "save for web" based on user demand. I have been getting requests for adding it and it's handy for photographers and I think Pauline has already replied about its benefits. :)

2-ton, feel free to add your brushes. I would however, request that you add your plugins/scripts one at a time to see if you have any misbehaving ones. Then we can isolate some of the problems you been having.

Thanks again for testing the new build!!

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 Post subject: Re: McGimp 2.8 - Mac Native Version
PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:36 pm  (#355) 
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2-Ton - I ran the bevel script on a whole canvas using select all and it doesn't go right up to the edges so the problem is with the script itself. It's just a bug that we all have to live with. Works fine on objects within the canvas though. You could perhaps try filling a new layer with grey and fuzzy selecting it to see what happens. It might just be that on objects within the canvas the difference is too small to notice.


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 Post subject: Re: McGimp 2.8 - Mac Native Version
PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:01 pm  (#356) 
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2-ton wrote:
no I didn't adjust the curve thing as I wasn't sure what it did. I just adjusted the bevel height and size.

OK, did another one and it all worked perfectly!!!! This has happened before when I first use gimp filters. The first time it works strangely and then after that it works fine. I guess my machine has to let it all settle. Dunno, but the menu stayed with gimp this time, as well as the bevel working fine. I did change the layer mode from hard light to grain merge, it looked better.
OH and i saved it using the web feature. Worked fine.

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it worked fine on he4rty's glass text tutorial


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 Post subject: Re: McGimp 2.8 - Mac Native Version
PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:21 pm  (#357) 
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Thanks for the explanation, Erisian. It's not really a problem once you know how it behaves. And as Pauline mentioned, it does work fine on the glass script.
Thanks Partha, I will add my brushes, but not so thrilled about having to add scripts one at a time, lol. I have tons of them. I wouldn't mind adding py files one at a time, though. I don't have very many of those.


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 Post subject: Re: McGimp 2.8 - Mac Native Version
PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:40 am  (#358) 
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partha I actually deleted the previous version but didnt delete the folder in the library which contains al the extras such as brushes, scripts, gradients and etc...so the when I installed the new build, it picked them all up anyway...but I am very happy with the way its going...with one exception, and that is with all of these and I probably should have mentioned it previously, and that is it doesnt have a mac theme...I have difficulty reading the dark background so I have at the moment the older looking pc type theme and am managing much better ...I could probably add one myself if I knew where to find one. otherwise...I am very happy with this build. Thank you once again.


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 Post subject: Re: McGimp 2.8 - Mac Native Version
PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:41 am  (#359) 
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2-ton wrote:
Thanks for the explanation, Erisian. It's not really a problem once you know how it behaves. And as Pauline mentioned, it does work fine on the glass script.
Thanks Partha, I will add my brushes, but not so thrilled about having to add scripts one at a time, lol. I have tons of them. I wouldn't mind adding py files one at a time, though. I don't have very many of those.


That should be fine I think. The point was that you were having issues and since I don't know what was being added, I would have a hard time figuring out any issues. :)


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 Post subject: Re: McGimp 2.8 - Mac Native Version
PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:48 am  (#360) 
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akky wrote:
partha I actually deleted the previous version but didnt delete the folder in the library which contains al the extras such as brushes, scripts, gradients and etc...so the when I installed the new build, it picked them all up anyway...but I am very happy with the way its going...with one exception, and that is with all of these and I probably should have mentioned it previously, and that is it doesnt have a mac theme...I have difficulty reading the dark background so I have at the moment the older looking pc type theme and am managing much better ...I could probably add one myself if I knew where to find one. otherwise...I am very happy with this build. Thank you once again.

Pauline,

The theme is extremely conducive to photography since it allows you to modify your image without the application adding it's color scheme. You will notice that applications such as Photoshop, Paint Shop Pro have similar themes.

However, there are 2 additional themes that you can switch to. Go into Preferences and select the Gimp-2.8 Default or small.

You can also add any theme you want as long as it does not require any theme engine beyond that I have included. Simply pick a theme from gnome-looks.org, added it to your local themes folder an change as above. So any standard theme should work automatically.

Hope this helps and let me know if you have any questions.


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